Tipping the postman at xmas

barone

as a postie i can say that a friendly "happy christmas" is much appreciated ,and not go hiding at xmas so you dont have to be seen NOT giving a tip..

just say happy christmas, its free and its clearly remembered by us.
























HAPPY CHRISTMAS

SRFC

barone wrote: »

as a postie i can say that a friendly "happy christmas" is much appreciated ,and not go hiding at xmas so you dont have to be seen NOT giving a tip..

just say happy christmas, its free and its clearly remembered by us.
























HAPPY CHRISTMAS

Oi where's my new armani watch im waiting to be delivered a week now!

Sunny Dayz

In work we give our postman a box of sweets. He is always very friendly, takes his time on his rounds and always has something to say when he delivers the post even if it's just a comment on the weather or about football. When he is away on holidays we notice such a difference in the service, the post is earlier but practically thrown on the desk from the door, the guy on cover is in such a rush!

I only live down the road for work and if there is a parcel to deliver or sign for for myself or my husband, he knows he can bring it to me in work.

Great service.

cookie75

my postie has hidden parcels all over my garden with a note in the letterbox telling where he hid them, until he realised my in laws were living nearby then if we are not home he will drive to their house and drop it there, in fairness that kind of service deserves a gift at Christmas

mathepac

Odysseus wrote: »

An Post looking to raise the price of stamps has nothing to do with individual postmen and wishing them a happy christmas though has it?

Let's be clear here, I never said I would not wish my postman (or woman) a Happy Christmas, I said very clearly I wouldn't be tipping them; sorry you missed my point.

The reason is because largely the same number of people is delivering less letters and earning less revenue from it than in 2005.This is still An Post's core business (they have already failed as a courier company and a bank and we paid for that).

2005 letters core revenue index = 100
2011 letters core revenue index = 81.4 (Source 2011 Annual Report)

So all the individual Postman Pats (counter staff, delivery staff, fat cats, drivers, etc.) are collectively less productive than they were 7 years ago therefore they want / need more money for my stamp, therefore I won't be giving any tips, but I will wish all of them Happy Christmas.

Now wait for the "Oh but I'm just a postie, it's not my fault" responses. To which I might respond, "I'm just a paying-through-the-nose-for-a-so-so-service customer so it's not my fault either Pat, but Happy Christmas anyway."

TheUsual

T'ping is a place in China.

razorgil

livin out the sticks, up on top of a f**k off hill that's like everest, the postie has never failed us. he rings if he has something to be signed for and thinks we won't be there so he knows to leave it with the in laws a few miles away instead, where we can pick it up. worth anything to have such service, bottle of brandy last year, something similar this year, richly deserved....

pontia

your taxes pay their wages already,cop on you clowns

GalwayGuy2

Whatever about the post man, if you are in therapy don't forget to get you get something for your therapist; they have ahd to listen to the inner working of your mind for the past year!!!

Would that break a protocol? Don't therapists have to be careful about the patient developing a bit too strong of a bond?

Odysseus

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Would that break a protocol? Don't therapists have to be careful about the patient developing a bit too strong of a bond?

Taking a token gift is a strong bond?

General Relativity

eth2 wrote: »

Oldie but a goldie.

Yes. YES. Finally someone who says it right. I'm fucking sick of hearing/reading an oldie but a 'goodie'.

:mad:

/firstworldproblems

Odysseus

mathepac wrote: »

Let's be clear here, I never said I would not wish my postman (or woman) a Happy Christmas, I said very clearly I wouldn't be tipping them; sorry you missed my point.

The reason is because largely the same number of people is delivering less letters and earning less revenue from it than in 2005.This is still An Post's core business (they have already failed as a courier company and a bank and we paid for that).

2005 letters core revenue index = 100
2011 letters core revenue index = 81.4 (Source 2011 Annual Report)

So all the individual Postman Pats (counter staff, delivery staff, fat cats, drivers, etc.) are collectively less productive than they were 7 years ago therefore they want / need more money for my stamp, therefore I won't be giving any tips, but I will wish all of them Happy Christmas.

