New Skoda Octavia revealed

colm_mcm

Estate looks great, those lines around the number plate on the hatch are all wrong.

R.O.R

vectra wrote: »

I think I just found my next car :eek:

Drove one a few weeks ago. Engine pulls all the way to 4,500rpm rather than dying off around 3.5k.

Was a fairly damp day and you had to provoke wheelspin in 2nd - old model would have been spinning in 3rd in that type of weather.

My colleague drove it first with me in the passenger seat. His reaction was "**** me, that's proper quick". He drives a MKV GTi.

MuppetCheck

About time they sorted the wheelspin. Becomes tiring...and expensive...

yop

I am beginning to like them now, took a while
Few here robbed off another site

spank_inferno

Sat in one at the ploughing championchip stand.
Really nice feel to them, the interior was lovely.

White would be my colour of choice,

If we ever tire of our yeti, we will replace it with this.

jca

Sorry guys but I think the new Octavia is horrible in all its guises. It looks too much like the rapid and that 1.6 diesel is a gutless load of junk. Think I'll drive a bit longer in my '07 1.9 TDI.

kindalen

Really like the vrs, next car in few years time....

Gael23

I was disappointed with it too. Its just too big for that market and priced towards bigger cars too.
My grandad was all set to buy one until he saw the physical size of it so went away and bought a Golf for very similar money

spank_inferno

jca wrote: »

Sorry guys but I think the new Octavia is horrible in all its guises. It looks too much like the rapid and that 1.6 diesel is a gutless load of junk. Think I'll drive a bit longer in my '07 1.9 TDI.

Well, the similarity in appearence is no accident.

They have made the front of the facelifted Yeti & Superb look like this too.

Personally I like the mk3 octavia, though it looks its best in its Vrs guise.

Also, any of the 2ltr engine variants is better than the old 1.9!

jca

spank_inferno wrote: »

Well, the similarity in appearence is no accident.

They have made the front of the facelifted Yeti & Superb look like this too.

Personally I like the mk3 octavia, though it looks its best in its Vrs guise.

Also, any of the 2ltr engine variants is better than the old 1.9!

By no stretch of the imagination can the Yeti and the Superb be mistaken for each other. I like the similar front theme that they started years ago but when you have to drive right up to the back of the car to see if its a Rapid or an Octavia which in build quality terms are poles apart I think they've made a mess of it.
The Vrs isn't everyones cup of tea,it's very hard sprung for the crappy Wexford back roads for starters and a bit scaldy on the price front too.
The 2 Ltr has plenty of problems, between oil pump drives wearing away,balancer shaft drive chains/sprockets self destructing, egr valves etc. Nah thinks I'll stick with me aul tractor 1.9,rough as a bears a**e but with decent servicing a solid flywheel conversion it should serve me well.

Jesus.

ryanf1 wrote: »

I was disappointed with it too. Its just too big for that market and priced towards bigger cars too. My grandad was all set to buy one until he saw the physical size of it so went away and bought a Golf for very similar money

I don't really get that to be honest. People seem to like to drive small cars in this Country for some reason. I think the new Octy is a nice size, not a big car by any means. Golf is too small.

yop

jca wrote: »

By no stretch of the imagination can the Yeti and the Superb be mistaken for each other. I like the similar front theme that they started years ago but when you have to drive right up to the back of the car to see if its a Rapid or an Octavia which in build quality terms are poles apart I think they've made a mess of it.
The Vrs isn't everyones cup of tea,it's very hard sprung for the crappy Wexford back roads for starters and a bit scaldy on the price front too.
The 2 Ltr has plenty of problems, between oil pump drives wearing away,balancer shaft drive chains/sprockets self destructing, egr valves etc. Nah thinks I'll stick with me aul tractor 1.9,rough as a bears a**e but with decent servicing a solid flywheel conversion it should serve me well.

