Roadworks @ graveyard in balbriggan

maxfresh

Little Ted wrote: »

The lights don't seem to be sensored anymore, and also the right arrow is no longer there, meaning anyone unfamiliar with the junction gets delayed thinking that they are crossing traffic, when in fact they are free to turn while the opposite light is red.

I hope this is just a temporary thing and they reinstate the sensors. Very irritating at 6.30am and you are waiting for what feels like an age when there is no other traffic at any of the other junctions (I know its only a few mins but at 6.30am it feels like forever!)

the loops (sensors) will not be installed till the road surface is finished as they have to be cut into the tarmac, the lights will be on a fixed time plan till then

tatli_lokma

maxfresh wrote: »

the loops (sensors) will not be installed till the road surface is finished as they have to be cut into the tarmac, the lights will be on a fixed time plan till then

I hope your right. Still missing a right turn arrow though

kaisersoze

It was missing everything last night! Traffic lights, very poor visibilty as street lights are not working and huge drains poorly sign posted. Its a bit of a death trap at the moment. Is SIAC the main contractor?

kaisersoze

I spoke to Fingal Co Co Road department earlier and it appears someone cut/disconnected the power to the traffic lights yesterday, hence the problems.

He also told me they are waiting on the temperatures to raise a little before they can apply the final course of material to finish it off.

rccaulfield

What has been gained with all this work, everything is exactly the same except theres a bicycle sign on the pedestrian lights now and the road is wider for the trucks going to Tesco. The path is now one long death trap cos if anything mounts the path it hits the wall and scoops u anyone walking on the path all the way down? I thought there would be filter lights on all sides with 2 lanes but there is no filter lights on the traffic light system currently up so even if 2 lanes are ainted on somehow what difference will it make?

kaisersoze

According to Fingal CoCo, the current situation with the lights and signalling is not the way it will end up. They are only in an intermediate state until they are fully commissioned

They have to review the traffic and also there are smart sensors further back from the lights at Harry Reynolds Road to stop the traffic from building back to roundabout (apparently) :-)

In fairness to Fingal, I went to them before and suggested a change in sequence to the lighting that would counteract drivers breaking red lights and they were open to it and eventually made the change.

I would imagine when the whole road is widened from St Georges NS all the way down to the graveyard; it would be a lot better.

rccaulfield wrote: »

What has been gained with all this work, everything is exactly the same except theres a bicycle sign on the pedestrian lights now and the road is wider for the trucks going to Tesco. The path is now one long death trap cos if anything mounts the path it hits the wall and scoops u anyone walking on the path all the way down? I thought there would be filter lights on all sides with 2 lanes but there is no filter lights on the traffic light system currently up so even if 2 lanes are ainted on somehow what difference will it make?

Morpheus

kaisersoze wrote: »

I would imagine when the whole road is widened from St Georges NS all the way down to the graveyard; it would be a lot better.

feck all room to widen it, unless they move a few "residents" either in Prospect... or the graveyard!

rccaulfield

kaisersoze wrote: »

According to Fingal CoCo, the current situation with the lights and signalling is not the way it will end up. They are only in an intermediate state until they are fully commissioned

They have to review the traffic and also there are smart sensors further back from the lights at Harry Reynolds Road to stop the traffic from building back to roundabout (apparently) :-)

In fairness to Fingal, I went to them before and suggested a change in sequence to the lighting that would counteract drivers breaking red lights and they were open to it and eventually made the change.

I would imagine when the whole road is widened from St Georges NS all the way down to the graveyard; it would be a lot better.

Yea suppose we'll wait and see ta!

sgarvan

My email today

Can you please give me an update on this road works? And also give a push to the contractors.

It is now the 14th February and the road surface and junction layout is a disgrace.

It has been going on far too long at this stage and something needs to be resolved and complete soon.

FCC reply

The cold weather of the past few weeks have cause us serious problems as the final wearing course material chosen for this scheme needs to be laid when the prevailing air and the surface on which it is to be laid, i.e. ground temperature is above 8 degrees. Unfortunately these conditions have not been met and as a consequence the laying of the final wearing course was postponed on a number of occasions both on this site and on other site experiencing the same weather conditions. There has also been a knock on delay due to our specialist sub contractor being committed to complete other project which also experienced delays. I have been informed that the sub contractor has scheduled the work on the Naul Road to start tomorrow and running through next week when all the surfacing work s will be completed.

ozmo

sgarvan wrote: »

i.e. ground temperature is above 8 degrees

They seriously made plans... that required ground temperature to be above 8 degrees.... In December and January

kaisersoze

Thanks for that update.

The street lighting is a disgrace too.

I walk from town up to Westbrook every night and there has been so many near misses, I'm suprised nobody has been run over.

