Black People Feel Most Discriminated against

Tombi!

Marsden wrote: »

This seemed like another myth about the welfare system but I recently spoke to a welfare officer who verified it. Initiatives like that don't do anything to help intigration, they just p1ss of people that hear about it and stir the pot.

I really can't imagine that happening.

Are you sure it was someone who would be dealing with those types of situations that you spoke to?

I'm not calling you a liar or anything but... they really had to of been telling some lies to get a check like that.

nlgbbbblth

FTA69 wrote: »

Absolute shower of nonsense. This never happened. I've heard this story from Cork to Donegal and it's always "a mate" or "my cousin." It's a pack of lies, and more the fool you for believing it.

Urban myth. Being doing the rounds for years. "Fool" is being polite.

Gabriele

Gabriele wrote: »

For the same reasons a lot of EU citizens are here, multinational companies have their headquarter in ireland, and they require multilingual skills... that's all, if it wasn't for a job, I would be in another place. Anyway, Europe is not much better, and that's true, my point is that Ireland isn't this open minded paradise neither

If that's your attitude, I'm not surprised you don't feel welcome. Nothing got my back up more in Ireland than foreigners moaning about it. It really is incredibly rude to go to another country and tell the locals all the things you hate about it. I currently live in Spain and sure, lots of things bother me, but I'm not going to tell my Spanish friends all the things I don't like about their country. I decided to live here, I'm a guest here and I'm grateful that there's plenty of work here in my field, unlike back in Ireland. Have some basic manners, FFS, stop looking down on the country that's providing you with a job and people might be a bit nicer to you and you might enjoy it more.

Saruman

Korvanica wrote: »

A guy I know works in a car dealers and 2 black guys came in and were looking at a 2nd hand car. Were told the price and went off. Came back a while later with a cheque from the welfare office (about €2000) for the car. When asked how they got it they laughed and said "We went in and told welfare we were experiencing racism on the bus and wanted our own car". Boom free cheque.

Discriminated against ? I'm not racist but **** me these guys deserve it. and anyone else who does crap like this.

Really? You hear one anecdotal story of welfare fraud and the alleged perpetrators deserve to be racially abused?
What about the thousands, or at the very least hundreds of white Irish that defraud the state every week? Many not even living in the country, they live in Spain and only come back if they need to present themselves or proof of jobseeking etc.


I take people as they are regardless of skin colour.

That's not to say I would not be selective in where I was moving for instance. I would be very unlikely to move to the US and live in a 90% black neighbourhood. Only because that's likely to be a ghetto and full of crime, even if only a minority of that neighbourhood are criminals.

In the same way I would not move to certain areas in Dublin that are full of white Irish people because there is enough crime there to make me wary.

Race means nothing, in fact I wish it would stop being used. People are people. Take them on their own merits and not what colour their skin is.

FTA69

Look, at the end of the day there is a lot of racism in Irish society. The fact we don't have a far-right political movement doesn't mean much either (the Irish political system is the only one in Europe with no proper divide between left and right as it stands). As someone said earlier, political fascism and societal racism are two different things. That having been said, we aren't a million times worse than the rest of Europe either, even progressive places like Scandinavia have endemic racism showed toward Muslim immigrants or the indigenous Sami people etc. Even the UK has a racist strain going through it, and you'll find it gets a lot more pronounced when you get out of the multicultural areas.

The whole "Ireland welcomes everyone regardless" lark doesn't always ring true all of the time, but it isn't apartheid South Africa by any stretch of the imagination.

gallag

Seaneh wrote: »

lol. classic forward thinking free prysby nothern loyalist attuide there.

Agnostic unionist. I suppose in your feeble racist mind anyone who does not want a united Ireland is a free Presbyterian loyalist ffs.

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Ush1

Recruitment and the workplace were the highest percentages. I'd be interested to see the actual details of the discrimination and if legal charges were brought against people.

Feeling discrimination isn't always the same as actually be discriminated against.

Marsden

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

I really can't imagine that happening.

Are you sure it was someone who would be dealing with those types of situations that you spoke to?

I'm not calling you a liar or anything but... they really had to of been telling some lies to get a check like that.

Local welfare officer told my wife, I couldn't belive it either. I had always put it down as BS that some clown made up along with the extra dole money for socializing but apparently theres truth to it. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking it, I would meself, but was suprised to find out that this sort of thing goes on.

Tombi!

