Black People Feel Most Discriminated against

Doc Ruby

Oranage2 wrote: »

Tell the truth, this didn't actually happen did it?

Just for information's sake, its quite likely that it did...

One journalist friend told me of an interview he had with a Hitler Manila. Mr Manila, who does not share the Nazi ideology, told him that he was always remembered for his name but it sometimes caused problems.
One time, when he was shooting pool with some visiting Germans, the atmosphere became tense after he wrote his name on the blackboard to reserve the next game.



Order was not restored until he pulled out his driving licence to prove his name really was Hitler.
Still, that experience did not stop him from carrying on the family tradition. His sons are named Himmler and Hess after two of Hitler's closest associates.

People with no experience in different cultures often don't get just how different they can be.

BrendaN_f

monkeysnapper wrote: »

I'm from Wales and have been called taffy, sheep shagger , English , from cork , do you see me complaining .

I work in retail in a supermarket and I'm a happy person that always says please and thank you. But I find most people will say thank you after the transaction even if they don't really mean it . But most black people don't say anything. I'm not racist . I don't care what anybody says. I once went out with a Chinese girl for over 12 months. Even a smile or a grunt .. Nothing.

Now saying that there is 2 black lady's that come in and they're lovely . Great craic .

Edit.... When I say not even a smile or grunt I'm talking about black people not my ex the Chinese girl.... Who I may say dumped me for a older guy . Bitch , broke me bleeding heart ...

you know, i hear people make the exact same comments about eastern europeans (about being cold and unfriendly). funnily enough i've never found that to be true in either case.... wonder who is really the problem?

Oranage2

Doc Ruby wrote: »

Just for information's sake, its quite likely that it did...

People with no experience in different cultures often don't get just how different they can be.

Ah sure maybe it did though i heard this swastika story so many times but the story slightly changes from a Buddhist/Hindu book to t-shirts, caps etc.

The stereotype of the dumb American was enough for me to not believe his story.

Though as you speak about culture i think some of the racism stems from that and that some people don't adapt to our culture and even that some things they do culturally would be considered quite rude to us.

And a lot of times when cultural differences happen some people claim racism.

Noel Kinsella

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Pathetic

Is that all you have got ? The truth hurts ? well its not my problem. People like you feed this whole problem. Well done.

Noel Kinsella

Magill wrote: »

There's definitely a bit of discrimination.. but really, if a white person in Ireland is treated badly by someone... we typically just put it down to that person being a bit of a "****". Whereas black people here would tend to think they are being discriminated against and don't really acknowledge that some people are just arseholes and the whole situation probably had nothing to do with their skin color. At least that's my theory.

travelers are without a doubt discriminated against more so than anyone else imo

At last someone speaking some sense around here.

Noel Kinsella

mikemac1 wrote: »

Irish missionaries I suppose

Isn't that given as a reason that so many skip countless safe countries and arrive here.

They knew a few Irish missionaries and so chose Ireland

Ahhh so they all knew Irish missionaries ? OR some nations are accepted as the "fraud capitol" of the world and educate themselves where the next soft touch is and travel accordingly. I could start quoting EU law and how a refugee should stop in the first safe place they arrive which is NEVER Ireland . Or is it the generous welfare system but God help us because we certainly wont help or educate ourselves the sad thing is we are not being thanked or even treated fairly by these people they are laughing at us the fools that we are, were the shoe on the other foot things would be quite different. I love my country and my people but and it saddens we how thick, ignorant and naive most of us are. If you allow a poisonous snake to live freely in your home one day he will bite you FACT but then its too late but thats life who are the poisonous snakes ? Well it could be the people who exploit us or our own who congratulate them for exploiting us ...............................

mikemac1

If you started quoting law someone would reply with the Dublin convention

It's a sticky over in politics forum

Noel Kinsella

Scram wrote: »

i went into a taxi the other day, it was a black taxi driver.

At the end of the journey he thanked me for getting in his taxi, i was shocked and humbled.

Why were you shocked ? did a white driver never thank you for the business or for tip ever ? Or did you just expect the worst because he was black ? That would probably make you a racist. As far as I am concerned black taxi drivers are not a problem its an open market they provide a service and fair play to them I think some of the black taxi drivers are a step up from the mafia scum of the old timers. I would like to know where they got the money to get a plate and fancy car while on welfare though ?

