So its Bliain na Gaeilge now is it.

ChrisOF

Most of us have heard of Seachtain na Gaeilge (Irish Week) in March which inexplicably lasts for two weeks. A strange time when Irish escapes from TG4 and can be heard on RTÉ, and is even spoken in the Dáil by more than just Gerry Adams.

It seems however that its not enough to have the Gathering in 2013, it will also be Bliain na Gaeilge (Irish Year)
Which is set to feature among other things people talking to strangers on the street in Dublin as Gaeilge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymjsAAyEykg

Even old English staples like Auld Lang Syne have been Irished for the occasion.

http://gaeilge2013.ie/auld-lang-syne-as-gaeilge/

More Info here: http://thecity.ie/2012/12/12/2013-the-year-for-celebrating-the-irish-language/

So what do you think AH, will you be dusting off your Cúpla Focal for 2013?

fasttalkerchat

Until age 18 I thought Auld Lang Syne was all in latin. I couldn't pick out a single English word.

WindSock

Auld Lang Syne can't be more Scottish.

Where To

What about us Donegal wans?

If a writ tha way a tack nobidy id unnerstan wan wort oota me bake.

donegal_man

Where To wrote: »

What about us Donegal wans?

If a writ tha way a tack nobidy id unnerstan wan wort oota me bake.

Ha ha that is so true, I remember when I came to Donegal first as a callow youth of seventeen I shared a house with a lad from around Raphoe and hadn't the faintest idea what he was saying for ages. I actually tried talking to him in Irish!:o

im invisible

fear snachta bán, hata ar a ceann, agus Sharon ní Bheolain, tabhair dom an caca milis

Grayson

ChrisOF wrote: »

Which is set to feature among other things people talking to strangers on the street in Dublin as Gaeilge

If they try to talk to me in irish, they'll have to excuse my french

Ihatecuddles-old

Grayson wrote: »

If they try to talk to me in irish, they'll have to excuse my french

I think I actually speak better French than I do Irish, so I really hope to brush up on my Irish!!

And yes, I got the joke :P

Iwasfrozen

ChrisOF wrote: »

So what do you think AH, will you be dusting off your Cúpla Focal for 2013?

opti0nal

ChrisOF wrote: »

So what do you think AH, will you be dusting off your Cúpla Focal for 2013?

Let's all remember to reply with 'Atari Jaguar' if those activists start harrasslng people in the street to speak Irish.

Tombi!

Used google translate:

From bottom to top the country

'S of the world will

The Irish are turning hand in hand

Auld Lang Syne night



Tweets

We Auld Lang Syne night,

Auld Lang Syne night

Turns out tonight with pride

Auld Lang Syne night



From Munster to Galway

'S on the North and around

Leinster all

Dingle voice will hit you

Auld Lang Syne night

Irish year can feck off.

An Coilean

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Used google translate:

Well there's your problem.

fkt

Irish = Money wasted.

/thread.

Deedsie

Ya ill give it a go... I know ill never be fluent in Irish, but I have a few words... Ill hopefully improve a bit, maybe help others improve. It's a massive part of our heritage and it should be guarded and protected in my opinion.

humanji

WindSock wrote: »

Auld Lang Syne can't be more Scottish.

You could deep fry it.

Sergeant

Don't see the problem with this. I wont' actually be participating in any event during it, as I intend to spent the majority of next year feigning outrage on online message boards and offering my opinion on enormously complex economic and geopolitical subjects that I know very little about, but I don't think it's a bad idea.

9959

Brutal Deluxe wrote: »

Used google translate:

From bottom to top the country....




From Munster to Galway

'S on the North and around

Leinster all

Dingle voice will hit you

Auld Lang Syne night

Irish year can feck off.

"Dingle voice will hit you"
Rubbish! "An Daingean voice will hit you", surely.

Next you'll be saying 'Bus Lane', always remember that at great expense and disruption to the English speaking people of Dublin (approx. 107% of population), it's LANA BUS!

Deedsie

Sergeant wrote: »

Don't see the problem with this. I wont' actually be participating in any event during it, as I intend to spent the majority of next year feigning outrage on online message boards and offering my opinion on enormously complex economic and geopolitical subjects that I know very little about, but I don't think it's a bad idea.