Marsden wrote: »

Local welfare officer told my wife, I couldn't belive it either. I had always put it down as BS that some clown made up along with the extra dole money for socializing but apparently theres truth to it. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking it, I would meself, but was suprised to find out that this sort of thing goes on.

I do know that some non-Irish can get rent allowance easier using claims of racism (which probably is very true) but never a car or the likes.

Korvanica

Saruman wrote: »

Really? You hear one anecdotal story of welfare fraud and the alleged perpetrators deserve to be racially abused?

did you read the last sentence of my post ? "Anyone else"... (that covers everyone regardless of skin colour)

Fair enough if its a myth like some are saying. Seemed believable to me as welfare fraud is rife in this country.

But it must be a myth because ya know. it couldn't possibly happen.

I may go read up on all the possible urban myths so I wont be a fool any more. Fool being polite of course. I soon will also be a massive OP. :pac:

Noel Kinsella

Marsden wrote: »

There was a story going round before (never verified to me) about non Irish taxi drivers being aloud to sit thier taxi exam using a map. while Irish lads had to remember streets and routes. If that sort of thing is true I can understand where the whole racism in the taxi industry started.

I sat my taxi test alongside black drivers and none of them had maps to be honest. I do wonder where they got the money for their plates and nice cars while on welfare though ? I thought it was just enough to live on ! And the story about them getting cars is true from back in the day and money to get their hair braided as its needed for their "religion" and mobile phones and satellite tv to keep in touch with whats going on at home and socialising money. All of these payments are given at the discretion of their "social welfare relieving officer" and are in the "special requests category" we will not see any hard proof of this in our lifetime but it will come out in the end. If someone who had access to the social welfare accounts of the celtic tiger days leaked them the country would be in a revolution worse than greece.

The_Kew_Tour

Its just one thing that pisses me off when I hear people bashing Irish people on the dole through no fault of their own, but yet miss out on a far greater problem in Irish welfare cirlce.

I have a friend who is a teacher in a Kerry town. He lives in a estate renting with his girlfiend.

On his block there is 8 houses. He is in one, and in 5 other houses there is people from African origin. In 4 of those 5 familes none of the Married/Partners work and one of them have both working.

In the non working houses the couple have 12reg cars, they have the best of washing machines, fridges, have xboxs, a new tvs etc. In the house with both Husband and Wife working they have a 98 reg car with no new washing machine etc.

Now im not saying its majority and know hell of lot of people came here to work and they have been great for this country in so many ways from the backward society we lived in back in 80's and beyond.

My mate is gets on well with each, but one of the Wifes that both Parents dont work admitted that they never came here to look for work, and came here for what they believe to be their "entitlment" as she put it to my friend. My friend has only good words to say about each family as they dont cause trouble etc, but does feel angry that he and his girlfriend work and they struggle to pay bills etc.

I tell you right now one thing if the figure was to ever come out about how much is given to non nationals every week people will fall of their chair.

Noel Kinsella

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Its just one thing that pisses me off when I hear people bashing Irish people on the dole through no fault of their own, but yet miss out on a far greater problem in Irish welfare cirlce.

I have a friend who is a teacher in a Kerry town. He lives in a estate renting with his girlfiend.

On his block there is 8 houses. He is in one, and in 5 other houses there is people from African origin. In 4 of those 5 familes none of the Married/Partners work and one of them have both working.

In the non working houses the couple have 12reg cars, they have the best of washing machines, fridges, have xboxs, a new tvs etc. In the house with both Husband and Wife working they have a 98 reg car with no new washing machine etc.

Now im not saying its majority and know hell of lot of people came here to work and they have been great for this country in so many ways from the backward society we lived in back in 80's and beyond.

My mate is gets on well with each, but one of the Wifes that both Parents dont work admitted that they never came here to look for work, and came here for what they believe to be their "entitlment" as she put it to my friend. My friend has only good words to say about each family as they dont cause trouble etc, but does feel angry that he and his girlfriend work and they struggle to pay bills etc.

I tell you right now one thing if the figure was to ever come out about how much is given to non nationals every week people will fall of their chair.

Thats a fact ! I would say the government are paying "simple servants" to act as trolls on sites like this with a hidden agenda to discredit what people are saying and not let the truth out.

Boombastic

How many white males did they interview in their study??

gallag

Boombastic wrote: »

How many white males did they interview in their study??