Noel Kinsella

mikemac1 wrote: »

If you started quoting law someone would reply with the Dublin convention

It's a sticky over in politics forum

Whats the Dublin Convention ?

Death and Taxes

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Why were you shocked ? did a white driver never thank you for the business or for tip ever ? Or did you just expect the worst because he was black ? That would probably make you a racist. As far as I am concerned black taxi drivers are not a problem its an open market they provide a service and fair play to them I think some of the black taxi drivers are a step up from the mafia scum of the old timers. I would like to know where they got the money to get a plate and fancy car while on welfare though ?[/QUOTE]
Because maybe they are not on welfare????? DUH
Of course some racist types presume all blacks are on welfare, god love their uneducated ignorance.

Noel Kinsella

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Why were you shocked ? did a white driver never thank you for the business or for tip ever ? Or did you just expect the worst because he was black ? That would probably make you a racist. As far as I am concerned black taxi drivers are not a problem its an open market they provide a service and fair play to them I think some of the black taxi drivers are a step up from the mafia scum of the old timers. I would like to know where they got the money to get a plate and fancy car while on welfare though ?[/QUOTE]
Because maybe they are not on welfare????? DUH
Of course some racist types presume all blacks are on welfare, god love their uneducated ignorance.

Not ALL but SOME were I spoke to them and they Just smiled ! So SOME definitely WERE on WELFARE DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

markas

mikemac1 wrote: »

So even other Africans don't trust the Nigerians according to that video

I have heard similar opinions from others. They are too proud to integrate with others (something like Irish, lol), even between themselves they fight all the time (in fact there are hundreds of tribes, no sure which ones come to Ireland most often, obviously not the poorest people), and so on

The more interesting is their fertility rate - 5.5 vs 2 in Ireland (highest in Europe). In the last 50 years their population quadrupled - it is expected that in two generations they will reach 500 from today 150 mln. 2100 - 800 mln, and so on. In countries where they emigrate to this rate could be much higher as they experience much better life conditions (average life exp. in Nigeria 40 years, not 80 like Europe) and they will not be killing each other as they will in their homeland. And how can you stop uniting families (which are huge even comparing with Irish Travelleres standards), once the problems escalates there. I wonder how Irish goverment is prepared for this. Of course it is not. I am not even mentionig crime rate and corruption there which is part of the culture they are likely to spread here.

markas

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Why were you shocked ? did a white driver never thank you for the business or for tip ever ?

Actually never in Ireland. They have no problem with this in the Uk, for example, so I think it is not an universal problem of taxidrivers. Just here from my experience.

Noel Kinsella

markas wrote: »

Actually never in Ireland. They have no problem with this in the Uk, for example, so I think it is not an universal problem of taxidrivers. Just here from my experience.

My experiences have been different to be honest.

markas

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

My experiences have been different to be honest.

I wanted to add that it all may depend on nationality of a driver and a passegner. In my case I am always a foreigner, whreas the driver is a local in Ireland. But I am biased - I think high fares spoil characters

Nodin

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Ahhh so they all knew Irish missionaries ? OR some nations are accepted as the "fraud capitol" of the world and educate themselves where the next soft touch is and travel accordingly. I could start quoting EU law and how a refugee should stop in the first safe place they arrive which is NEVER Ireland

You couldn't, because you'd be talking bollocks.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59465073&postcount=1

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Whats the Dublin Convention ?
.

Sez it all really

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Or is it the generous welfare system but God help us because we certainly wont help or educate ourselves the sad thing is we are not being thanked or even treated fairly by these people they are laughing at us the fools that we are, were the shoe on the other foot things would be quite different. I love my country and my people but and it saddens we how thick, ignorant and naive most of us are. If you allow a poisonous snake to live freely in your home one day he will bite you FACT but then its too late but thats life who are the poisonous snakes ? Well it could be the people who exploit us or our own who congratulate them for exploiting us ...............................

Not that you'd make massive generalisations or anything,no. That would be something a racist would do.

Death and Taxes

Amazing really how the charter now allows one group of people to be described as "Poisonous Snakes", it takes a particularly venomous mind to describe other human beings in those terms!

mikemac1

Report it so

markas

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Amazing really how the charter now allows one group of people to be described as "Poisonous Snakes", it takes a particularly venomous mind to describe other human beings in those terms!