Great post...

gobnaitolunacy

ChrisOF wrote: »

Which is set to feature among other things people talking to strangers on the street in Dublin as Gaeilge

The linguistic equivalent of chugging?

Iwasfrozen

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

The linguistic equivalent of chugging?

Oh God I hope that gob****é from the video stays away from me.

RikkFlair

You'd be surprised how much Gaeilge you'd pick up when you're perving on the girls in Ros na Run or the TG4 newsreaders.

who the fug

RikkFlair wrote: »

You'd be surprised how much Gaeilge you'd pick up when you're perving on the girls in Ros na Run or the TG4 newsreaders.

If you have the content you will get the viewers , reckon them Spanish readers wives letters were worth an extra 10% to me in the Leaving

Anyway who going to help me fill out a grant application for porn site as Gaeilge

Why the hell not, it won't do any harm.

Wibbs

Sergeant wrote: »

Don't see the problem with this.

Ditto. If want to buy into it then cool, if you don't then cool too. It's hardly mandatory and it's costing us nothing.

opti0nal

Deedsie wrote: »

It's a massive part of our heritage and it should be guarded and protected in my opinion.

Should people be forced to speak Irish?

Tomk1

gobnaitolunacy wrote: »

The linguistic equivalent of chugging?

Really need to learn some Irish, how do you say feck-off in Irish?

opti0nal

Tomk1 wrote: »

Really need to learn some Irish, how do you say feck-off in Irish?

Don't encourage them.

The video was obviously edited, no doubt, leaving out embarrasing responses. Interestingly, the most eloquent response he got came from a Luas ticketing machine.

Iwasfrozen

Wibbs wrote: »

Ditto. If want to buy into it then cool, if you don't then cool too. It's hardly mandatory and it's costing us nothing.

It is costing us money, the money we give to Conradh na Gaeilge.

Peregrine

I love the way he asks everyone for directions and then walks the opposite way

Deedsie

opti0nal wrote: »

Should people be forced to speak Irish?

Who's forcing anyone to speak Irish? I dont get why you quoted my post and then asked that?

arse..biscuits

opti0nal wrote: »

Should people be forced to speak Irish?

Bit of a jump in logic there.

Iwasfrozen

arse..biscuits wrote: »

Bit of a jump in logic there.

Well should they be ambushed and pressured into speaking Irish by some randomer on the street with an agenda?

Deedsie

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

Well should they be ambushed and pressured into speaking Irish by some randomer on the street with an agenda?

Just say, i dont speak Irish and move along. I would encourage any new innovative attempts to promote not just the language but the forgotten parts of our culture. It should never be forced on anyone obviously but should be completely open and available to them should they wish to partake in all and any aspects of Irish culture.

K4t

A country without a language is a country without a soul...A language without a country is a language without a soul.

opti0nal

Deedsie wrote: »

Who's forcing anyone to speak Irish? I dont get why you quoted my post and then asked that?

A: The Government: compulsory Irish lessons for native English-speakers at school.

You stated:

It's a massive part of our heritage and it should be guarded and protected in my opinion.

I think it's fair to ask you if forcing people to speak Irish is part of what you mean by 'guarded and protected'.

somairle

It's a nice little campaign, if I wasn't currently learning another langauge I would brush up on it. I hope I get a chance to speak it during run campaign though

Wibbs

K4t wrote: »

A country without a language is a country without a soul...A language without a country is a language without a soul.

We have a language. Two of them officially(and others) and in one our record of important world literature is gigantic. Plus you better say that about all the nations of the Americas and much of Africa and the antipodes too, but it would be equally daft.

Deedsie

opti0nal wrote: »

A: The Government: compulsory Irish lessons for native English-speakers at school.

You stated:
I think it's fair to ask you if forcing people to speak Irish is part of what you mean by 'guarded and protected'.

Well I'm not involved in education... I doesn't really affect me that Irish is compulsory. The job of the government is to legislate on behalf of the Irish people and to uphold the constitution of Ireland. Irish and English have equal status in our constitution... It would be unconstitutional not to provide equal education in Irish and English. English is also compulsory, and rightly so obviously.