Sure, white people can't be a victim of racism.

biko

It doesn't surprise me at all that black people feel most discriminated against - it's probably true.
Out of all racist slurs I've ever heard the majority would be against blacks, with travellers a close second. Then maybe Roma.

ShadowHearth

Oh dear, this thread again. I am a foreigner living in Ireland for 7-8years. I am Eastern European and in all that time I had only a few racism incidents, but even then my though was: that person is a dickhead, not: jaysus, this bunch of lads are prety damn racist on this island!

I have never complained about racism and Irish give them way too much credit of being "very racist". There are just dickheads, every nation has dickheads, there is a lot of foreigner dickheads too I might add, which live/lived in Ireland that I know off personally. Mighty even bigger number then Irish ones.

Oh, my favourite fathers ted episode is the "father ted racist" one. "It's not Greeks his after! It's Chinese! I don't care! As long as I can have a go at Greeks! They invented gayness!!!"

Gabriele

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

I totally disagree with your opinion. I have lived there I have friends in the police and carrabinare over there and the place is out of control just like spain and france. I could name streets just outside the centre of Rome when Girls mainly african stand bent over with their bare ass in the air at all hours of the day and night as an "advertisement" for anal sex. They are given NOTHING by the state thats why they have to do it. Have you seen the container towns all over Italy and France full of immigrants because there is no houses for them ? Policed by private security with guns ? You have no idea how good you have it here thats why you are complaining.

There is a huge problem with immigration in italy, no doubt about that. Human traffic, well it happens here as well, couple of months ago a case was reported here as well, so it happens everywhere.
Let me tell you one thing, I was an "immigrant" in italy, (From south to North, you have been there so you should know what it means, otherwise look for it, and look for the political party "lega nord" to understand what i mean) and i am an immigrant now, and i don;t see any different in the mind set of the people. If you are talking about working opportunities or politics, you are right Ireland is better than Italy come on we had Berlusconi ..... the name speaks for himself... If you are talking about social racism, sorry but no, it is not much better.

Death and Taxes

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Korvanica wrote: »

A guy I know works in a car dealers and 2 black guys came in and were looking at a 2nd hand car. Were told the price and went off. Came back a while later with a cheque from the welfare office (about €2000) for the car. When asked how they got it they laughed and said "We went in and told welfare we were experiencing racism on the bus and wanted our own car". Boom free cheque.

Discriminated against ? I'm not racist but **** me these guys deserve it. and anyone else who does crap like this.

Total and utter bollocks, another urban myth!
Jesus H but its people peddling myths like this causes problems:mad:

giant_midget

WileyCoyote wrote: »

:mad:

Total and utter bollocks, another urban myth!
Jesus H but its people peddling myths like this causes problems:mad:

Exactly! even i don't believe that & i'm as racist as they come! :pac:

Boombastic

Korvanica wrote: »

A guy I know works in a car dealers and 2 black guys came in and were looking at a 2nd hand car. Were told the price and went off. Came back a while later with a cheque from the welfare office (about €2000) for the car. When asked how they got it they laughed and said "We went in and told welfare we were experiencing racism on the bus and wanted our own car". Boom free cheque.

Discriminated against ? I'm not racist but **** me these guys deserve it. and anyone else who does crap like this.

Was one of them in a pram?

Death and Taxes

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

I sat my taxi test alongside black drivers and none of them had maps to be honest. I do wonder where they got the money for their plates and nice cars while on welfare though ? I thought it was just enough to live on ! And the story about them getting cars is true from back in the day and money to get their hair braided as its needed for their "religion" and mobile phones and satellite tv to keep in touch with whats going on at home and socialising money. All of these payments are given at the discretion of their "social welfare relieving officer" and are in the "special requests category" we will not see any hard proof of this in our lifetime but it will come out in the end. If someone who had access to the social welfare accounts of the celtic tiger days leaked them the country would be in a revolution worse than greece.

Biggest load of inflammatory, totally unsubstansiated racist BS I have ever read on boards! We will never see proof because like the tooth fairy and leprachauns it doesn't exist.

Seaneh

gallag wrote: »

Agnostic unionist. I suppose in your feeble racist mind anyone who does not want a united Ireland is a free Presbyterian loyalist ffs.

After the last post I quoted from you, you have the neck to call me racist?

****ing hilarious.

4zn76tysfajdxp

giant_midget wrote: »

Stop trying to be witty everytime you post something. It gets rather boring... Patethic thanks whore

No, no.