I have no problem with that, as far as it does not have stupid racist connotations.
In fact I think Irish kindness is rather sneaky, not like British, but still. You know - business like fake pose.
Which not the worst - people can be far worse.
But it is bad for you now- saying that you are 'not racist or anything' and the same time moaning and groaning about 'damned foreigners stealing our jobs' or now - social benefits... is poisonous to yourselves. It's your government not these stupid immigrants.

Show Time

markas wrote: »

I have heard similar opinions from others. They are too proud to integrate with others (something like Irish, lol), even between themselves they fight all the time (in fact there are hundreds of tribes, no sure which ones come to Ireland most often, obviously not the poorest people), and so on

The more interesting is their fertility rate - 5.5 vs 2 in Ireland (highest in Europe). In the last 50 years their population quadrupled - it is expected that in two generations they will reach 500 from today 150 mln. 2100 - 800 mln, and so on. In countries where they emigrate to this rate could be much higher as they experience much better life conditions (average life exp. in Nigeria 40 years, not 80 like Europe) and they will not be killing each other as they will in their homeland. And how can you stop uniting families (which are huge even comparing with Irish Travelleres standards), once the problems escalates there. I wonder how Irish goverment is prepared for this. Of course it is not. I am not even mentionig crime rate and corruption there which is part of the culture they are likely to spread here.

As corporal Hicks said in Aliens

Nuke em it's the only way to be sure.

markas

Show Time wrote: »

As corporal Hicks said in Aliens

Nuke em it's the only way to be sure.

yep, your comment is really 'intelligent'
Lagos - from 0.25 mln to 25 mln since 1950... 100x growth. from Cork size town to one of the biggest cities in the world. Not best to live though. But I do not think accepting them to Ireland is gonna help anybody. Rather compulsory education and ticket back to thier country, if anything

Show Time

markas wrote: »

yep, your comment is really 'intelligent'
Lagos - from 0.25 mln to 25 mln since 1950... 100x growth. from Cork size town to one of the biggest cities in the world. Not best to live though. But I do not think accepting them to Ireland is gonna help anybody. Rather compulsory education and ticket back to thier country, if anything

You might think different in twenty years time.

Death and Taxes

Immigration is probably the best thing that has happened to this country in the last 20 years.

BlaasForRafa

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Immigration is probably the best thing that has happened to this country in the last 20 years.

Aside from the good looking polish women I can't think of any other reason why you'd think that.

BlaasForRafa

BrendaN_f wrote: »

you know, i hear people make the exact same comments about eastern europeans (about being cold and unfriendly). funnily enough i've never found that to be true in either case.... wonder who is really the problem?

I was thinking of going to St Petersburg in Russia on holiday so I got a guidebook for it and one of the recommendations it gives to tourists is that you shouldn't smile when your buying things in shops or in general meeting people for the first time. Apparently in Russia if someone you don't know smiles at you it means they're deceitful and dishonest. Its just a cultural difference I guess which may explain why eastern europeans at first seem to be unfriendly.

markas

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I was thinking of going to St Petersburg in Russia on holiday so I got a guidebook for it and one of the recommendations it gives to tourists is that you shouldn't smile when your buying things in shops or in general meeting people for the first time. Apparently in Russia if someone you don't know smiles at you it means they're deceitful and dishonest. Its just a cultural difference I guess which may explain why eastern europeans at first seem to be unfriendly.

There are no more friendly people than Russian, once you know them... if they let you of course. But why should they smile to every idiot from the West? They are also very racist. There is no grater nation than Russian - they all know that. Btw, most of the Baltic states immigrants are Russians. Whatever 'Eastern Europeans' means its not them.

markas

Oranage2 wrote: »

Yes but they should have read our guide book when they came heRe to say its rude not to smile in a shop.

One of functions of immigration is to expose how your face can be viewed, its imperfections, to which you prefer to keep blind eye. Irish politeness is a make-up. Why they cannot openly say 'we have problem with immigration'? Not that the immigration is the problem, but the problem is that you are to scared to admit what you think. It so easier to pretend that we are all the same and lovely people, no matter where we come from... And than surprise - Africans feel discriminated.

Nodin

Show Time wrote: »

You might think different in twenty years time.

Yeah, because second generation and third generation immigrants carry on exactly like first generation immigrants. Sure look at us paddys, with an average family size of 10 and a half.....

