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Run_to_da_hills

King Mob wrote: »

Yup just like how people in England and Australia are being hearded into camps since they gave up their guns... :rolleyes:

Difference is the British or Australian Government hasn't recently stocked up with millions of rounds of hollow point bullets or has set up concentration camps in the same manner as the United States.

The UK or Australia has not enacted such unjust fascist laws such as NDAA military detention which could intern its own citizens indefinitely without trial.

gibraltar

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

We only have to look back at our history books and see how previous communist leaders suppressed the masses once they foolishly handed up their guns.

you are aware that for about the last 35 years the NRA has been steadily taken over by the Republican party?

So all these pro gun stories you are posting come from a wing of the government and your happy to believe them, looks like you swallowed a nice big lie and enjoyed it.

gibraltar

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Difference is the British or Australian Government hasn't recently stocked up with millions of rounds of hollow point bullets or has set up concentration camps in the same manner as the United States.

The UK or Australia has not enacted such unjust fascist laws such as NDAA military detention which could intern its own citizens indefinitely without trial.

The hollow point bullet nonsense has been show to be rubbish many times in the thread you started about them, do you not read your own threads?

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Difference is the British or Australian Government hasn't recently stocked up with millions of rounds of hollow point bullets or has set up concentration camps in the same manner as the United States.

The UK or Australia has not enacted such unjust fascist laws such as NDAA military detention which could intern its own citizens indefinitely without trial.

And you have been told and shown time and time and time again that your claims about those things aren't actually true.
You just ignored the points as you always do when faced with reality.

You know you can't address any of the point people make to you. You know you are ignoring them. You know you are being dishonest and twisting facts and lying to construct your fantasies.
Yet you continue.
Why? Why continue to claim all of these things when you know they aren't true Rtdhs? Why do you have to be so abjectly dishonest and obtuse?

Run_to_da_hills

gibraltar wrote: »

The hollow point bullet nonsense has been show to be rubbish many times in the thread you started about them, do you not read your own threads?

King Mob wrote: »

And you have been told and shown time and time and time again that your claims about those things aren't actually true.
You just ignored the points as you always do when faced with reality.

You know you can't address any of the point people make to you. You know you are ignoring them. You know you are being dishonest and twisting facts and lying to construct your fantasies.
Yet you continue.
Why? Why continue to claim all of these things when you know they aren't true Rtdhs? Why do you have to be so abjectly dishonest and obtuse?

Both of you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

This has been documented umpteen times concerning the hollow point rounds which have yet to be used.

Regarding NDAA.

Senate Approves Indefinite Military Detention of U.S. Citizens in U.S. (Article 27th Dec 2012)

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which was used two years ago to allow the government to indefinitely detain anyone, including U.S. citizens, has been approved again by the U.S. Senate. This time, however, lawmakers had the chance to add protections for Americans accused of terrorist ties, and decided against it.

A group of Democrats and Republicans pushed for an amendment to the NDAA that would have prohibited the military from detaining American citizens on U.S. soil. But then a House-Senate conference committee led by Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) removed the provision from the bill.

Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) blasted McCain and others for stripping away the amendment.

“We had protection in this bill. We passed an amendment that specifically said if you were an American citizen or here legally in the country, you would get a trial by jury,” Paul said. “It’s been removed because they want the ability to hold American citizens without trial in our country. This is so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it can’t go unnoticed.”

Minus the amendment, the NDAA easily cleared the Senate on a vote of 81-14. It now goes to President Barack Obama for his signature.

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/senate-approves-indefinite-military-detention-of-us-citizens-in-us-121226?news=846586

Duiske

gnfnrhead wrote: »

How many people in Ireland, that arent criminals, have guns? I'd hazard a guess that it is very few.

There are roughly 233,000 privately owned and licensed firearms in Ireland. (177,000 shotguns, 54,000 rifles and about 2,000 handguns.) A recent guesstimate put the number of unlicensed firearms in the country at about 150,000.

King Mob

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Both of you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

Rtdhs, you know that these thread you start have people's responses on them right?
And that these people have pointed out to you again and again the holes in your theory right?
And that you avoid these points without answering them and pretend they don't exist?

Well you see in the real world this generally is not rational or honest behaviour and means that your claims are nonsense.
Repeating the claims does not make them real or address the points you ignore. It just makes you look like you can't handle reality.

partyatmygaff

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

We only have to look back at our history books and see how previous communist leaders suppressed the masses once they foolishly handed up their guns.

America isn't communist, fascist or a dictatorship.

The very fact that America harbours so many conspiracy nuts making up insane stories about the government and criticising them at every given moment is testament to the freedom the US affords its citizens.

A good rule of thumb that you ought to keep in mind... if you can publicly criticise your government without fear, you're free.

Run_to_da_hills

partyatmygaff wrote: »

America isn't communist, fascist or a dictatorship.

That's the illusion bubble that they like people to believe in.

The barber of chewbacca

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

That's the illusion bubble that they like people to believe in.

Can I ask you an honest question? Have you ever read a conspiracy theory regarding the NWO that you did not believe?

gibraltar

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Both of you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

This has been documented umpteen times concerning the hollow point rounds which have yet to be used.

Regarding NDAA.

Senate Approves Indefinite Military Detention of U.S. Citizens in U.S. (Article 27th Dec 2012)

The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which was used two years ago to allow the government to indefinitely detain anyone, including U.S. citizens, has been approved again by the U.S. Senate. This time, however, lawmakers had the chance to add protections for Americans accused of terrorist ties, and decided against it.

A group of Democrats and Republicans pushed for an amendment to the NDAA that would have prohibited the military from detaining American citizens on U.S. soil. But then a House-Senate conference committee led by Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) removed the provision from the bill.

Senator Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) blasted McCain and others for stripping away the amendment.

“We had protection in this bill. We passed an amendment that specifically said if you were an American citizen or here legally in the country, you would get a trial by jury,” Paul said. “It’s been removed because they want the ability to hold American citizens without trial in our country. This is so fundamentally wrong and goes against everything we stand for as a country that it can’t go unnoticed.”

Minus the amendment, the NDAA easily cleared the Senate on a vote of 81-14. It now goes to President Barack Obama for his signature.

http://www.allgov.com/news/top-stories/senate-approves-indefinite-military-detention-of-us-citizens-in-us-121226?news=846586

Again all of this has been refuted many many times, why are you not reading the responses in your own threads?

Posting a random link does not prove your case, also remember that you are contradicting yourself - in simple terms you are totally pro gun but anti bullet - a final question, you keep posting about the US goverment having millions of handgun rounds - how many rounds of ammunition are in private hands in America? - no need for an exact answer, to the nearest ten billion will do.

Daithi 1

Testiment to their freedoms ?? are you having a laugh ? say that to the thousands of occupy people arrested, pepper sprayed and assaulted for practising their first amendment.

partyatmygaff

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Testiment to their freedoms ?? are you having a laugh ? say that to the thousands of occupy people arrested, pepper sprayed and assaulted for practising their first amendment.

Freedom of speech is one thing and that's fine and well. Distribute leaflets, launch a campaign, reasonable protests, that's all fine.

What isn't fine is having a rabble of people who each hold completely different (To one another) and inconsequential and impossible demands disturbing the peace and interfering with the vast majority of people's lives for weeks on end.

Daithi 1

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Freedom of speech is one thing and that's fine and well. Distribute leaflets, launch a campaign, reasonable protests, that's all fine.

What isn't fine is having a rabble of people who each hold completely different (To one another) and inconsequential and impossible demands disturbing the peace and interfering with the vast majority of people's lives for weeks on end.

What a silly thing to say. You think rights should be snuffed out if there are to many people using them and if they are an inconvenience to government.

Its people with idiotic attitudes such as yours who deserve no rights.

weisses

partyatmygaff wrote: »

A good rule of thumb that you ought to keep in mind... if you can publicly criticise your government without fear, you're free.

Tell that to the People killed in the Kent state university massacre ... And yes that can happen again

partyatmygaff

Daithi 1 wrote: »

What a silly thing to say. You think rights should be snuffed out if there are to many people using them and if they are an inconvenience to government.

No, your rights should be "snuffed" if you're obstructing and interfering with the lives of thousands of people. You can't exercise your "rights" at the expense of everyone else and then say "FIRST AMENDMENT MAN! YOU CAN'T STOP ME."

A rabble of thousands of people with different agendas and sometimes impossible demands don't have the right to interfere with the lives of everyone else. If they want to exercise their right to free speech and protest, they can do so in a way that doesn't negatively impact anyone else.

Its people with idiotic attitudes such as yours who deserve no rights.

Whatever. What you think I deserve and don't deserve has neither any effect on me nor on reality.

Daithi 1

Holy shyte, listen to this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arQkivaRRWI

Full interview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3fTEZ4IVU

partyatmygaff

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Holy shyte, listen to this..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arQkivaRRWI

Shyte indeed.

First it's Obama and the NWO. Now it's Israel. Tomorrow it's going to be shape-shifting lizard people with links to the freemasons.

His theory in summary:
"Zionist" American media promotes violence
Someone becomes violent and kills people
IT'S ISRAEL'S FAULT!!!111!!! THEY'VE BEEN PLOTTING IT ALL ALONG.

Two major problems with this nutty theory:

1. Violence in the media is nothing new. Ever since the dawn of man; war, violence and fighting has been used as source material to entertain. Thousands of years ago, entertainment mostly comprised of stories whether written, illustrated, orally retold or played. Today, that has expanded to include films and games. The presence of violence in entertainment material is not a modern phenomenon.
2. If the first problem didn't exist, there would still be the issue that it would be the killer who should be blamed and not the big, bad zionist/NWO/freemason/lizard conglomerate who rule the media and the entire world.

Torakx

I love the shapeshifting lizard jabs lol
It makes all your comments after, much more effective and informative...
Who here has spoken about shapeshifting lizards regarding this CT but you.
Using mis-information from the "truth movement" doesnt seem a good topic to a discussion on global politics.

Did you consider the guy talking so openly about Isreal, was a front to make the opposition to Isreal look extreme and overbearing?
He may have mentioned some good points and may have also mentioned some other points to make the whole thing be discounted.
The average person watching the news has no idea about these games played in the media and politics.

Alex Jones might be an obvious comparison.

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

Tell that to the People killed in the Kent state university massacre ... And yes that can happen again

Those students were killed 40+ years ago. Technically the Japanese can bomb Pearl Harbour again..

Is it possible? yes

Is it likely/probable? no

Jonny7

Torakx wrote: »

Using mis-information from the "truth movement" doesnt seem a good topic to a discussion on global politics.

The "truth" movement? Now that's a whopper.

hooradiation

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It doesn't take much to go figure the pattern. :rolleyes:

Hey, rtdh - How does one amend the US constitution?
I'm assuming you actually know this, right?

You do know this and you're not just lying constantly to us. That wouldn't be very polite.

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Hitler disarmed Germany before the people were subjugated.

Not true
This is a lie you've told and been caught out on before.

Da Shins Kelly

Some of the posts on this thread are just utter lunacy.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Those students were killed 40+ years ago. Technically the Japanese can bomb Pearl Harbour again..

Is it possible? yes

Is it likely/probable? no

Your making little sense there

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

Your making little sense there

Your point appears to be that if something like the Kent Uni shootings could happen in a free country, then that could happen again today, correct? In the US millions of people criticise the US government every day without the slightest hint of fear. Why? because they have nothing to fear.

Hence that analogy carries as much weight as my Pearl Harbour one.

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Your point appears to be that if something like the Kent Uni shootings could happen in a free country, then that could happen again today, correct? In the US millions of people criticise the US government every day without the slightest hint of fear. Why? because they have nothing to fear.

Hence that analogy carries as much weight as my Pearl Harbour one.

No it doesn't but keep trying to convince yourself it does.

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

No it doesn't but keep trying to convince yourself it does.

Uh, feel free to show how it's remotely relevant?

Are we still on the topic of how automatic weapons are necessary to keep us from government oppression? or have we moved onto some other equally silly tack..

weisses

Jonny7 wrote: »

Uh, feel free to show how it's remotely relevant?

Are we still on the topic of how automatic weapons are necessary to keep us from government oppression? or have we moved onto some other equally silly tack..

I dunno i quoted someone with a relevant comparison and you threw in pearl harbor So you tell me

Jonny7

weisses wrote: »

I dunno i quoted someone with a relevant comparison and you threw in pearl harbor So you tell me

You quoted a 43 year old University shooting, not what I'd call a relevant comparison, but hey whatever.

Absolam

If you're offering students being shot by the national guard as a potential consequence of criticising the American government, then Pearl Harbour is a reasonably comparable one-time unlikely to be repeated governmental response to a stimulus. I'd have pitched Hiroshima/Nagasaki myself (taking the two events as a single response), but the Japanese government ordering an attack on American military assets is currently about as (im)probable as the National Guard being ordered to fire on peaceful protesters in the US.