400m Swim TT - shave off those seconds!

interested

I just read in your blog

Just checking, 43k in 5 sessions or over 5 weeks ?

if its in 5 sessions then - without seeing the sessions - imho, there's more risk (of injury) than reward associated with that sort of dramatic increase in distance (you mentioned 35/40k per month)

if its over 5 weeks then - yeah, makes sense to step up volume over the next 5 weeks to come back down and sharpen up for early sprint races in the season.

Best of luck with the swimming.

peter kern

Oryx wrote: »

What do you guys reckon to our swim coaches pkan to get us swimming epic swim sets totalling 43k in five weeks? How doable is this for a back of pack numpty?

Epic is relative. If some elite triathletes swim 43 k a week and some even 60 a week
The question is to pull it back when overreaching starts. And of course how much intensity and how much rest
What most likely will happen is 80 percent get faster and the rest might even get slower

Oryx

peter kern wrote: »

Epic is relative. If some elite triathletes swim 43 k a week and some even 60 a week
The question is to pull it back when overreaching starts. And of course how much intensity and how much rest
What most likely will happen is 80 percent get faster and the rest might even get slower

Because for the 20% the overreaching is too much?

Theres a strong debate within the club over this at the moment. With most being recreation triathletes, (ie sprint distance for fun) it does seem a step too far.

NorthernRaider

Genuine question
Is it crazy to target a 20 minute 1500m as an adult learner? Would it take 10s of 1000s of kms base training and equal dedication to technique? Anyone done it? What is the 400TT mark at that level?

What would that swim level be in terms of running?



That's the question I wanted to ask you, Shotgun! You've come very far, but do you think you've hit a ceiling?

If you look at the typical distribution of the three splits for tri, there are fat tails only for swimming (i.e. There is a much bigger difference in times between the best, presumably 'baby' swimmers, to the very good, dedicated trainers, like yourself).

The fact that TI is mainly interested in good junior swimmers would appear to suggest that hard work alone in swimming will never be enough.

Are us hard-working adult swimmers forever going to be swimming against the tide!?

shotgunmcos

Hmm no not a ceiling. I'm just not doing as much focused swimming as I was. I have no real self imposed limits in the water like I do running. I swim so much more by feel. I still see lots of ways to develop more. Swimming is still new. Its perhaps something that needs a hybrid of intense focus and reckless abandon. Maybe its just safer to push yourself more often as the body holds up better than impact activities.

Are us adult learners always swimming against the tide? Yes. We fear. We think. If we can listen, let go and just go, we can surprise ourselves IMO

peter kern

Oryx wrote: »

Because for the 20% the overreaching is too much?

Theres a strong debate within the club over this at the moment. With most being recreation triathletes, (ie sprint distance for fun) it does seem a step too far.

when we go to training camps we do sometimes overrach by 50 %
its more important to take rest when its needd rather to worry about 20% overreach.
if you dont try to find the limit you will neever get the limit ...
also the intensity plays a part
5 x100 flat out off 7 min is much harder than 2 k steady ....
both require about the same time.....
and why not have an easy lane for beginneres and people that dont want to train
and as i said for a few people it can be to much so they can stop if they need.
you have 2 chouice you either trust the coach or you find one people trust.

littlemsfickle

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:26||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||


First go at this tonight, happy enough as I've mostly been doing pull for the last two weeks due to a leg injury.

vigos

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:26||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||


Had a first go at this after an extended break from the pool, lots of work to do!

peter kern

NorthernRaider wrote: »

Genuine question
Is it crazy to target a 20 minute 1500m as an adult learner? Would it take 10s of 1000s of kms base training and equal dedication to technique? Anyone done it? What is the 400TT mark at that level?

What would that swim level be in terms of running?

its bloody hard work to swim 20 for 1500 but i would say for 20% it is possible to get their .( as an example bella bayliss was a 1 07 im swimmer 5 years ago and got down to 52-53 for the Ironman)

400 m time for sub 20 would depend on many things milege, pool lenght, of course it very much depends on wetsuit or not ;-0
but at around 5 mim flat in 25 m pool for 400 you should be within a high chance in a 25 m pool . some people with 5.10.
and the best test to see your 1500 performace is .......to swim 1500 meter ....


in terms of running 20 min would be about be around 35min ( 39 for girls) for 10 k , . but of course again its much harder for an adult swimmer to get to 20min than to run 35 since when you start to swim after puperty its just so much harder to get your levers in the positon what you want to ( especially if you come from a rugby background)
its somehing what a lot of people forget when they get passed by kids that for them to get the leavers in the right positon is so much easier as its much easier for softer bones and tendoms to adjust to the needs of swimming.

in germany to get tri world cup starts you need to swim about 17,45 in a 50 m pool (roughly 17 -17.10 min in a 25 m pool ) and run around 31 on the track for 10 k for a guy.


'that TI is mainly interested in good junior swimmers would appear to suggest that hard work alone in swimming will never be enough'.

dodnt forget they also look for good runners which would suggest hard running will never be enough ;-)

it is something that has been changing over the last 10 years earlier on a lot of triathletes had swim backgrounds those days you look more for run talent that is good enough to swim first pack ( obviously with a swim background) which is the reason triathletes do get lighter and lighter. I guess at the olympic games you had 4 people at the podium that looked much closer to runners than swimmer and one of the atheltes thats looked more like a swimmer did not even have a swim background ( equestrian background and i guess some splashing in the pool ) but worked 9 years really hard on swimmng cycling and runing )


anyway enough of that to see real times of 400m tt s is much more valuable than talking about it

PGF

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:26||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||


This was my first ever 400m rep and was done in the middle of a session. Hopefully I'll be able to go sub 7 in a flat out TT.

mirrormatrix

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:26||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||

promethius

mirrormatrix wrote: »

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:26||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||

Longer (1km) warm up helped today.

StaggerLee

I did a 400 TT with my club in December, 50m pool, time was 7:37. Did another just there at lunchtime in 6:50. Well happy!
Also did a 200, in 3:08, down from 3:27 in December

Kurt Godel

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


11 sec PB tonight. I didn't go out like my usual bat out of hell, instead paced the swim much better, and held the stroke together (it usually disintegrates from half way). This one felt much easier than any previous I've done.

Abhainn

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


Over 24secs better than last outing, or equivalent 1 length of the pool.
An improvement of 1 more length of the pool might be achievable

jester1980

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


Feb was a bad month for swimming for me but knocked 12 seconds off by 20 metre pool time so i suppose its a start. Time to knuckle down and get the work done. Cant run with an injury so no excuses for not swimming at least 4 times a week.

MrCreosote

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


A little improvement although it's about 3weeks old now.

shotgunmcos

MrCreosote wrote: »

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


Easily the hardest I've pushed myself in over 10 years. Nearly passed out

Kurt Godel

Wow, that's some improvement MCOS, well done! You must be happy with that.

How did the pacing breakdown go, for each 100m? When did it really start to hurt? What's left for next month?;)

shotgunmcos

Kurt Godel wrote: »

Wow, that's some improvement MCOS, well done! You must be happy with that.

How did the pacing breakdown go, for each 100m? When did it really start to hurt? What's left for next month?;)

1:24 controlled
1:25 solid fire started
1:21 :eek: pushed hard into the danger zone
1:23 pure pain

More detail in the log

El Director

shotgunmcos wrote: »

1:24 controlled
1:25 solid fire started
1:21 :eek: pushed hard into the danger zone
1:23 pure pain

More detail in the log

:eek: jesus, that is close to perfection! Hats off to you sir, is there any limit to this progression of yours??

Tinder

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


Delighted with this time, think I can knock a few seconds more off as I have had a lingering head cold for the last week.

mickmc7

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|7.28||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||


I had a terrible month, unable to swim for the entire month until this week due to a neck infection of all things. As a result, a 400 TT was a non runner unfortunately. Roll on march, raring to go.

catweazle

mickmc7 wrote: »

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|7.28||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|6.40||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||

The first thing I noticed is that my beautiful top of the water form that used to last for 6 lengths before the lactate kicked in only lasts for 3 lengths now. However while the arms and legs were killing me and the form had gone - the engine was still going and the breathing was steady.