My name is URL

MagicMarker wrote: »

I would have thought it's generally accepted that Ireland is a pretty racist country, by "first world" standards.

This is clear just from reading boards, anyone remember when that TD declared that he would no longer deal with "Black Africans"? It was absolutely disgusting the amount of people defending him over that.

I would have thought that Irish travelers were discriminated against more than other groups. Most people don't even accept that they are a separate ethnic group despite the overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that they are, and the fact that legally they are classed as a distinct ethnic group.

average hero

I have sympathy for any black people who are discriminated against. I also have sympathy for white, Asian people who are discriminated against. I have a feeling that the 'racist' card is thrown about a little too much however.

I feel that certain groups of people cry 'racism' when they receive ANY kind of abuse. I have never seen any Asian communities cry about it in the way certain others may do.

Because we are white, we feel that we owe black people something - no we don't. We did not engage in the slave trade in Africa or any of the Imperialism that other nations may have done.

In my experience, I have engaged with black people in the job I work and generally have found that British or American black people are lovely like anyone else, however I have found black people from Africa have a very demanding way about them and some can be downright rude. If I were to pull them up on it, I know I would be called a 'racist'.

I think this report is poppycock to be honest with you

Davyhal

Seeing it around me every day, I would definitely agree with posters that are saying that the black community are definitely more vocal about discrimination against them than other parts of society. One need only look at the attitudes in secondary schools. Black and white kids often hanging out together, you see them in their groups walking around town on Saturdays. The traveller kids in school, they stick with each other. Rarely do you see someone go out of their way to befriend the traveller kid.... Also, look at treatment in pubs and nightclubs. Though I know someone will follow me up with an incident to counteract my point, I must say that I have never seen a black person being refused service in a pub or nightclub due to discrimination. I cannot say the same about the travelling community.

GalwayGuy2

Personally, I think Ireland is a ridiculously racist country, by many developed countries standards. But I think it's more on nationalities and travelers than skin color.

I have read countless articles that begin with something like: "white straight, males cannot be discriminated against, and if they disagree then they're babies", so if you meet a dick who's an ass, you might believe it's on a distinguishing trait. Like if you were Irish in England and the IRA re-surfaced and began a bombing campaign. Or the dickhead is a bullyboy who sees the non-irish man or woman as easy pickings, since I don't think Ireland treats it's foreigners great.

Most people don't even accept that they are a separate ethnic group despite the overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that they are, and the fact that legally they are classed as a distinct ethnic group.

Eh, some travellers would say they're as Irish, if not more so, than Irish people themselves. I think I'll stick to however they want to be classified as:)

pontia

who cares,enough to worry about myself,they bypassed many countries to get here that they may have been happier in,could our generous welfare have a bearing ?

bohsman

Irish people aren't racist, all the Russians, Poles, Spanish and Italians are. If you don't like it go home (not sure what they should do if they are Irish?). They deserve it because they are used to haggling and take part in welfare fraud. (luckily no Irish people would ever defraud the welfare). They all came here for the welfare system apparently (couldn't possibly be Irish or be here for work). No racism to be found in this thread.

Gyalist

Valentina Bitter Nitpicker wrote: »

If that's your attitude, I'm not surprised you don't feel welcome. Nothing got my back up more in Ireland than foreigners moaning about it. It really is incredibly rude to go to another country and tell the locals all the things you hate about it. I currently live in Spain and sure, lots of things bother me, but I'm not going to tell my Spanish friends all the things I don't like about their country. I decided to live here, I'm a guest here and I'm grateful that there's plenty of work here in my field, unlike back in Ireland. Have some basic manners, FFS, stop looking down on the country that's providing you with a job and people might be a bit nicer to you and you might enjoy it more.

Yeah, how dare the poster express an opinion and recount their experience on the topic of discrimination in Ireland. Only Irish people are allowed to express an opinion, no matter how ill-informed, on the topic.

The poster should just sit down and shut up and accept that their place will always be at the back of the bus.

Death and Taxes

pontia wrote: »

who cares,enough to worry about myself,they bypassed many countries to get here that they may have been happier in,could our generous welfare have a bearing ?

Actually we went out to them in many cases looking for doctors and nurses in many cases!:mad:

MagicSean

My name is URL wrote: »

I would have thought that Irish travelers were discriminated against more than other groups. Most people don't even accept that they are a separate ethnic group despite the overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that they are, and the fact that legally they are classed as a distinct ethnic group.