I drive the VRS daily on crappy Mayo roads and the drive is a lot better than it was in either ST or the MPS I had.
Am sure the 1.9 will enjoy the view of the arse of the VRS

jca

yop wrote: »

I drive the VRS daily on crappy Mayo roads and the drive is a lot better than it was in either ST or the MPS I had.
Am sure the 1.9 will enjoy the view of the arse of the VRS

Pretty crappy arse.... Nicer tail on the aul 1.9 when the oil pump stops pumping in that fragile 2.0;)

yop

jca wrote: »

Pretty crappy arse.... Nicer tail on the aul 1.9 when the oil pump stops pumping in that fragile 2.0;)

lol, ya been passed by plenty of 1.9 tractors over the years, while in parking spot.

jca

yop wrote: »

lol, ya been passed by plenty of 1.9 tractors over the years, while in parking spot.

Waiting for the breakdown lorry. ... Ha ha.

yop

jca wrote: »

Waiting for the breakdown lorry. ... Ha ha.

Afraid not no, waiting for them to catch up then only 1.9 tractors in the rear mirror. Its a lovely sight though. Its nice to see them try, God does love a trier. Chugging along, maybe someday they will get a right car

vectra

jca wrote: »

Pretty crappy arse.... Nicer tail on the aul 1.9 when the oil pump stops pumping in that fragile 2.0

Explain?
First I heard about it happening and I am on my third vRS.

pippip

vectra wrote: »

Explain?
First I heard about it happening and I am on my third vRS.

Yeh but yours are all f*%king brand new you lucky bast£$d :pac::D

MuppetCheck

I didnt realize the 2 litres on the Golf chassis had oil pump problems.................

yop

pippip wrote: »

Yeh but yours are all f*%king brand new you lucky bast£$d :pac::D

Thats true, but any car which is 4+ years is going to experience issues once they get the miles up

R.O.R

One dissapointment on the new vRS is that the seats aren't as good as they look.

Appearance isn't far off proper RS seats in an Audi, but they are nowhere near as supportive or "huggable" as the GTi. Not terrible seats at all, but they promise more than they deliver.

yop

R.O.R wrote: »

One dissapointment on the new vRS is that the seats aren't as good as they look.

Appearance isn't far off proper RS seats in an Audi, but they are nowhere near as supportive or "huggable" as the GTi. Not terrible seats at all, but they promise more than they deliver.

Have you been in one ROR? Only seen one from the outside myself. Seats aren't mighty in the MK11 in fairness either.

vectra

R.O.R wrote: »

One dissapointment on the new vRS is that the seats aren't as good as they look.

Appearance isn't far off proper RS seats in an Audi, but they are nowhere near as supportive or "huggable" as the GTi. Not terrible seats at all, but they promise more than they deliver.

That is one concern I had as well.
Sat in one but was not switched on with the seats. Even the look of them do not appear to be very good quality.
Maybe I am wrong.

@ pippip

Yes mine are all brand new.
But you do realise I sell them when I am changing, Not crush them
As such the new owners happily clock up more miles trouble free.

As Muppercheck said.
I am almost certain you are confused as there was an era where the 2.0 did give oiling issues but it certainly was not in the Skoda garage,

R.O.R

yop wrote: »

Have you been in one ROR? Only seen one from the outside myself. Seats aren't mighty in the MK11 in fairness either.

Had Pilsen's Red one out to a driver for an overnight test drive, so me and my colleague took it for a blast before they came to collect.

Big improvement in how the power is delivered, and in how it gets the power on to the road.

yop

R.O.R wrote: »

Had Pilsen's Red one out to a driver for an overnight test drive, so me and my colleague took it for a blast before they came to collect.

Big improvement in how the power is delivered, and in how it gets the power on to the road.

An overnight test? V nice.

jca

vectra wrote: »

That is one concern I had as well.
Sat in one but was not switched on with the seats. Even the look of them do not appear to be very good quality.
Maybe I am wrong.

@ pippip

Yes mine are all brand new.
But you do realise I sell them when I am changing, Not crush them
As such the new owners happily clock up more miles trouble free.

As Muppercheck said.
I am almost certain you are confused as there was an era where the 2.0 did give oiling issues but it certainly was not in the Skoda garage,

Very same engine. They don't make special engines for the skodas. Don't get me started about the lovely six speed gearbox. .... My independent Skoda mechanic has 3 languishing in his garage awaiting their final journey to Hammond Lane. All from the lovely Vrs.... He hates the Vrs with a passion.

spank_inferno

What is failing with the 6sp gearbox?

This gearbox is now very common across the VAG cars.

jca

spank_inferno wrote: »

What is failing with the 6sp gearbox?

This gearbox is now very common across the VAG cars.

He was telling me that a bearing in the differential fails and the box quickly self destructs after that. He was busy at the time and didn't have much time for chit chat. He did say it was more common if bog racers got them chipped for more smoke, more poke.

yop

jca wrote: »

He was telling me that a bearing in the differential fails and the box quickly self destructs after that. He was busy at the time and didn't have much time for chit chat. He did say it was more common if bog racers got them chipped for more smoke, more poke.

lol, so one mechanic tells you that they are bad and you believe it as bible.
More like he wanted to get rid of you out of the place.

The last statement reveals a lot though, german number plates per chance?

jca

yop wrote: »

lol, so one mechanic tells you that they are bad and you believe it as bible.
More like he wanted to get rid of you out of the place.

The last statement reveals a lot though, german number plates per chance?

How do you know that? Were you there mr smart arse? The man works on skoda/ vw 5 days a week, so yes I do believe him. Yes you're right he did want he out of the place because I was giving him a lift to pick up parts after getting my timing belt done.

yop

jca wrote: »

How do you know that? Were you there mr smart arse? The man works on skoda/ vw 5 days a week, so yes I do believe him. Yes you're right he did want he out of the place because I was giving him a lift to pick up parts after getting my timing belt done.

As said already, your the 1st to point it out and I know lads with VRS's for the last 6 years without an issue. Fine car each one of them, great on the road and good economy and performance. No tractor though.

Did he ask you to pick up a glass hammer too?

jca

yop wrote: »

As said already, your the 1st to point it out and I know lads with VRS's for the last 6 years without an issue. Fine car each one of them, great on the road and good economy and performance. No tractor though.

Did he ask you to pick up a glass hammer too?

Jesus you've a right attitude on ya! I don't think I'm the first to highlight vw 6 speed gearbox problems and certainly not the first to mention the 2ltr engine woes.

yop

jca wrote: »

Jesus you've a right attitude on ya! I don't think I'm the first to highlight vw 6 speed gearbox problems and certainly not the first to mention the 2ltr engine woes.

I have an attitude yes, to tractor drives in my rear mirror
Yes plenty of cars with gear box issues and engine woes, make and model wide.

Plenty on here have the car and/or the engine and gearbox without issue, there probably lads who have had issues but we haven't heard from them, only heresay.
Anyway, prefer to have this 2 litre and 6 speed sitting outside the door than a tractor.

vectra

jca wrote: »

Very same engine. They don't make special engines for the skodas. Don't get me started about the lovely six speed gearbox. .... My independent Skoda mechanic has 3 languishing in his garage awaiting their final journey to Hammond Lane. All from the lovely Vrs.... He hates the Vrs with a passion.

Nobody said anything about special engines.

My advice is go do some reading before you dig a very big hole for yourself and make yourself look silly.

Please read up about the early Audi 2.0 140bhp engines in particular.

Better still. Ask your Expert mechanic.

yop

vectra wrote: »

Nobody said anything about special engines.

My advice is go do some reading before you dig a very big hole for yourself and make yourself look silly.

Please read up about the early Audi 2.0 140bhp engines in particular.

Better still. Ask your Expert mechanic.

He drives a 1.9, he doesn't drive issue filled engines. Only bog drivers like you Vectra have a 2 litre.

jca

yop wrote: »

He drives a 1.9, he doesn't drive issue filled engines. Only bog drivers like you Vectra have a 2 litre.

Bog racer. Try driving a proper performance car not a warmed over everyday runabout. That's all the Vrs is really.

yop

jca wrote: »

Bog racer. Try driving a proper performance car not a warmed over everyday runabout. That's all the Vrs is really.

lol, ah now don't be like that. Giving out to yourself for driving a 1.9 diesel isn't fair on yourself.