Duzzer

markas wrote: »

One of functions of immigration is to expose how your face can be viewed, its imperfections, to which you prefer to keep blind eye. Irish politeness is a make-up. Why they cannot openly say 'we have problem with immigration'? Not that the immigration is the problem, but the problem is that you are to scared to admit what you think. It so easier to pretend that we are all the same and lovely people, no matter where we come from... And than surprise - Africans feel discriminated.

If your prepared to work hard and make a positive contribution you'll always be accepted quite quickly in any country you go to. Thats why for example this isn't a thread about discrimination against the Chinese community.

archer22

Oranage2 wrote: »

Ah sure maybe it did though i heard this swastika story so many times but the story slightly changes from a Buddhist/Hindu book to t-shirts, caps etc.

The stereotype of the dumb American was enough for me to not believe his story.

Though as you speak about culture i think some of the racism stems from that and that some people don't adapt to our culture and even that some things they do culturally would be considered quite rude to us.

And a lot of times when cultural differences happen some people claim racism.

That it has happened many times is not proof that it never happened you clown.As for the "dumb American" you better believe many of them are Dumb not all but MANY.As for the incident I recounted it happened outside a hotel by the waterfront...involved a group of 3 elderly Americans and a filipino guy about early 20s who was sitting on the side of his motorbike minding his own business waiting for somebody from the hotel.Not a major incident by any means but certainly a display of idiocy by the Americans who were displaying the same type of arrogant self righteous ignorance as you in your posts.Frankly I was hoping the Filipino would pull out a pistol and burst a few caps on their old asses ..something that can easily happen to arrogant oafs in the Phils.

Show Time

Nodin wrote: »

Yeah, because second generation and third generation immigrants carry on exactly like first generation immigrants. Sure look at us paddys, with an average family size of 10 and a half.....

G'way sure play your racist card again as that seems to be all you ever do on here kid.:rolleyes:

Show Time

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Immigration is probably the best thing that has happened to this country in the last 20 years.

How so?


Lets see some facts and figures to back up this claim.

markas

Duzzer wrote: »

If your prepared to work hard and make a positive contribution you'll always be accepted quite quickly in any country you go to.

well said. irrelevant to current situation though...

Super-Rush

Show Time wrote: »

As corporal Hicks said in Aliens

Nuke em it's the only way to be sure.

Banned.

BlaasForRafa

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Aside from the good looking polish women I can't think of any other reason why you'd think that.

Good lookin' Latvian women?

Ninjy

gallag wrote: »

I think black people are against equality, they separate them self at every opportunity, the black music awards, black police federation, the black lawyers, the black entertainment channel etc etc. They believe every advantage should be afforded to them as a right because of the guilt we should feel from our great grand parents being dicks to their great grandparents.

Wait a sec... what did our great grand parents do to their great grand parents? The Irish were used as slaves too you know!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHYFXDGf4Y

Ninjy

Piliger wrote: »

Ten years ago I visited Africa and the racism there against white people is astonishing and very very frightening !!

Do you know how ridiculous that sounds?

Let me replace the word "Africa" with "Asia".

"Ten years ago I visited Asia and the racism there against white people is astonishing and very very frightening !!"


So which African country are you on about anyway?

Ninjy

maneno wrote: »

Wacha zako

Wewe... wacha kucheza!

Unatoka Kenya?

Ninjy

Nodin wrote: »

...according to the taxi driver in that video, thus making it something people can repeat as fact the next time a thread on any even vaguely related topic occurs.

I've lived in East Africa and I can tell you for certain that they don't trust Nigerians.

Noel Kinsella

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Immigration is probably the best thing that has happened to this country in the last 20 years.

You are a moron, probably a civil serpent in a cushy job. You are not in the real world at all. I also have the distinct impression the gang around here that are all backing each other up are probably non nationals trying to stir things up with plenty of time on their hands or maybe civil serpents with an agenda. You are not ordinary decent Irish folk because you are far too "ANTI" Ireland for that.

Noel Kinsella

Nodin wrote: »

You couldn't, because you'd be talking bollocks.
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=59465073&postcount=1


Sez it all really



Not that you'd make massive generalisations or anything,no. That would be something a racist would do.

Watch your language towards me I did not use bad language towards you. Your aggression and knowledge of the ins and out of " dublin Convention" and also the fact that you KEEP using the racist word have helped me to understand your true origin you are not a hard working Irish person with 30 years of taxes paid to the country like myself you are something entirely different you have an agenda thats for sure.

Chinasea

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

You are not ordinary decent Irish folk because you are far too "ANTI" Ireland .