Legally they are not classes as a separate ethnic group. That's why they are named separately in equality legislation. Unless thats been changed recently.

Anyway, the majority of people who claim to be travellers are no more attached to their "ethnic" identity than you or I are to the Normans.

suicide_circus

Considering what a backward facist hellhole this is, it is surprising that most of the black immigrants who arrived over the last decade havn't left.

Oranage2

As countries go Ireland is definitely one of the most discriminatory.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Ireland really didn't start getting immigrants up until relativity recently. I imagine it will take a generation or two for successful integration. Look at England its fairly multicultural now but black immigrants weren't exactly welcomed with open arms when they first started arriving in the 50's.

pontia

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Actually we went out to them in many cases looking for doctors and nurses in many cases!:mad:

many cases ? how many would that be then ?

dttq

gimli2112 wrote: »

Think it was a Mayor in Kildare that said that. I find a lot of people are d*cks irrespective of race tbh!

In fairness, just another run-of-the-mill, tick-as-a-plank, village idiot bumpkin counsellor we are infamous for electing in this country, his ilk are better ignored or better yet, pitied.

That's sad that the black community feels this way, hopefully with time we will become a more tolerant and progressive society. Unfortunately the village idiots and "they tuk er jerbs" brigade aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

pontia

dttq wrote: »

In fairness, just another run-of-the-mill, tick-as-a-plank, village idiot bumpkin counsellor we are infamous for electing in this country, his ilk are better ignored or better yet, pitied.

That's sad that the black community feels this way, hopefully with time we will become a more tolerant and progressive society. Unfortunately the village idiots and "they tuk er jerbs" brigade aren't going anywhere for the foreseeable future.

he was dealing with these people and had numerous problems with them and spoke out,would it have been such a big issue if they werent black ?

Ray Palmer

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

I sat my taxi test alongside black drivers and none of them had maps to be honest. I do wonder where they got the money for their plates and nice cars while on welfare though ? I thought it was just enough to live on ! And the story about them getting cars is true from back in the day and money to get their hair braided as its needed for their "religion" and mobile phones and satellite tv to keep in touch with whats going on at home and socialising money. All of these payments are given at the discretion of their "social welfare relieving officer" and are in the "special requests category" we will not see any hard proof of this in our lifetime but it will come out in the end. If someone who had access to the social welfare accounts of the celtic tiger days leaked them the country would be in a revolution worse than greece.

I worked in SW for a while as a consultant. Had access to all the records and worked on parts of the system to detect fraud. As a result special payments had an approval report. Basically over €200 was flagged and queried. I can assure you people did not get 2k for a car ever!
Now you can make up what you like but I for one know you are wrong. My wife now works for SW and has had colleagues claim such stories are true. Yet these people with access to the information can't find it. They still claim they know it is true but the records are hidden. Considering the software there is no way for somebody to hand out money with no record or a hidden record.
You won't believe me.
Special payments are made but no chance for the funds claimed in urban legends.

My name is URL

My name is URL wrote: »

I would have thought that Irish travelers were discriminated against more than other groups. Most people don't even accept that they are a separate ethnic group despite the overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that they are, and the fact that legally they are classed as a distinct ethnic group.

Well if a law says something then it has to be true.


Ireland has plenty of small-time stupidity but little outright racism IMO. We have no right-wing parties, we have no racist paramilitaries etc. etc. Despite the huge increase in the immigrant population in the last few decades, at a rate rarely seen other than next to warzones, we've had little tension compared to other countries which have done it more slowly. I did notice a bit of anti-immigrant workers for a while but even that seems to have passed because it was just a different thing to displace anger towards. Looking through history things often start like that but they "hook" because there's an underlying hatred, that just doesn't seem to have happened in Ireland.

Scruffles

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Personally, I think Ireland is a ridiculously racist country, by many developed countries standards. But I think it's more on nationalities and travelers than skin color.

