quinn released for xmas

gustafo

i see old man fraudster quinn is being released for 3 days over the xmas, jesus that man must be laughing his hole off at the patetic justice system in this country, he gets 9 weeks of a cushy card playing sentence and then he gets a few days off for xmas.

a fcking disgrace of a country.

barney 20v

gustafo wrote: »

i see old man fraudster quinn is being released for 3 days over the xmas, jesus that man must be laughing his hole off at the patetic justice system in this country, he gets 9 weeks of a cushy card playing sentence and then he gets a few days off for xmas.

a fcking disgrace of a country.

Are you really supprised though ?
I'm not.... It's par for the course!

Skid

I am not a fan of his, but I wouldn't begrudge him getting out for a few days over Christmas.

wandatowell

Fergal Quinn is doin' porridge???

Up his hole

SafeSurfer

Joe, its a disgrace. Somebody should do something.

My name is URL

Is this for real?

Phill Ewinn

Gets out of jail just after world ends. What luck!

My name is URL

Skid wrote: »

I am not a fan of his, but I wouldn't begrudge him getting out for a few days over Christmas.

Why? What makes him in any way more deserving of seasonal release than any of the thousands of other criminals in jail?

donvito99

Thats it.

Cavan, you are now officially the refuge of fúcktards.

Gombeen wánkers the lot of them.

Lenin Skynard

Sure he might murder someone.

navara man

great new .

girl in the striped socks

I have no strong feelings towards Quinn one way or another but I have a feeling that no matter what his fate is some people won't be happy.

Duiske

My name is URL wrote: »

Why? What makes him in any way more deserving of seasonal release than any of the thousands of other criminals in jail?

He's not more deserving. He's just as deserving as the many other prisoners who will be released from jail for Christmas.

Skid

My name is URL wrote: »

Why? What makes him in any way more deserving of seasonal release than any of the thousands of other criminals in jail?

Seeing as they let Murderers and rapists out, I don't see why he shouldn't get the same privileges as violent offenders.

HondaSami

gustafo wrote: »

i see old man fraudster quinn is being released for 3 days over the xmas, jesus that man must be laughing his hole off at the patetic justice system in this country, he gets 9 weeks of a cushy card playing sentence and then he gets a few days off for xmas.

a fcking disgrace of a country.

It's hardly the worst thing that has happened in fairness. I don't see any harm in letting him out for the few days, he has not murdered anyone.
He can't go to the grandchild's christening.

franktheplank

Released where?

*goes to find rifle*

Gee Bag

My name is URL wrote: »

Why? What makes him in any way more deserving of seasonal release than any of the thousands of other criminals in jail?

Probably worth noting that as of yet Sean Quinn is not a convicted criminal

My name is URL

Skid wrote: »

Seeing as they let Murderers and rapists out, I don't see why he shouldn't get the same privileges as violent offenders.

Yeah fair enough.

Gee Bag wrote: »

Probably worth noting that as of yet Sean Quinn is not a convicted criminal

True, so how was he even granted compassionate release? Is there precedent (before now) for allowing those being held for contempt of court to be released temporarily?

Fulton Crown

Gee Bag wrote: »

Probably worth noting that as of yet Sean Quinn is not a convicted criminal

Indeed Mr.Gee.

It's also worth noting that this family has caused a 2% levy on insurance policies for the foreseeable future.

These fucking gimps have also reportedly tried to dip their greedy paws in the taxpayers pockets and disobey legitimate court orders.

Why anyone would have any sympathy fpr these greedy gimps is beyond me /

mikom

♫ Drivin' home for Christmas
I take look at the driver next to me
He pays my insurance levy................. ♫

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THcbQyFtCqg

maddragon

I don't know what the big deal is - shur that money was only resting in his account.

GoodisonPark

System bends over for Quinn.
Contempt prisoners do not qualify for temporary release , they serve every day of their sentence.

Hogzy

Since when to prisoners get out of prison for Christmas. What an absolute joke. Im quite embarrassed to be Irish right now.

dirtyden

GoodisonPark wrote: »

System bends over for Quinn.
Contempt prisoners do not qualify for temporary release , they serve every day of their sentence.

Can you verify this statement?

minidazzler

My name is URL wrote: »

Why? What makes him in any way more deserving of seasonal release than any of the thousands of other criminals in jail?

A Lot of non-violent offenders get released for the Xmas period. It means less prison officers have to be rostered on for Xmas day.

Ronin247

Fulton Crown wrote: »

Indeed Mr.Gee.

It's also worth noting that this family has caused a 2% levy on insurance policies for the foreseeable future.

These fucking gimps have also reportedly tried to dip their greedy paws in the taxpayers pockets and disobey legitimate court orders.

Why anyone would have any sympathy fpr these greedy gimps is beyond me /

Look very carefully at the 2% levy.... the majority of it is down to the fact that the administrators have no idea how to run an insurance company.

http://namawinelake.wordpress.com/2012/08/08/the-quinn-insurance-debacle-or-how-on-earth-have-we-ended-up-on-the-hook-for-over-e1bn-or-1-of-our-gdp/

read that article and you will see that we are getting f*cked again.Quinn is still a greedy bstard but put blame where it should be.

GoodisonPark

dirtyden wrote: »

Can you verify this statement?

Dáil Éireann - Volume 483 - 02 December, 1997
Written Answers. - Temporary Release of Prisoners.
441. Mr. Durkan asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the total number of prisoners who have not served their full sentence in each month since 30 June 1997; the categories of prisoners involved in this regard; the reason for the early releases in this regard; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [21575/97]
Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. O'Donoghue): It is not possible to provide the precise information sought by the Deputy in the time available. However, the daily average number of persons on temporary release in the period from 30 June to the 30 November 1997 was approximately 527.
All categories of sentenced offenders are eligible for consideration for temporary release except those imprisoned for contempt of court including civil debtors). It is long-standing policy, however, that persons serving sentences for serious crimes such as sex offences, importation or supply of drugs, armed robbery (including robberies where a syringe was used) and other cases involving serious violence are not granted periods of temporary release except in very exceptional circumstances.

Tom Joad

donvito99 wrote: »

Thats it.

Cavan, you are now officially the refuge of fúcktards.

Gombeen wánkers the lot of them.

What an ignorant post - generalise much do you??

Oh and he's not from Cavan - he's from Fermanagh but don't let that get in the way :rolleyes:

end of the road

Fulton Crown wrote: »

It's also worth noting that this family has caused a 2% levy on insurance policies for the foreseeable future.

These ****ing gimps have also reportedly tried to dip their greedy paws in the taxpayers pockets and disobey legitimate court orders.

Why anyone would have any sympathy fpr these greedy gimps is beyond me /

ah god father its terrable, god forgive me for using the laurds name in vane but jesus christ isn't it terrable
don't see a problem to be honest, it was a discrase what he done but fraud isn't exactly assault rape or murder.

end of the road

GoodisonPark wrote: »

All categories of sentenced offenders are eligible for consideration for temporary release except those imprisoned for contempt of court including civil debtors).

so violent or sex offenders can be considered for temporary release yet someone who ends up in jail for contempt of court or non-payment of a debt can't? it would be funny if it wasn't true. i suppose its good though that the policy is to only give violent criminals such release in exceptional circumstances, how it works in practice is another matter however.

Run_to_da_hills

Meanwhile that poor man that imported that bit of garlic into the country will spend the next six Christmases in prison.

Hogzy

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Meanwhile that poor man that imported that bit of garlic into the country will spend Christmas in prison.

Poor man???? Are you f*cking serious, did you not read the measures he took to defraud the state. I dont get people having sympathy for that guy. He purposely defrauded the state of €1.6m. He should be in jail. As should Mr Quinn.

EDIT: Are you being sarcastic? My sarcasm-detector aint working so great lately.

Run_to_da_hills

Hogzy wrote: »

Poor man???? Are you f*cking serious, did you not read the measures he took to defraud the state. I dont get people having sympathy for that guy. He purposely defrauded the state of €1.6m. He should be in jail. As should Mr Quinn.

EDIT: Are you being sarcastic? My sarcasm-detector aint working so great lately.

Which is worse, importing a bit of Garlic or fcuking up the country?

dirtyden

GoodisonPark wrote: »

Dáil Éireann - Volume 483 - 02 December, 1997
Written Answers. - Temporary Release of Prisoners.
441. Mr. Durkan asked the Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform the total number of prisoners who have not served their full sentence in each month since 30 June 1997; the categories of prisoners involved in this regard; the reason for the early releases in this regard; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [21575/97]
Minister for Justice, Equality and Law Reform (Mr. O'Donoghue): It is not possible to provide the precise information sought by the Deputy in the time available. However, the daily average number of persons on temporary release in the period from 30 June to the 30 November 1997 was approximately 527.
All categories of sentenced offenders are eligible for consideration for temporary release except those imprisoned for contempt of court including civil debtors). It is long-standing policy, however, that persons serving sentences for serious crimes such as sex offences, importation or supply of drugs, armed robbery (including robberies where a syringe was used) and other cases involving serious violence are not granted periods of temporary release except in very exceptional circumstances.