Came in on 6.40 on the nose to take 13 seconds off January's time. Delighted with this, while the distances I am swimming in each session is pathetic still, at least I have been getting to the pool much more regularly so that probably stood to me

GoHardOrGoHome

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|7.28||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|6:40||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||
GoHardOrGoHome|50m|na|na|10:35|||||


MCOS's story is very inspiring.

I was pretty appalled by 400m performance in UCD tonight.

10:35. Jaysus.

However I've just joined UCD so there's no excuse to getting in some regular swims.

Kurt Godel

GoHardOrGoHome wrote: »

I was pretty appalled by 400m performance in UCD tonight.

10:35. Jaysus.

However I've just joined UCD so there's no excuse to getting in some regular swims.

Fair play for sticking that time down GoHard. Jaysus is right;) but I'm only saying that because you'd be one of the faster runners on the table. Plenty of scope for improvement, watch huge chunks fall off that time over the next few months:)

enzeder

GoHardOrGoHome wrote: »

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|7.28||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|6:40||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||
GoHardOrGoHome|50m|na|na|10:35|||||
enzeder|25m|na|na|5.35|||||

New to boards. Was looking for others training for triathlon.
Wasn't much of a swimmer until about 2 years ago when I took it up 3 times per week with a group. My 1,500m time has come down from about 26mins in Feb 2011 to just under 22min a couple of weeks ago.
Did a 400m yesterday at the end of a session after seeing this post and managed a 5.35. Will be interesting to see if I can better it in the couple of months that are left before racing kicks off.

MCCOS - I think sub 20 is possible. I've seen an adult learner do it. He didn't swim until the age of 20 or 21 and is now 27 and did a sub 20 last year in the group I swim with.

GoHardOrGoHome

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|7.28||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|6:40||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||
GoHardOrGoHome|50m|na|na|10:35|||||
Enzeder|25m|na|na|5:35|||||


Hi Enzeder and welcome.

When you're repeating a table you need to remove the quote tags before and after.

e.g. "[ QUOTE=GoHardOrGoHome;83448198 ]" "[ /QUOTE ]"

Izoard

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Kurt Godel|25m|6:50|6:35|6:15||||
pgibbo|25m|6:38||||||
BTH|25m|5:53|5:47|||||
Promethius|25m|5:04|5:06|4:58||||
Jackyback|25m|7:28|7:13|7:06||||
Bambaata|25m|5:40||||||
Griffin100|25m|7:20||||||
Griffin100|50m|7:35|8.20|||||
Izoard|25m|7:36|7.39|7.33||||
EC1000|25m|7:14||||||
shotgunmcos|50m|5:42|5:41|5:33||||
Basster|25m||7:50||||||
Solobally8|25m|9:38|9:03|||||
Verbatim92|25m|7:05|6:53|||||
MrCreosote|25m||7.06|6.57||||
MickMc|25m||7.28|7.28||||
Fazz|25m|5:50||||||
Catweazle|18m||6.52|6:40||||
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||
Valerie|50m||7.02|||||
RQ|33m|-|7:40|||||
RQ|20m|-|-|7:19||||
Oryx|25m|-|8.20|||||
dx22|20m|-|5:57|||||
Tunney|25m|na|6:51|||||
jester1980|50m|na|8.10|||||
jester1980|20m|na|8.25|8.12||||
BennyMul|50m|na|8:08|7:58||||
Abhainn|25m|na|7:10|6:46||||
Okane1|25m|na|4.35.80|||||
Dited|25m|na|7:44|||||
2old4dacold|20m|-|-|6.30|||||
littlemsfickle |25m|na|na|5:41|||||
vigos |25m|na|na|7:54|||||
PGF |50m|na|na|7:33|||||
mirrormatrix|50m|na|na|7:38|||||
GoHardOrGoHome|50m|na|na|10:35|||||
Enzeder|25m|na|na|5:35|||||

Fazz

Tinder wrote: »

Name|Pool Length|Dec|Jan|Feb|March|April|May|June
Tinder|25m||6.08|5.41|||||



Delighted with this time, think I can knock a few seconds more off as I have had a lingering head cold for the last week.

And so you should be!

Knocking 27secs off a 400m in the space of a month is surely unheard of?
Epic progress.
Are you a former fish just getting back into things or what's the explanation?

Well done either way!