We were waiting for that response, it took a while, but its the usual rhetoric.
I'm surprised you haven't laid down a challenge to the VRS community for a race yet

If you find anyone who thinks that a VRS is a performance car let us know, I'm sure you will find they don't.

You'd want to keep out of them bogs, you'll ruin that german plate and pack up that double welded on suitcase holder with turf.

Anyway, we are gone off topic long enough talking about bog racers in 1.9 TDI's.

See you in the rear mirror.

Flaccus

I drive a vRS 2.0 TFSI. It's far from a performance car, and I regret having the petrol version now over the crap fuel economy not helped by the fact when I bought it back in 07, the 1st thing I did was chip the thing and make a few changes. So I suppose 260bhp isn't bad at all and it overtakes handily enough when I need it to. I had a 02 1.8 vRS before that, and it was more of the same.

In my book the vRS is a reasonably fast mid sized 2 litre, nothing more. Its build quality and fit and finish is decent (though not up to the standard of the golf gti), and its got a roomy boot, and came with lots of extras which were not standard on the UK model at the time. The petrol engine does sound like a bit of a tractor and always has, it drinks oil, and I guess the only problems I had with it were a faulty charcoal fuel filter setting off the engine management light due to poor intake on idle being detected, and the clutch, slave cylinder and dmf needed replacing after 6 years and there was only 55k miles up at the time (clutch kept sticking to floor, and dmf was flopping around the place).

It's got 60k miles up on it now, has gone through one set of brake pads, on it's 3rd set of tires, and will likely get the timing belt done (though according to Skoda Ireland and my manual it's not needed until just over 100k miles). No other parts have ever been bought for it, and it gets an oil change every 7 or 8k miles. It manages 26mpg max around town and up to 35-39mpg limerick to cork weekdays.

As much as I like the new shape vRS I probably wouldn't buy one again if I was looking for something even moderatly fast, at least not the petrol version. The gearbox is notchy and just too much work. My Alfa 156 2 litre before it, while not as quick and ultimately unreliable was a much nicer car to drive. Something more comfortable and better built is what I want. I'm tempted to try a 5 series this time round.

spank_inferno

Good post... & of course the 5 series is much better, but they are not the same class of car.

Flaccus

I still can't believe I bought the vRS new back in 07 when they were over 30k. My vRS before that was new too and I kept it 5 years. I think a golf gti with the same spec was well over the 40k mark so I thought I was getting a good deal. Of course the mistake was buying new in the 1st place. Would never do that again. Seriously considering an 08 520d now. Maybe even an s80. Definitely need to move up a couple of classes even if it means buying an older model.

galwaytt

spank_inferno wrote: »

... & of course the 5 series is much better, but they are not the same class of car.

"of course " its better ?? .... dunno about that. Being swish and comfy whilst paranoid about crankshafts, timing chains, turbos, swirl flaps etc etc is hardly "better. .."

Gumbo

galwaytt wrote: »

"of course " its better ?? .... dunno about that. Being swish and comfy whilst paranoid about crankshafts, timing chains, turbos, swirl flaps etc etc is hardly "better. .."

Depends what 5 series.

cadaliac

Flaccus wrote: »

I still can't believe I bought the vRS new back in 07 when they were over 30k. My vRS before that was new too and I kept it 5 years. I think a golf gti with the same spec was well over the 40k mark so I thought I was getting a good deal. Of course the mistake was buying new in the 1st place. Would never do that again. Seriously considering an 08 520d now. Maybe even an s80. Definitely need to move up a couple of classes even if it means buying an older model.

520d is not without its issues either. Timing chain afaik.
Anyway, for the record, I had a 6 speed piss hat and had to change the box at 64,000 miles. It was a b5.5 though, although I'm sure the box didn't change that much. Main bearing was the culprit. I am not alone when it comes to piss poor VAG 6 speed boxes.

yop

galwaytt wrote: »

"of course " its better ?? .... dunno about that. Being swish and comfy whilst paranoid about crankshafts, timing chains, turbos, swirl flaps etc etc is hardly "better. .."

Brother in law has a 2008 520D and its the bane of his life, but for the BMW warranty he got on it when he bought it I think he said he would be looking at 5k worth of work done to it. So when things go wrong, have a deep pocket.