Restricting a Honda 50!

gozunda

Relative has a M licence - is looking to heading out on a restored Honda 50

The M licence is resricted for mopeds under 50 cc and that dont exceed 45 kmph

Is it possible to get the Honda 50 restricted so they can ride it legally?

serious3

gozunda wrote: »

Relative has a M licence - is looking to heading out on a restored Honda 50

The M licence is resricted for mopeds under 50 cc and that dont exceed 45 kmph

Is it possible to get the Honda 50 restricted so they can ride it legally?

wouldnt give it a thought! you'd be awful unlucky to find a guard that would do you for it tbh

Wonda-Boy

Just wear an extra pair of socks that will do it

gozunda

serious3 wrote: »

wouldnt give it a thought! you'd be awful unlucky to find a guard that would do you for it tbh

I think the insurance may be an issue though....

P0rn0King

coolhull

Wonda-Boy wrote: »

Just wear an extra pair of socks that will do it

And fit a roof rack

aujopimur

It needs to fully auto, as it has a gearshift it's not drivable on an M licence.

Del2005

aujopimur wrote: »

It needs to fully auto, as it has a gearshift it's not drivable on an M licence.

Where did you get that idea?


There's no mention here or here about auto.

The only way to get an M licence for auto only is to do the test on an auto. But that's the same for all licence categories.

OP have you tried any of the Cub forums?

gipi

Not sure that restricting it will be enough - it might meet the low speed (45kph) requirement, but it'll still be a 50cc engine, which is not what the M or AM licence covers?

aujopimur

Del2005 wrote: »

Where did you get that idea?


There's no mention here or here about auto.

The only way to get an M licence for auto only is to do the test on an auto. But that's the same for all licence categories.

OP have you tried any of the Cub forums?

M licence is for a moped, twist and go.
A Honda 50 is not a moped as it only has an auto clutch.

gozunda

gipi wrote: »

Not sure that restricting it will be enough - it might meet the low speed (45kph) requirement, but it'll still be a 50cc engine, which is not what the M or AM licence covers?

So the M licence is stated for

"Mopeds up to 50cc and 45kmh"

Does up to include the 50 or is it therefore 1 cc over the limit?

And is the Honda actually a Moped?

It here appears to be all types of conflicting info out there tbh

Yikes who would ever thought Honda 50's could be so problematic

Del2005

aujopimur wrote: »

M licence is for a moped, twist and go.
A Honda 50 is not a moped as it only has an auto clutch.

Please provide a link to back this up. I've shown 2 from the RSA, the old and new licencing laws, which have no mention of it needing to be auto to be a moped. All you've done is say the same thing twice.

Just because most mopeds sold in Ireland recently have been of the twist and go variety doesn't mean that geared bikes which are <49cc and can't exceed 45km/h aren't mopeds.

Del2005

gozunda wrote: »

So the M licence is stated for

"Mopeds up to 50cc and 45kmh"

Does up to include the 50 or is it therefore 1 cc over the limit?

And is the Honda actually a Moped?

It here appears to be all types of conflicting info out there tbh

Yikes who would ever thought Honda 50's could be so problematic

It is a moped as it's 49cc, but if it can exceed 45km/h you'd need an A1 licence

gozunda

Del2005 wrote: »

It is a moped as it's 49cc, but if it can exceed 45km/h you'd need an A1 licence

So can the top speed be restricted to under 45 km/h so that it would be driven with a M licence?

goodlad

gozunda wrote: »

So can the top speed be restricted to under 45 km/h so that it would be driven with a M licence?

I very much doubt it tbh.
Even if someone manages to rig the bike so it cant exceed 45mph then ya gotta convince the insurance company about it.

Del2005

gozunda wrote: »

So can the top speed be restricted to under 45 km/h so that it would be driven with a M licence?

Most people driving twist and go scooters on M licences aren't licensed as they can exceed 45km/h and no one seems to care.

I've had a quick google and for the most produced vehicle in the world in appears to have very few forums. But it doesn't appear to be able to be restricted, you'll have to check around in a few moped forums to see if it's possible.

gozunda

Del2005 wrote: »

Most people driving twist and go scooters on M licences aren't licensed as they can exceed 45km/h and no one seems to care.

I've had a quick google and for the most produced vehicle in the world in appears to have very few forums. But it doesn't appear to be able to be restricted, you'll have to check around in a few moped forums to see if it's possible.

Thanks for the replies

I came across a few mentions that this was fairly common in the UK previously and was approved but nothing more recent

I would have thought with the number of Honda 50s out there it might have came up before....

goodlad

gozunda wrote: »

Thanks for the replies

I came across a few mentions that this was fairly common in the UK previously and was approved but nothing more recent

I would have thought with the number of Honda 50s out there it might have came up before....

I wouldn't of thought someone looking to restrict a 50cc engine would be common at all. Its like breaking a turtles leg because he is running too fast and ya need him to slow down.

goodlad

gozunda wrote: »

Thanks for the replies

I came across a few mentions that this was fairly common in the UK previously and was approved but nothing more recent

I would have thought with the number of Honda 50s out there it might have came up before....

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gozunda

goodlad wrote: »

I wouldn't of thought someone looking to restrict a 50cc engine would be common at all. Its like breaking a turtles leg because he is running too fast and ya need him to slow down.

It was to do with moped regulation & licensing over there.


Hence the restictuon

gozunda

Good lad - HAr HAr
You even took the effort to type in the auto signature - awe shucks !

But If that's supposed to be a subtle request from you - the answer is no thanks - ok. Hope you are not too disappointed but you got the wrong organisation I'm afraid. Don't worry I'm sure there is a man out there for you somewhere

Anway it should be the BTFBB- however I will give you a clue - it's some thing to do with firearms ok! Other than that I cannot disclose ...

goodlad

gozunda wrote: »

Good lad - HAr HAr
You even took the effort to type in the auto signature - awe shucks !

But If that's supposed to be a subtle request - the answer is no thanks - ok. Hope you are not too disappointed but you got the wrong organisation I'm afraid. Don't worry I'm sure there is a man out there for you somewhere

- I will give you a clue - it's some thing to do with firearms ok! Other than that I cannot disclose ...

The firearm in your pants? lol
Ah i just googled it and the first thing that came up was that urban dictionary link.

DanWall

Lets clarify, there is no mopeds today. A moped has pedals like a bicycle and an engine, thus the name motor/pedals = moped

gozunda

goodlad wrote: »

The firearm in your pants? lol
Ah i just googled it and the first thing that came up was that urban dictionary link.

Now now - none of your interest what I keep down there. Back away ok?

gozunda

DanWall wrote: »

Lets clarify, there is no mopeds today. A moped has pedals like a bicycle and an engine, thus the name motor/pedals = moped

So where does that leave the M licence and a Honda 50? any ideas appreciated....

Del2005

DanWall wrote: »

Lets clarify, there is no mopeds today. A moped has pedals like a bicycle and an engine, thus the name motor/pedals = moped

Not according to the RSA and EU, see my earlier post. I saw plenty of what you described on the continent last year.

gozunda

Looks like the Honda 50 is out for a M licence.

Yes - Max speed of 65 kph ...

From here

http://www.classicbikersclub.com/articles/2011-09/honda-c50-step-thru

See Honda 50LAC - restricted model

Hotblack Desiato

Off a cliff? :pac: