Malaga excluded from CL and EL

missingtime

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/protectingthegame/financialfairplay/news/newsid=1908817.html

Málaga CF (ESP): The club is excluded from participating in the next UEFA club competition for which it would otherwise qualify in the next four seasons (i.e. 2013/14, 2014/15, 2015/16, 2016/17). In addition, Málaga will be excluded from a subsequent UEFA competition for which it would otherwise qualify (in the next four seasons) if it does not prove, by 31 March 2013, that it has no overdue payables towards football clubs or towards employees and/or social/tax authorities, in accordance with the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations.

Málaga has also been fined €300,000. The prize money withheld on 11 September 2012 (as a conservatory measure) will be released.

The_Kew_Tour

Man City next please;):D

MUSEIST

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Man City next please;):D

Do man city owe people money too???

MUSEIST

MUSEIST wrote: »

Do man city owe people money too???

They might if their owners pull out.

The_Kew_Tour

MUSEIST wrote: »

Do man city owe people money too???

EH?

Sgt Pepper 64

Chelsea reinstated apparently

mike65

What?! Ah the dream tie is no more

LuckyLloyd

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

EH?

Seems like his question / point was crystal clear tbh. Going after Malaga is one thing, going after Man City will be quite another.

The_Kew_Tour

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Seems like his question / point was crystal clear tbh. Going after Malaga is one thing, going after Man City will be quite another.

Really? why?

K-9

mike65 wrote: »

What?! Ah the dream tie is no more

Its from next season?

MagicMarker

lol, I wouldn't get too excited. I'm sure they'll pay up quick smart now they know what'll happen if they don't.

LuckyLloyd

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Really? why?

Because Malaga have numerous creditors and employees who have been left hung out to dry right now this second. City don't owe anyone a cent.

Come on baby, you can grasp this.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Really? why?

Malaga are being punished for not paying their players/staff.

The_Kew_Tour

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Because Malaga have numerous creditors who have been left hung out to dry right now this second. City don't owe anyone a cent.

Come on baby, you can grasp this.

I never said anything about this been similar to Malaga.

But have they not been breaking the FFP rules for past few seasons?

Like magicmarker says I would not get too excited anyway. Kinda thought few hints of my first post gave that away. Hint Hint nudge nudge.

mike65

K-9 wrote: »

Its from next season?

Yep.

Why is it always the "rich" clubs that won't pay their bills? How rich are Malaga anyway, might they be Pompey in Spain?

Oat23

Delighted for them, down to the 4th tier too please.

MUSEIST wrote: »

Do man city owe people money too???

About a billion to some Arab fella.

LuckyLloyd

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I never said anything about this been similar to Malaga.

But have they not been breaking the FFP rules for past few seasons?

Like magicmarker says I would not get too excited anyway. Kinda thought few hints of my first post gave that away. Hint Hint nudge nudge.

Won't matter so long as they pay their bills, just you wait and see.

Sgt Pepper 64

missingtime wrote: »

http://www.uefa.com/uefa/footballfirst/protectingthegame/financialfairplay/news/newsid=1908817.html

its not just them, also

HNK Hajduk Split
NK Osijek
FC Rapid Bucureşti
FC Dinamo Bucureşti
FK Partizan

The_Kew_Tour

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Won't matter so long as they pay their bills, just you wait and see.

I know. I would bet on that too if im honest.:)

Xavi6

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Man City next please;):D

Plenty of uninformed thanking this as well. Sorry to disappoint lads, we'll be fine.

The_Kew_Tour

Xavi6 wrote: »

Plenty of uninformed thanking this as well. Sorry to disappoint lads, we'll be fine.

I know you will. Does not make it right. But so is life.

LuckyLloyd

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I know. I would bet on that too if im honest.:)

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Going after PSG or City is a completely different proposition, and would take a lot more balls than it does to sanction the mighty FK Partizan and the likes.

The_Kew_Tour

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Going after PSG or City is a completely different proposition, and would take a lot more balls than it does to sanction the mighty FK Partizan and the likes.

Agree sadly.

missingtime

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Going after PSG or City is a completely different proposition, and would take a lot more balls than it does to sanction the mighty FK Partizan and the likes.

Bingo. Malaga are an easy target IMO.

MUSEIST

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Going after PSG or City is a completely different proposition, and would take a lot more balls than it does to sanction the mighty FK Partizan and the likes.

