West Ham V Liverpool 4 pm

Jayob10

Fowler87 wrote: »

I think another reason he's playing them is to raise whatever price we might get in January. Unfortunately its looking less and less every game we play. Its a mystery why Assaidi hasn't featured that much though

This is also very true. Its a sad state of affairs, but it an obvious ploy to put make Cole visible to potential suitors. If the West Ham's or QPR's see him getting game time in the league they may be willing to cover his pay off to take him off our hands.

I don't for one second think Rodgers sees Downing as part of his long term plans, but banishing him to the under 21s doesn't make it easy to flog him.

murpho999

mav79 wrote: »

The subs bench is a disgrace, we have young players coming through the ranks that would bust a gut to play in the first team, the likes of pacheco and robinson should have been travelling with the squad.

Pacheco has had several chances and failed!

5starpool

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

'Mystery'? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Assaidi is probably not very good.

Don't be silly. He was excellent in one game in the Europa league or league cup, whichever one it was. What more proof do you want? His other inconsequential performances are irrelevant to the point.

mav79

He hasn't been given a chance this year and is playing great for the u21's.

5starpool

murpho999 wrote: »

Pacheco has had several chances and failed!

He's had far less chances than Cole and done far better on average. Makes no sense having that muppet on the pitch.

LuckyLloyd

5starpool wrote: »

Don't be silly. He was excellent in one game in the Europa league or league cup, whichever one it was. What more proof do you want? His other inconsequential performances are irrelevant to the point.

Grayditch

Morgan wouldn't score in this game.

Mr Alan

mike65 wrote: »

It is noted how quickly you are on this thread with Liverpool losing and the game only half over!

I post at half time cause I don't generally post during matches Mike. But it's noted how quickly you pounce on someone pointing out the blatantly obvious.

DDC1990

murpho999 wrote: »

Pacheco has had several chances and failed!

Pacheco has never had a solid run in the first team.

He's never got a opportunity like Sterling or Suso have got this year.

Fúck Henderson, Cole and Downing have had a better run in the first team.

But for some people a game or 2 in the Europa League and against Northampton is "enough of a chance".

murpho999

5starpool wrote: »

Don't be silly. He was excellent in one game in the Europa league or league cup, whichever one it was. What more proof do you want? His other inconsequential performances are irrelevant to the point.

Can you not let the manager manage, he seems him in training we don't .

One Europa League match is not good enough.

kingshankly

45 minutes ago we were brilliant and doing real well now were a disgrace and everyone should be sold
There's being fickle but this is a new level

Kess73

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

'Mystery'? The simplest explanation is usually the correct one. Assaidi is probably not very good.

Bollocks. What explains the likes of Cole and Downing being on the pitch then? The simplest answer is to say they are better than every other option we had available for today. Is that your take?

Do you really think that Cole has shown more this season in the games he got than what Assaidi has shown in the games he got?

Any player who can run for 100 metres without passing out is already a step above Cole.

The simple answer for me is that Rodgers cocked up by putting two sub par players in Downing and Cole into today's match squad.

el dude

Mr Alan wrote: »

Yet anyone who dares point out this will likely be harassed & ridiculed on the super thread.

Because pointing out stuff like that is about as irrelevant and facile as it gets. There's never a pint behind it other than "NOT.GOOD.ENOUGH"

FlawedGenius

What a win for Everton the peoples club is taking over.

kingshankly

Sterling has been awful

LuckyLloyd

Kess73 wrote: »

Bollocks. What explains the likes of Cole and Downing being on the pitch then? The simplest answer is to say they are better than every other option we had available for today. Is that your take?

Do you really think that Cole has shown more this season in the games he got than what Assaidi has shown in the games he got?

Any player who can run for 100 metres without passing out is already a step above Cole.

The simple answer for me is that Rodgers cocked up by putting two sub par players in Downing and Cole into today's match squad.

If Assaidi was who you thought he was he'd have more games at this stage. You think Rodgers is deliberately not selecting the best options to try and sell people on or whatever? I'm not buying it.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Any secodn half subs? Stream went down and BBC ar stil lrporting the score as 1 1

LuckyLloyd

kingshankly wrote: »

Sterling has been awful

Needs a rest!!

5starpool

murpho999 wrote: »

Can you not let the manager manage, he seems him in training we don't .

One Europe League match is not good enough.

I don't understand what your last line means. One Europa League match is not good enough for who or what?

If Rodgers plays Cole and Downing then I will criticise him. They are not near good enough for Liverpool. If the manager continues to make decisions like that when picking teams he won't have the luxury of being able to make the decision for much longer I'd say.

Kess73

murpho999 wrote: »

Pacheco has had several chances and failed!

Yeah that's right he did not light up the place when he got a few games at 18 and 19 so he must be crap.

he got 7 games at 18 (most from the bench)

He got 7 games at 19 (most from the bench) under Hodgson.


How many chances have the likes of Cole, Downing, and the other overpaid underperformers gotten?

double GG

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Needs a rest!!

Badly! Seems to have played every game this season.

LuckyLloyd

Have to say, really like how West Ham play. Solid no bull**** football. Very difficult to play against.

5starpool

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Have to say, really like how West Ham play. Solid no bull**** football. Very difficult to play against.