As last posted said, waiting on 8 degrees? I think the project manager needs to revisit his/her planning skills. I would imagine there are very few days in any December through to January where the temperature is greater than 8 c.

sgarvan wrote: »

My email today


FCC reply

sgarvan

FCC email today

Our specialist sub contractor is scheduled to commence laying the final road surface layer today Friday 15th and this will continue now that the prevailing air and road temperatures have risen until the work is complete by this day next week.

F1 fanatic

It would be nice if they got the street lighting working. How long does it take to wire a few lamps?

sgarvan

Good to see tarmacadam laying machines arriving here this morning

tatli_lokma

indeed - my tracking isn't enjoying the bumps and lumps on the road!

LittleLady25

I really hope the roadworks are finished soon, I am really close by and it is just tormenting, especially when they work saturdays.......:(

sgarvan

Good to see that the road markings have been painted.

It will take some getting used to when coming from the church side of Harry Reynolds road towards the Moylaragh side. The lane on the church side face the right turn lane on the Moylaragh side. Also the lane on the Moylaragh side is quite skinny.

What I can't understand is not putting a free flow left turn from the Naul Road onto the Harry Reynolds road. It is the busiest section of the road.

tatli_lokma

sgarvan wrote: »

What I can't understand is not putting a free flow left turn from the Naul Road onto the Harry Reynolds road. It is the busiest section of the road.

was thinking that myself this morning. Or they could even allow a left turn arrow from Naul Rd onto Harry Reynolds road at the same time as traffic has the green light from Harry Reynolds rd going straight and turning right.

Jimdagym

sgarvan wrote: »

What I can't understand is not putting a free flow left turn from the Naul Road onto the Harry Reynolds road. It is the busiest section of the road.

I do agree, but it will calm down by a huge amount if/when the link from George's ns to dunnes opens. That will take a huge number of cars out of that junction.

tatli_lokma

Jimdagym wrote: »

I do agree, but it will calm down by a huge amount if/when the link from George's ns to dunnes opens. That will take a huge number of cars out of that junction.

I thought that had been axed?

kaisersoze

Apparently Fingal Co Co are searching the back of the sofa to get the money for this..

As far as I can see, its only 10 yards of road, but you can't put a cost on the quality of life and how much better it would be for all commuters and residents of that area if they built that connecting road.

Little Ted wrote: »

I thought that had been axed?

tatli_lokma

I agree - it would be great for me if they did open that section of road. But I have also heard that some of the residents of Moylaragh have objected to it as it will create more traffic in that area. So I thought it had been as good as abandoned.

aniascor

Little Ted wrote: »

I agree - it would be great for me if they did open that section of road. But I have also heard that some of the residents of Moylaragh have objected to it as it will create more traffic in that area. So I thought it had been as good as abandoned.

I thought it was axed because their original intention was to connect it to the existing Moylaragh estate road, and when that road was assessed, it was discovered that it wasn't of sufficient quality to support the levels of traffic? Residents produced a report showing that the increased traffic would damage their houses I think. A new road would need to be built instead to support the high levels of traffic and the heavier vehicles (trucks, etc. doing deliveries) that would pass through. As far as I know, residents proposed that a new road be built through the field just at the end of their estate, but apparently that option is not viable (not sure if it's an issue with PP or acquiring the field or something else entirely).

tatli_lokma

Thanks for that aniascor - I knew I had heard something about the level of traffic being a concern for the Moylaragh residents. Can't blame them really. The fact it was scrapped (even if only unofficially) is probably why they put in the bells and whistles (but no filter arrow) junction at Harry Reynolds road!

Benjy

The revised proposal for the link road was on display in the library last Oct / Nov.

http://www.balbriggan.info/public_display_of_proposed_castlemill_link_road_oct12.shtml

tatli_lokma

Yes this is the proposal I was talking about - I thought it had also received objections from Moylaragh residents as it will increase traffic in those parts of the estate, whereas at present those sections of the estate are cul de sacs and get no passing traffic.

Bluetonic

Little Ted wrote: »

it will increase traffic in those parts of the estate, whereas at present those sections of the estate are cul de sacs and get no passing traffic.

These plans introduce more cul de sacs and do not open any cul de sacs to through traffic.

Have you seen the plans?

tatli_lokma

Yes I have looked. I know the cul de sacs remain cul de sacs and there is no through traffic through those roads. But the new road runs parallel to moylaragh gardens and crescent. I had heard from a friend living in moylaragh that many of the residents still object to it for the reasons aniascor mentions - i.e. the vibration causing damage to the houses, which by all accounts are not the best put together houses in the first place. I'm not sure how successful they were with there continued objections to the works.

F1 fanatic

Below is a link to the revised road connection between the Naul Rd and Moylaragh

http://www.fingalcoco.ie/Planning/PlanningItemsOnDisplay/PlanningItemsPreviouslyonDisplay/Previouslyondisplay2010-2017/Other/Part8-ProposedCastleMillLinkRoad/Map.pdf

tatli_lokma

that's the same one that I looked at - and it is the one referenced to on the balbriggan.info site. The new road runs parallel to moylaragh gardens and crescent.