This ban has nothing to do with FFP.

MD1990

Malaga owners have since the summer just stopped funding the club so that is the issue not FFP
which is a real shame because i think they were on there way to maybe challenge Real & Barca in a few years

missingtime

MUSEIST wrote: »

This ban has nothing to do with FFP.

" in accordance with the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations."

MUSEIST

missingtime wrote: »

" in accordance with the UEFA Club Licensing and Financial Fair Play Regulations."

Thats the official title of the rules under which they were punished but clubs that don't pay debts to other clubs have always been thrown out of europe long before FFP was even thought of (mostly tiny clubs). So yes, this has nothing to do with new FFP guidelines.

Bodhisopha

mike65 wrote: »

Yep.

Why is it always the "rich" clubs that won't pay their bills? How rich are Malaga anyway, might they be Pompey in Spain?

Malaga, the club, are being punished because their owner didn't receive the planning favours he believed he would receieve by pumping money into the local football club.

Sgt Pepper 64

People have more money than me, its so unfair

Lennonist

They have until the 31st March to comply.

SEPT 23 1989

City's owners lend money to the banks

Mitch Connor

Lennonist wrote: »

They have until the 31st March to comply.

that is to stop a second season ban.

They are banned from the next Uefa competition they qualify for (within the next 4 years). If they do not prove by March 31st they have paid all money owed they will be banned for a second season (within the next 4 years).

Liam O

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

City's owners lend money to the banks

So does everyone with money in a bank account. That's how it works.

dreamers75

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Going after PSG or City is a completely different proposition, and would take a lot more balls than it does to sanction the mighty FK Partizan and the likes.

Why would City and PSG get some sort of exemption? Malaga are in the ECA so Uefa obviously not bothered by that. So are Dinamo

LuckyLloyd

dreamers75 wrote: »

Why would City and PSG get some sort of exemption? Malaga are in the ECA so Uefa obviously not bothered by that. So are Dinamo

The value of the CL TV and Sponsorship, etc is more dependent on the participation of some clubs than others.

Jelle1880

I could think of several other clubs I'd like to see punished for their insane financial state.

But like LuckyLloyd says: UEFA won't like to punish them, as they have too much power.

ArmaniJeanss

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

The value of the CL TV and Sponsorship, etc is more dependent on the participation of some clubs than others.

I doubt City or PSG are anywhere near the small group of clubs whose participation a sponsor might consider essential to the maintenance of a deal longterm.

Mitch Connor

dreamers75 wrote: »

Why would City and PSG get some sort of exemption? Malaga are in the ECA so Uefa obviously not bothered by that. So are Dinamo

because it is easy for Uefa to ban a team for not paying money owed. It is a lot harder to ban teams for failing to meet FFP based on Uefa actually calling BS on, for example, the PSG deal with the Qatar tourism board. Uefa are going to have to nut up if they want FFP to work, and they won't. PSG will get away with it, and thus all other teams will see ways around the FFP regs and all will continue as it currently is.

Mitch Connor

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I doubt City or PSG are anywhere near the small group of clubs whose participation a sponsor might consider essential to the maintenance of a deal longterm.

Have a look into GAZPROM, their sponsorship of Uefa CL, and they ownership/sponsorship of Zenit.

eagle eye

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

I doubt City or PSG are anywhere near the small group of clubs whose participation a sponsor might consider essential to the maintenance of a deal longterm.

City have to be mightily close given all their spending and the players at the club.

dfx-

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Sounds fair enough to me.

764dak

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Basically UEFA are getting tough on a couple of the small kids in class who currently can't afford a pair of shoes. This is the mirage of FFP starting.

Going after PSG or City is a completely different proposition, and would take a lot more balls than it does to sanction the mighty FK Partizan and the likes.

Eh? UEFA have been doing it for a few years now. Mallorca was banned in 2010 from Europe.

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2010/July/30/uefa-uphold-europa-league-ban-on-real-mallorca/

The_Kew_Tour

764dak wrote: »

Eh? UEFA have been doing it for a few years now. Mallorca was banned in 2010 from Europe.

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2010/July/30/uefa-uphold-europa-league-ban-on-real-mallorca/

Ya, Mallorca are a super heavyweight in Europe alright!

Richard Hillman

Id love if Malaga won the Champions League now. This so called "Fair Play" crap can piss right off