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Petrol leak

  • 11-12-2012 3:39pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭


    It was -1.5 this morning so I decided not to risk the bike and took the morning off. Anyway I starting up the super-four when I noticed a leak, just at the tube that connects to the On/Off switch. Anyway I hope it is just a matter of pushing it back on.

    However, I was wondering if I hadn't copped it would the engine have got hot enough to start a fire, as it was pissing out on it.

    Good job I have the PX as a back up.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    That line split on my CB400, petrol was pissing all over the engine for at least a week, no fire though so it was all good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    happened on my cbr20 wheni had it.
    those old rubber fuel lines perish over the eyars. i just went to motor factors, bought the same tubing and replaced it. half hour job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Odysseus wrote: »
    It was -1.5 this morning so I decided not to risk the bike and took the morning off. Anyway I starting up the super-four when I noticed a leak, just at the tube that connects to the On/Off switch. Anyway I hope it is just a matter of pushing it back on.

    However, I was wondering if I hadn't copped it would the engine have got hot enough to start a fire, as it was pissing out on it.

    Good job I have the PX as a back up.

    Heat doesn't ignite petrol, though it does make it easier to ignite by releasing more fumes, only an external flame/spark can ignite the fumes. It doesn't mater if the engine is hot or cold, any stray spark will ignite it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭KamiKazi


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Heat doesn't ignite petrol, though it does make it easier to ignite by releasing more fumes, only an external flame/spark can ignite the fumes. It doesn't mater if the engine is hot or cold, any stray spark will ignite it.

    Heat will ignite petrol, but only at seriously high temperatures:
    Gasoline (Petrol): 246–280 °C (475–536 °F)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoignition_temperature

    Maybe exhaust headers could get up to that temperature? Don't know what else would on a bike TBH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,307 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    Use a lit match to find out where the leak is coming from.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    KamiKazi wrote: »
    Heat will ignite petrol, but only at seriously high temperatures:



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoignition_temperature

    Maybe exhaust headers could get up to that temperature? Don't know what else would on a bike TBH.


    Isn't that usually why they keep the fuel pipes away from the headers on bikes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,907 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    Saw a Triumph go up in flames and burn down to a puddle of alloy when it backfired through the carb and ignited.
    Took a local guy with a powder extinguisher to put it out.
    Hard to fit an extinguisher on a bike though.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 YCHGTBOY


    A mobile phone in your pocket could possibly ignite the fumes....or any bad electrical connection on the bike could arc and do the same. Any petrol leak... no matter how small.... should always be repaired immediately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    YCHGTBOY wrote: »
    A mobile phone in your pocket could possibly ignite the fumes....or any bad electrical connection on the bike could arc and do the same. Any petrol leak... no matter how small.... should always be repaired immediately.

    Mobile phone is a myth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 YCHGTBOY


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Mobile phone is a myth

    Ok ...a a possible myth I agree on...but do you agree there is the possibility of some other electrical fault or static capable of igniting fumes?:confused:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Del2005 wrote: »

    Mobile phone is a myth

    Not a myth but easier for static to build up and spark from the old phones with thin wirey aerials.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,411 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Scrap the cap!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    YCHGTBOY wrote: »
    Ok ...a a possible myth I agree on...but do you agree there is the possibility of some other electrical fault or static capable of igniting fumes?:confused:

    Yes, it is possible for static or an electrical fault to ignite fumes.

    The only way a mobile can possibly ignite fumes is when they are under pressure when filling the tank and you'd have to have the phone right beside the nozzle, in normal circumstances a phone won't ignite petrol fumes.


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