Big Sam for Liverpool?

*shudder*

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Hve there been any second half substitutions?

double GG

Jarvis :pac:

jethro081

rogers needs to do something. that pile of crap on the field is his fcking fault so he'd better get a shovel and sort it out.

such a frustrating shower to watch sometimes.

mark renton

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Have to say, really like how West Ham play. Solid no bull**** football. Very difficult to play against.

yea, very effective - so far they have an og and a ridiculous penalty :rolleyes:

Grayditch

john47832 wrote: »

yea, very effective - so far they have an og and a ridiculous penalty :rolleyes:

Don't be silly, they've bossed Liverpool with raw power.

el dude

I wonder if Jaskelainen will have to make a save for the rest of the game?

Get Morgan on, can't do any harm.

Kess73

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

If Assaidi was who you thought he was he'd have more games at this stage. You think Rodgers is deliberately not selecting the best options to try and sell people on or whatever? I'm not buying it.

I think Rodgers is trying to play rubbish players in order to sell them? You really don't seem to be able to read all that well fella, because I said the opposite to that just a few posts back.;)

What I think is that Rodgers seems to have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to some of the poor players that Kenny and Hodgson inflicted on the team, and if Assaidi turns out to be a flop, well he only cost £2.3m which is not much compared to the tens of millions that were wasted on poor players in recent transfer windows.

murpho999

Kess73 wrote: »

Yeah that's right he did not light up the place when he got a few games at 18 and 19 so he must be crap.

he got 7 games at 18 (most from the bench)

He got 7 games at 19 (most from the bench) under Hodgson.


How many chances have the likes of Cole, Downing, and the other overpaid underperformers gotten?

Kess,, I'm not arguing with you.

Cole and Downing should not be in the squad,but t doesn't mean that Pacheco should either.

The only thing I can think of is that BR wants some experience in the team rather than all young lads.

Turtyturd

This is dire.

Nuri Sahin

Good to see Flah about.

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Grayditch

Stewart Groaning...



I'll get me coat.

Kess73

john47832 wrote: »

yea, very effective - so far they have an og and a ridiculous penalty :rolleyes:

If they get the three points, then that's all that will matter though.

double GG

john47832 wrote: »

yea, very effective - so far they have an og and a ridiculous penalty :rolleyes:

And 22 points before today on a very limited budget. His teams are very effective. Hard to break down and difficult to beat. And yes 2-1 up today.

klose

Well be lucky to lose by 1

doc_17

The more I see of Allen the surer I am that he is average. Swansea weren't gonna sell us any of their players for a year remember? Unless they deemed it in their own interests? £15 mil for Joe seems to be in their interests.

mike65

Grayditch wrote: »

Morgan wouldn't score in this game.

he wouldn't necessarily need to, what's needed is a way out, that's what strikers provide someone to take the ball and allow the team to get out of their own defence zone.

Turtyturd

FlawedGenius wrote: »

Allen is a very average player gets caught in posession so much Brendas first of many bad signings imo.

You can do better.

LuckyLloyd

Kess73 wrote: »

I think Rodgers is trying to play rubbish players in order to sell them? You really don't seem to be able to read all that well fella, because I said the opposite to that just a few posts back.;)

What I think is that Rodgers seems to have a bit of a blind spot when it comes to some of the poor players that Kenny and Hodgson inflicted on the team, and if Assaidi turns out to be a flop, well he only cost £2.3m which is not much compared to the tens of millions that were wasted on poor players in recent transfer windows.

Look, Assaidi is not an expensive resource but if he can't do better than Cole or Downing he's, well, useless to what the club should be trying to achieve.

Melion

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Look, Assaidi is not an expensive resource but if he can't do better than Cole or Downing he's, well, useless to what the club should be trying to achieve.

Do you really think that Cole and Downing bring more to a Liverpool team than Assaidi would?

FlawedGenius

Turtyturd wrote: »

You can do better.

And so could u probably I really dont rate him as a manager at all. Chancer!

Bowlardo

just started watching the second half...is joe allen having another mare?

is there any point of having him on the pitch in one of these matches where it is going to get v physical in the middle of the park

Mr.Crinklewood

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Needs a rest!!

Wrong sport.

LuckyLloyd

john47832 wrote: »

yea, very effective - so far they have an og and a ridiculous penalty :rolleyes:

They are value for their lead. And on a general level, they are an example of a team maximizing the resources available to them through playing honest football. We good learn from them.

Turtyturd

doc_17 wrote: »

The more I see of Allen the surer I am that he is average. Swansea weren't gonna sell us any of their players for a year remember? Unless they deemed it in their own interests? £15 mil for Joe seems to be in their interests.

He has regressed a lot, started his first few games brilliantly but has been brutal in the last few. He is the Welsh Xavi according to 'The Rodgers' so we can get an Irish/Scottish Iniesta to go alongside him and The English Messi we should be good.

niallo27

This is ****en pathetic, unforgiveable by rodgers to bring on cole. Liverpool are turning into a joke of a club.

LuckyLloyd

Melion wrote: »

Do you really think that Cole and Downing bring more to a Liverpool team than Assaidi would?

What reason is there to think otherwise?