Now wait for the "Oh but I'm just a postie, it's not my fault" responses. To which I might respond, "I'm just a paying-through-the-nose-for-a-so-so-service customer so it's not my fault either Pat, but Happy Christmas anyway."

It wouldn't be a factor in deciding if I would give them a token gift at Xmas, well for me in anyway.

GalwayGuy2

Taking a token gift is a strong bond?

Hmm, I was more talking about if someone was suicidal, or had intimacy issues or was a sexual assault victim, or hundreds of other reasons. I thought the recieving and giving of gifts, to vulnerable people, could be construed quite differently. Meh, too much crime novels.

Galway K9

Where To wrote: »

Tips are welcome but not expected.:)

hmmm you wouldn't be a taxi driver

Odysseus

GalwayGuy2 wrote: »

Hmm, I was more talking about if someone was suicidal, or had intimacy issues or was a sexual assault victim, or hundreds of other reasons. I thought the recieving and giving of gifts, to vulnerable people, could be construed quite differently. Meh, too much crime novels.

Now we could have a serious discussion on it as your not 100% wrong; it is a question of ethics, but this is AH. I usually discuss the serious questions on the psych forum; but if you want...

Tom_Cruise

Tipping the postman should be made mandatory for every house owner.

They walk around delivering YOUR letters and bills EVERY day.

Means Of Escape

Wattle wrote: »

I've heard that if you don't tip the postman he comes and pisses in your letterbox. Likewise if you have one of those big fancy outside postboxes he comes and does a big curly sh1te into it.

supervalu and centra are ****ting in my post box everyday with their junk mail.

mikemac1

pontia wrote: »

your taxes pay their wages already,cop on you clowns

An Post is run as a semi state company, it isn't funded by taxes

Overheal

The postman can make a bonus when I do.

Thwip!

I gave the postman a present this year. I get a lot of awkward sized parcels and i'm not always home to get them so he leaves them in my shed for me. Goes above and beyond his call so he's earned it

Merkin

We've got a postlady called Jean and she's absolutely brilliant.Giving her a bottle of vino in the morning, I think they do great work.I'm a compulsive Amazon shopper and if she knows I'm away for the day and expecting a parcel she'll hang on to until the next day to save me having to pick it up.She's a legend!

mikemac1

The mammy gives our local postman 20 euro and a tin of Roses every year


It's different in rural areas, no house numbers and 10 different families called Ryan from pensioners to children, he has to know them all

Starts at 7am for sorting, home for dinner for an hour around noon, then out again and and finishes up around 4pm

keithclancy

Postman tipping ... like Cow tipping but more dangerous.

TheUsual

mikemac1 wrote: »

The mammy gives our local postman 20 euro and a tin of Roses every year

*puts on David McWilliams voiceover*
"If every house on the postman's route did this he would earn 20,000 euro for Christmas and be very fat in January."

mikemac1

Reading this thread about bottles of whiskey it seems most postmen are in danger of becoming raging alcoholics!

uck51js9zml2yt

Tom_Cruise wrote: »

Tipping the postman should be made mandatory for every house owner.

They walk around delivering YOUR letters and bills EVERY day.

and they get paid for doing so just like I get paid for doing my job.

selous

I find it all quite funny really, An Post get blamed for bring the bills, but yet it's NOT them that that use's the service, so not our fault.
Have a look at the address on any of the envelopes, ever wrongly address'd and still get it? An Post are paid to deliver PROPERLY and FULLY addressed mail, e.g, house number/name, road name, area, and post code, (if one)
(Not the area you wanted to live in but couldnt afford to buy, or the neighbouring post code cause it was nicer) This all affects the next day delivery that Com-Reg is demanding,) But you still get the wrongly/not addressed letter, BUT maybe you wont, if you dont be nice!!!!!

Supraman

selous wrote: »

I find it all quite funny really, An Post get blamed for bring the bills, but yet it's NOT them that that use's the service, so not our fault.
Have a look at the address on any of the envelopes, ever wrongly address'd and still get it? An Post are paid to deliver PROPERLY and FULLY addressed mail, e.g, house number/name, road name, area, and post code, (if one)
(Not the area you wanted to live in but couldnt afford to buy, or the neighbouring post code cause it was nicer) This all affects the next day delivery that Com-Reg is demanding,) But you still get the wrongly/not addressed letter, BUT maybe you wont, if you dont be nice!!!!!