I have read countless articles that begin with something like: "white straight, males cannot be discriminated against, and if they disagree then they're babies", so if you meet a dick who's an ass, you might believe it's on a distinguishing trait. Like if you were Irish in England and the IRA re-surfaced and began a bombing campaign. Or the dickhead is a bullyboy who sees the non-irish man or woman as easy pickings, since I don't think Ireland treats it's foreigners great.

if its on nationalities then it isnt racism,that is called xenophobia.

also that is BS that white hetro males cannot be discriminated against-whoever have said that either were white hetro males with a victim mentality or were people who held biases and discrimination towards specific groups themselves.
have known many white hetro males in the disability community who have suffered from discrimination in their life due to having a disability and although am not male nor in ownership of any sexuality,have personaly experienced acute disability discrimination since playschool to the current day,same as young adult cousins of mine in tallaght [one with high functioning classic autism one with learning/intelectual disability].
the fact we have a disability discrimination act doesnt make a difference to most peoples experiences of discrimination due to loop holes and the DDA picking and choosing what disabilities shoud be accomodated under it.

suicide_circus

Oranage2 wrote: »

As countries go Ireland is definitely one of the most discriminatory.

lol

Piliger

Oranage2 wrote: »

As countries go Ireland is definitely one of the most discriminatory.

You're taking the pi$$ now ........ :rolleyes:

Piliger

My name is URL wrote: »

I would have thought that Irish travelers were discriminated against more than other groups. Most people don't even accept that they are a separate ethnic group despite the overwhelming amount of evidence which suggests that they are, and the fact that legally they are classed as a distinct ethnic group.

They are not an ethnic group. The politically correct nonsense that gets passed in law is just that - nonsense. And Travellers are not discriminated against. They are thrown out of pubs for wrecking the place, banned from Hotels for wrecking the place, disliked because they destroy everywhere they go with refuse and garbage, and still they manage to persuade the State to fund their lifestyle.

Piliger

suicide_circus wrote: »

Considering what a backward facist hellhole this is, it is surprising that most of the black immigrants who arrived over the last decade havn't left.

I work with several black people and have quite a few Asian acquaintances. Many of both groups have told me that Ireland is the least racist country they have lived in, and far far better than the UK.

Ten years ago I visited Africa and the racism there against white people is astonishing and very very frightening !!

Nodin

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

My opinion is this : I blame culture and music videos etc I think black people "in general" are playing up to the stereotype of rap videos, movies, etc about easy money, biatches etc etc they walk like the rappers shake hands like the rappers and want the "good life" without working etc .....

Good jaysus spare us.....

gallag wrote:

I think black people are against equality, they separate them self at every opportunity, the black music awards, black police federation, the black lawyers, the black entertainment channel etc etc. They believe every advantage should be afforded to them as a right because of the guilt we should feel from our great grand parents being dicks to their great grandparents. .....

Breaking with loyalist stereotypes there I see.

korvanica wrote:

A guy I know works in a car dealers and 2 black guys came in and were looking at a 2nd hand car. Were told the price and went off. Came back a while later with a cheque from the welfare office (about €2000) for the car. When asked how they got it they laughed and said "We went in and told welfare we were experiencing racism on the bus and wanted our own car". Boom free cheque.

Total bollocks - its never happened. Not once, not then, not now, never.

Marsden wrote:

Local welfare officer told my wife, I couldn't belive it either. I had always put it down as BS that some clown made up along with the extra dole money for socializing but apparently theres truth to it. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking it, I would meself, but was suprised to find out that this sort of thing goes on. .....

It doesn't. It's bollocks.

Nodin

pontia wrote: »

he was dealing with these people and had numerous problems with them and spoke out,would it have been such a big issue if they werent black ?

....if he refused to deal with white irish people anymore? I'd imagine there would have been.

twinytwo

Tbf any time iv seen race get mentioned, it is usually the person of the different race who brings it up...

Gyalist

Gyalist wrote: »

Yeah, how dare the poster express an opinion and recount their experience on the topic of discrimination in Ireland. Only Irish people are allowed to express an opinion, no matter how ill-informed, on the topic.

The poster should just sit down and shut up and accept that their place will always be at the back of the bus.

I wasn't talking about that. Obviously he's as entitled to expression his opinion on that issue as anyone else. I was talking about his general 'I don't like Ireland, I'm only here because there's work' attitude. It's a sh*tty attitude to have towards your host country. If a Spanish person asked me what I thought of their bureaucracy or police or treatment of immigrants, I'd be honest in my answer, but I wouldn't imply that I didn't want to be here, because that's plain rude. It just is. You're never going to win friends or fit in by running down the country you CHOSE to live in. I knew a lot of foreign Google employees etc and their incessant moaning about Dublin and Irish people used to do my head in. It's bad manners, pure and simple.