I think you have exposed and speak enough hate and grime on behalf of 'decent' folk, keep on though, you have plenty of support, malevolence is strong amongst these 'folk'.

Noel Kinsella

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Amazing really how the charter now allows one group of people to be described as "Poisonous Snakes", it takes a particularly venomous mind to describe other human beings in those terms!

If you read my post clearly you would see that "who" the poisonous snakes were was up to the individual to decide. But you did not read my post you just jumped to conclusions as per usual sure why not throw the "racist" word it for effect too just to blur the original issue even further.

Noel Kinsella

Chinasea wrote: »

I think you have exposed and speak enough hate and grime on behalf of 'decent' folk, keep on though, you have plenty of support, malevolence is strong amongst these 'folk'.

Hate ? Grime ? I think not. Do you not like "decent Irish folk" ? Maybe the hate is on your side not mine. Could I make the assumption you are "Chinese" by your user name ? Would it be ok to ask you how "refugees" are treated in China ? Should I start looking at human rights statistics ? Or should we all just accept that Ireland is a welcoming country and generous to a fault and we are all lucky to be here, us that were born here, the genuine refugees that do deserve to be here and the scam artists that have played the system and WON.

Death and Taxes

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

You are a moron, probably a civil serpent in a cushy job. You are not in the real world at all. I also have the distinct impression the gang around here that are all backing each other up are probably non nationals trying to stir things up with plenty of time on their hands or maybe civil serpents with an agenda. You are not ordinary decent Irish folk because you are far too "ANTI" Ireland for that.

I am a self employed Irish business person.
I resent being abused , called names, and being defamed and demand that you withdraw those remarks

Noel Kinsella

WileyCoyote wrote: »

I am a self employed Irish business person.
I resent being abused , called names, and being defamed and demand that you withdraw those remarks

Sorry I dont believe you. You clearly have an agenda and what that is only you know. Hows Business ?

Noel Kinsella

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Amazing really how the charter now allows one group of people to be described as "Poisonous Snakes", it takes a particularly venomous mind to describe other human beings in those terms!

Re Read my post I did not CALL anybody a poisonous snake. I demand an apology.

Lollipops23

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Re Read my post I did not CALL anybody a poisonous snake. I demand an apology.

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

I also have the distinct impression the gang around here that are all backing each other up are probably non nationals trying to stir things up with plenty of time on their hands or maybe civil serpents with an agenda.

In fairness, like...

Noel Kinsella

markas wrote: »

I have heard similar opinions from others. They are too proud to integrate with others (something like Irish, lol), even between themselves they fight all the time (in fact there are hundreds of tribes, no sure which ones come to Ireland most often, obviously not the poorest people), and so on

The more interesting is their fertility rate - 5.5 vs 2 in Ireland (highest in Europe). In the last 50 years their population quadrupled - it is expected that in two generations they will reach 500 from today 150 mln. 2100 - 800 mln, and so on. In countries where they emigrate to this rate could be much higher as they experience much better life conditions (average life exp. in Nigeria 40 years, not 80 like Europe) and they will not be killing each other as they will in their homeland. And how can you stop uniting families (which are huge even comparing with Irish Travelleres standards), once the problems escalates there. I wonder how Irish goverment is prepared for this. Of course it is not. I am not even mentionig crime rate and corruption there which is part of the culture they are likely to spread here.

Interesting reading.

Death and Taxes

Noel Kinsella wrote: »

Ahhh so they all knew Irish missionaries ? OR some nations are accepted as the "fraud capitol" of the world and educate themselves where the next soft touch is and travel accordingly. I could start quoting EU law and how a refugee should stop in the first safe place they arrive which is NEVER Ireland . Or is it the generous welfare system but God help us because we certainly wont help or educate ourselves the sad thing is we are not being thanked or even treated fairly by these people they are laughing at us the fools that we are, were the shoe on the other foot things would be quite different. I love my country and my people but and it saddens we how thick, ignorant and naive most of us are. If you allow a poisonous snake to live freely in your home one day he will bite you FACT but then its too late but thats life who are the poisonous snakes ? Well it could be the people who exploit us or our own who congratulate them for exploiting us ...............................[/QUOTE]
Point made you did refer to PEOPLE as POISONOUS SNAKES.
I'm out of this thread now, because I don't intend to banned or infracted for getting into a row with you or anyone else over what you have been posting.