Ah some sense here as regards the mail volumes and same post staff getting paid the same . That's not fully true , the routes were redesigned when mail volumes fell so an post staff on delivery now in general have a much larger area to cover . I'm working in an post myself . This isn't a post to say "poor postie" but I wonder how many of the moaners would walk 17-18kms a day covering over 1100-1200 houses in rain , snow ice etc . With a large bag on your back , people genuinely moaning because you bring them bills that they've racked up . Moaning you won't deliver to a neighbour , moaning that you do . Moaning you won't sign a reg letter/packet , moaning if you do . Same goes for hiding parcels around back garden etc .

In the christmas rush mail volumes probably increase 3/4 fold at least , there can genuinely be anything up to 50/60 letters per day badly addressed , this goes from no numbers to wrong numbers with no surnames , maiden names of wives with no numbers . I could go on and on . That's the reason a large volume of mail doesn't get to it's christmas destination . Try learning names of said volume of houses and sort out the jigsaw of inappropriate mail every morning as best possible . Try go beyond the call of duty because you'd like to think it makes a difference . Ya it is your job to deliver mail but it's not your job to be sherlock holmes . Those that go the effort of giving a good service do deserve appreciation .

Death and Taxes

sfwcork wrote: »

I was at home earlier and was asked to go to shop for bottle of whiskey for the postman. I thought this country tradition was long dead.i find it strange.surely his doig his job actually delivering the post.

Don't know the postman for the house.
gave the postman who delivers to the business a few quid, he is a good bloke felt he deserved a bit thanks.

crazygeryy

Swampy wrote: »

My postmen do not even attempt to deliver parcels. All you get is a letter to collect at the local sorting office.

Not a chance in hell of a tip.

i wonder is It anything to do with your grumpyness?
just asking.
i always tip the postman and the binmen

Sertus

chakotha wrote: »

My folks used to invite the postman in for a whiskey while he was on his rounds. I haven't heard of it being done in a while though.

That was when men were men. Now you'd have to give them some fluffy nivea gift set.

plein de force

selous wrote: »

I find it all quite funny really, An Post get blamed for bring the bills, but yet it's NOT them that that use's the service, so not our fault.
Have a look at the address on any of the envelopes, ever wrongly address'd and still get it? An Post are paid to deliver PROPERLY and FULLY addressed mail, e.g, house number/name, road name, area, and post code, (if one)
(Not the area you wanted to live in but couldnt afford to buy, or the neighbouring post code cause it was nicer) This all affects the next day delivery that Com-Reg is demanding,) But you still get the wrongly/not addressed letter, BUT maybe you wont, if you dont be nice!!!!!

i've read that a few times and can't make head nor tail. is it just me?

miss no stars

plein de force wrote: »

I find it all quite funny really, An Post get blamed for bring the bills, but yet it's NOT them that that use's the service, so not our fault.
Have a look at the address on any of the envelopes, ever wrongly address'd and still get it? An Post are paid to deliver PROPERLY and FULLY addressed mail, e.g, house number/name, road name, area, and post code, (if one)
(Not the area you wanted to live in but couldnt afford to buy, or the neighbouring post code cause it was nicer) This all affects the next day delivery that Com-Reg is demanding,) But you still get the wrongly/not addressed letter, BUT maybe you wont, if you dont be nice!!!!!

i've read that a few times and can't make head nor tail. is it just me?

Despite how people manage to accidentally or otherwise write the completely incorrect addresses on post (for whatever reason), the post still gets to you. This is through the effort of postmen and goes beyond what they're being paid to do, so being nice to them wouldn't hurt.

suicide_circus

when he starts actually bringing my parcels with him on his rounds and ringing the intercom so i can open the door instead of just posting the "sorry we missed you note", i would consider tipping. on 3 separate occasions i have been waiting on very important parcels and so was watching for the post man when the ****ers dropped pre written sorry notes and walked off, i ran out and the **** didnt even have the packages with them!!!!!!