Fair enough.

I am not sure that is quite the same as the compassionate release Quinn is looking for. The only reason I asked the question is I am sure if the compassionate release quinn was looking for was somehow unprecedented it would be all over the press. I cant believe that every journalist/reporter/lawyer/the prison system would have missed this, but you picked up on it. I am sure if he gets it that it will not break any rule.

HondaSami

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Meanwhile that poor man that imported that bit of garlic into the country will spend the next six Christmases in prison.

I would not call him poor, well maybe a bit poorer than he was after paying the tax he owes.
I would say his sentence will be reduced on appeal and then maybe people can stop going on about him as if he was a saint.

Paul Begley, from Rathcoole, Co Dublin, was sentenced in March after he admitted that he avoided paying €1.6m in garlic import duty.

Hogzy

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Which is worse, importing a bit of Garlic or fcuking up the country?

Purposely labeling Garlic as apples so as to pay less tax and defraud Ireland of 1.6 million in tax. Yeah. Thats bad and justifies a prison term. Are you saying people shouldnt go to prison for tax fraud? ...Yeah thought not.

Im not saying I dont think Sean Quinn's actions are equally culpable or even more so. But that garlic importer SHOULD be in jail. As should Quinn.

TheUsual

Quinn released but they locked up the 2 boys that robbed his laptop from his car in Dublin last month.

Be funny if they were in the queue for food together in prison.

HonalD

Any bets on a little trip up north to get out of further jail-time..............................

Capt'n Midnight

end of the road wrote: »

so violent or sex offenders can be considered for temporary release yet someone who ends up in jail for contempt of court or non-payment of a debt can't? it would be funny if it wasn't true

It's so people who are in prison for not paying their TV license can watch the Queen's speech on the prison telly

goose2005

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Which is worse, importing a bit of Garlic or fcuking up the country?

He stole €1,600,000 in that matter. People go to jail for stealing a thousandth of that.

Wanderer2010

Hmmm, is that guy who got 6 years for the garlic crime being let out for Christmas as well? Somehow I doubt it..

EDIT: Just see he is not, what a country...

Rasheed

When will people stop comparing every jail sentence to 'the garlic man'? He basically robbed €1.6 million from the exchequer.

And before you say it's not a shadow if what Quinn did, his case is on going.

lukesmom

Totally agree. Sick of hearing about the 'garlic man' at this stage, it would leave a bad taste in your mouth

Wanderer2010

Rasheed wrote: »

When will people stop comparing every jail sentence to 'the garlic man'? He basically robbed €1.6 million from the exchequer.

And before you say it's not a shadow if what Quinn did, his case is on going.

Its more a comparison of how elite the justice system is. You can be sure if he had money behind him and was an active community member in well respected circles, he would get off with a fine, but since he had none of this he was thrown in the slammer. And we have a rich man who blamed a vicious sexual assual on cholesterol meds out in less than 6 months, of course people are going to compare the sentences when judges who are living in cuckoo land dish out their own justice..

dvpower

HondaSami wrote: »

He can't go to the grandchild's christening.

Plus an ideal opportunity to squirrel away some more of our money. A double whammy.

Boscoirl

Is Mick Wallace allowed out for Christmas?

dvpower

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Which is worse, importing a bit of Garlic or fcuking up the country?

Which is worse, sarcasm or idiocy?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Hogzy wrote: »

Since when to prisoners get out of prison for Christmas. What an absolute joke. Im quite embarrassed to be Irish right now.

It's being happening for quite a while now, certain prisoners are selected for it. They get released on Xmas eve and are supposed to report back on the 27th.

Guy:Incognito

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Which is worse, importing a bit of Garlic or fcuking up the country?

Obviously Quinn is worse than someone that imports garlic. But then importing garlic is a perfectly legitimate business. Defrauding the state is a different story though........

CruelCoin

Ah jaysus Joe!

Pal

Rasheed wrote: »

When will people stop comparing every jail sentence to 'the garlic man'? He basically robbed €1.6 million from the exchequer.
.

You're missing the point.

Begley, admits his guilt, pays his fines and gets an unbelievable six years !

Quinn robs everyone, denies doing any wrong and gets out for Christmas.