I understand some people have a vehement hatred for Irish for some reason... It's a useless language apparently... Waste of time and money etc...

Why don't people try to lobby their TD's and senators to change the status of Irish to a minority language!

I obviously disagree and feel that the Iridh language revival project could be a great source of national pride if we could be bilingual! I also think it might help future generations have a better ear for learning other languages...

NegativeCreep

Why must they always try and force Irish on us? If someone wants to speak it then go ahead but like leave the rest of us alone!

lightspeed

Im sick to death of people in this country acting like Irish is the native language of this country. Clearly the native language spoken by the majority of people here is English. What bothers me most is that it is mandatory for irish people sitting the leaving cert. Im thinking of repeating mine and although i got a C at ordinary when i originally sat the leaving cert a few years ago, I will have to resit it again if i wish to resit the Leaving cert. Why??
How is that moral or legal?

Plus it cleary gives foreign students an advantage over Irish students as most foreign students sitting the leaving cert will have experiance and knowledge of speaking their native language e.g Arabic or Polish. However, the same argument is probably made for irish students which is not the case. That may not seem a big deal but as far as im aware, CAO points are still pretty competitive in areas such as medicine.

I dont like the Irish language
I should not be forced to study it and never should have been.
It is a disgusting insult to democracy.
People make the argument that it would die out completely if it was not mandatory. If that is the democratic will of the people than hopefully that can one day be accomplished.

How can anybody agree with Irish being a mandatory subject say they believe in democracy???

That is clearly just hypocrisy

Deedsie

lightspeed wrote: »

Im sick to death of people in this country acting like Irish is the native language of this country. Clearly the native language spoken by the majority of people here is English. What bothers me most is that it is mandatory for irish people sitting the leaving cert. Im thinking of repeating mine and although i got a C at ordinary when i originally sat the leaving cert a few years ago, I will have to resit it again if i wish to resit the Leaving cert. Why??
How is that moral or legal?

Plus it cleary gives foreign students an advantage over Irish students as most foreign students sitting the leaving cert will have experiance and knowledge of speaking their native language e.g Arabic or Polish. However, the same argument is probably made for irish students which is not the case. That may not seem a big deal but as far as im aware, CAO points are still pretty competitive in areas such as medicine.

I dont like the Irish language
I should not be forced to study it and never should have been.
It is a disgusting insult to democracy.
People make the argument that it would die out completely if it was not mandatory. If that is the democratic will of the people than hopefully that can one day be accomplished.

How can anybody agree with Irish being a mandatory subject say they believe in democracy???

That is clearly just hypocrisy

It is, according to our constitution equal to English... If it wasn't taught the same way surely that would be undemocratic? You threw a bit of a wobbler there on an Internet forum where the opinions of posters means nothing! Can I ask, have you ever contacted your local TD's about it? If you are so passionate about it, seek to change it!

I just like the Irish language, would love to be fluent... Maybe someday I will have time to practice it a bit more. But for now I say fair play to the organizers of this campaign. I hope it is well received by most, and I hope those that don't like the idea aren't overly annoyed by it!

lightspeed

Thats exactly my point. According to the constitution it is equal to English but that is based on a fictional reality that Irish is spoken by a large portion of the country.

Im not sure whether to admire of pity your faith in Irish politics. If our beloved TDs are unable to influence the budget and cuts such as the cuts to the respite care grants, then what makes you think that any TDs could influence such a change in our education system?

Which union is going to support making Irish an optional subject resulting in job losses for Union fee paying Irish teachers?
None
Therfore which party is going to support such a move?
None.
So what would the point be in contacting your local TD regarding this nationwide injustice until there is a party established that is not dictated to by unions?
None

I would be happy to appreciate the Irish language if it was not forced upon me. There are people in the world that speak Klingon as a language but it is not spoken by many people everyday just like irish.

So why is Klingon not a mandatory subject?

Heres a link to other useless languages just like Irish that we could also make mandatory
http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-invented-languages.php

Míshásta

ChrisOF wrote: »

Even old English staples like Auld Lang Syne have been Irished for the occasion.

"Auld Lang Syne" is Scots. The title of the song is completely meaningless in English.