Qwerty Dub

Did all the postmen go into work on their first day and suddenly get told they were going out with a bag in the rain? Is that not their job? Is that not what they signed up for?

They knew what the job was before they started and were obviously willing to do it for the salary they were offered. Not their salary + commission paid for by the recipients.

supackofidiots

to all those people saying the postman forgets to bring you mail, or always leaves a ''sorry you weren't in note'' , that sort of treatment is the kind you get when you don't tip. give him twenty quid at christmas and I guarantee those parcels will miraculously find their way to your door every time, he might even hold onto them for you and bring em the next day if you happen to be out.

fact.

Antar Bolaeisk

I don't even know what my postman/postwoman looks like.

peterk675

It's nice to be nice..

Father Damo

SRFC wrote: »

My postman delivers the post in his bmw so I dont think he need's my tip or is short of money :pac:

Has the postal service gotten so broke the drivers have to use their own cars now?

Witchie

Father Damo wrote: »

Has the postal service gotten so broke the drivers have to use their own cars now?

Seems so. My postman uses his own car or van. Have never felt need to tip before but bought so much online this year I feel I should.

Supraman

Father Damo wrote: »

Has the postal service gotten so broke the drivers have to use their own cars now?

vans are only distributed to posties on certain routes . High volume business mail customers and rural routes normally get them . Your average urban postie delivering within a reasonable distance of the delivery unit they work from have option of a bicycle or their own transport . No , fuel isn't subsidised by the company if anyone is wondering .

opti0nal

Where To wrote: »

Tips are welcome but not expected.:)

A tip is a way of acknowledging the person, rather than the 'service provider'. It's also a way of thanks if you think the person has done more than the minimum required.

padma

Postman gets a fiver once a year, pizzaman gets two euro, figure the pizza guy delivers in his own car and the cost of a taxi from the pizza shop would be more than the pizza bought is worth. Both good services

enda1

How are you all around to see these people during the day anyway? Surely most people never encounter these service people?

m'lady

Duberlin Chick wrote: »

Ah sure it depends on the postman I suppose.

My postman ignores me flat out everyday I see him. I refuse to stop saying hello to his face cause I've started to get a kick out of it. How someone's ignores a person greeting them face to face is beyond me.

He'll be thirsty this crimbo that's for sure!

My post woman is the exact same, she's one rude biatch! Will knock on door if I've to sign for a delivery and shove the docket in my face without saying a thing. She's a shrivelled up oul cow.. Now I know why- nobody would tip her with a bottle of whiskey!

Supraman

m'lady wrote: »

My post woman is the exact same, she's one rude biatch! Will knock on door if I've to sign for a delivery and shove the docket in my face without saying a thing. She's a shrivelled up oul cow.. Now I know why- nobody would tip her with a bottle of whiskey!

Must be a long time since you've seen your postwoman , items that require a signature are done with a scanner the last 12 months . A lot of offices have been redesigned in that time and there would have been an awful lot of changes as regards personnel on routes . She may not be there anymore.

Biggins

We have various postmen in any one week so we don't tip.

barone

i really wish those who say the postie just delivers sorry we missed you notes etc would complain to their local post office or mail centre.. doing it here wont achieve anything,least of all stop it from happening..

so far in the last ten days of delivery ive received 237 items incorrectly addressed which ive delivered to proper address , 95 % were xmas cards.

yes i counted,

new rules in an post state that if letter is not known at where it is addressed ,or not known by end of day receiving it, it gets returned to sender, and as in the case of nearly all xmas cards where there is no return address , shredded.


its not our job to decipher post, just deliver where addressed .



once again, merry xmas, supraman fellow postie especially you

Supraman

Many happy returns barone , whatever shall we do with the millions we've acquired on our postal runs at christmas ?

mathepac

Supraman wrote: »

... whatever shall we do with the millions we've acquired on our postal runs at christmas ?

Move them off-shore, declare them for tax, put them in a kitty for all to share (as in the private sector), give them to charity, top up my pension ....