Here's another verse:

"We twa hae paidl'd in the burn
Frae morning sun til dine,
But seas between us braid hae roar'd
Sin' auld lang syne"

Do you find it strange that those words need to be translated into standard English to be understood by English speakers?

Auld Lang Syne has been translated into numerous languages, what is so remarkable about an Irish version being produced?

Poems and songs have beentranslated from English to Irish and Irish to English for hundreds of years. 1913 being declared Bliain na Gaeilge has no relevence to this longstanding relationship between the two languages.

Míshásta

who the fug wrote: »

Anyway who going to help me fill out a grant application for porn site as Gaeilge

Now that's an interesting challange.

Give us a few sample sentences and I'll do my best to oblige.

opti0nal

Deedsie wrote: »

It would be unconstitutional not to provide equal education in Irish and English. English is also compulsory, and rightly so

Why not make learning just one of the official languages compulsory? Let people choose?

Blackjack

lightspeed wrote: »

Im thinking of repeating mine and although i got a C at ordinary when i originally sat the leaving cert a few years ago, I will have to resit it again if i wish to resit the Leaving cert. Why??

This bit of your post is wrong. So is the rest of your post.

Best of luck with your repeats. Suggest you read the guidelines in full before you select your subject choices.

Deedsie

opti0nal wrote: »

Why not make learning just one of the official languages compulsory? Let people choose?

Ya, that seems fair to me... As long as it was either or both... Not just one or the other. No one should be forced to do anything they don't want too... Obviously people who dislike Irish should just ignore this campaign.

It is the responsibility of the Irish government though to treat Irish and English the same... Or else change the constitution. They are elected to protect and make sure the Irish constitution is the road map for the Ireland we all live in!

Cavehill Red

K4t wrote: »

A country without a language is a country without a soul...A language without a country is a language without a soul.

A soul without a country is a language without a, um, where were we?

Herb Powell

Chun a bheith macánta, tá fadhb ar bith agam leis an teanga (obviously) agus táim tuirseach traochta le na daoine ag tabhart amach gad stad. Yeah, níor mhaith liom an Leaving Cert nó an Junior Cert in aon chor, ach ní fáth é sin fuath a fháil don theanga.

Honestly, I just do not understand it. Nobody is being forced to do anything here, yet we still have people complaining.

Rayne Wooney

lightspeed wrote: »

Im sick to death of people in this country acting like Irish is the native language of this country. Clearly the native language spoken by the majority of people here is English. What bothers me most is that it is mandatory for irish people sitting the leaving cert. Im thinking of repeating mine and although i got a C at ordinary when i originally sat the leaving cert a few years ago, I will have to resit it again if i wish to resit the Leaving cert. Why??
How is that moral or legal?

Plus it cleary gives foreign students an advantage over Irish students as most foreign students sitting the leaving cert will have experiance and knowledge of speaking their native language e.g Arabic or Polish. However, the same argument is probably made for irish students which is not the case. That may not seem a big deal but as far as im aware, CAO points are still pretty competitive in areas such as medicine.

I dont like the Irish language
I should not be forced to study it and never should have been.
It is a disgusting insult to democracy.
People make the argument that it would die out completely if it was not mandatory. If that is the democratic will of the people than hopefully that can one day be accomplished.

How can anybody agree with Irish being a mandatory subject say they believe in democracy???

That is clearly just hypocrisy

In ionad a beith ag tabhairt amach ar an idirlíon faoi rud nach bhfuil chun athrú, cén fáth nach usáideann tú an t-am sin chun teanga dúchasach do tír féin a foughlaim?

Tá Gaeilge éasca mar ábhar má chuireann tú an iarracht isteach le bheith ionraic.

Cén fáth nach thaitníonn Gaeilge leat?

Stained Class

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

In ionad a beith ag tabhairt amach ar an idirlíon faoi rud nach bhfuil chun athrú, cén fáth nach usáideann tú an t-am sin chun teanga dúchasach do tír féin a foughlaim?

Tá Gaeilge éasca mar ábhar má chuireann tú an iarracht isteach le bheith ionraic.

Cén fáth nach thaitníonn Gaeilge leat?

Christ.:rolleyes: