Swansea vs Man Utd KO 1:30 SS1. Mod not #307

mark renton

Deleted User wrote: »

Lol. Sure it is. Luckily your opinion (genuine or otherwise) isn't worth a cent.

Hey, I'm just backing up fergies opinion with some facts

Turtyturd

Turtyturd wrote: »

You might have to try harder....I don't think he gets humour.

john47832 wrote: »

Hey, I'm just backing up fergies opinion with some facts

Hard to tell the **** from the ****e in this discussion.

Will I Amnt

Benimar wrote: »

I know that all 'real' fans must defend their team at all costs, be they Man U, Liverpool, Celtic, Rangers etc, but this is just a new low.

How can anyone take this 'attempted murder' seriously?? Ferguson over-reacted, big deal. It's his MO after a poor result. Why do people feel the need to defend a ridiculous statement just because of who made it?

If a Reading defender hit a Sunderland player in the head with the ball and MON came out and claimed it was attempted murder the entire site would be in fits of laughter.

I don't recall anybody saying Fergie was right in saying it could have killed him, it was a complete overreaction for reasons only he himself would know.

Fergie is being laughed at and made fun of so I don't see the difference in it being MON

killwill

Ah the definition of success. ABUs scraping the bottom of the barrel to try get a dig in.

CSF

I thought it was intentional. I'd very confident of that, and any blow to the head can kill someone.

Fergie doesn't link the 2 though so talk of Fergie accusing Williams of attempted murder is as laughable as the idea that it was attempted murder.

Williams has done something (slightly) dangerous in anger. He's not gonna get a ban, nor is Fergie. Move on.

Crash Bang Wall

john47832 wrote: »

Nah, he obviously tried to decapitate poor Robin and fergie is well within his rights to take this one all the way to the criminal courts

and also the trip when he got up was a penalty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApuRHCNrgEs

Williams isnt even looking at RVP......intent is questionable at best

Chancer3001

Fergie distracts the masses from Uniteds draw with Swansea.

Oh that Fergie, its almost like he knows what he's doing,

CSF

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Fergie distracts the masses from Uniteds draw with Swansea.

Oh that Fergie, its almost like he knows what he's doing,

Given United's recent form I doubt too much emphasis would have been placed on a draw in a difficult away game anyway.

mark renton

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApuRHCNrgEs

Williams isnt even looking at RVP......intent is questionable at best

yes, questionable

Benimar

cambo2008 wrote: »

I don't recall anybody saying Fergie was right in saying it could have killed him, it was a complete overreaction for reasons only he himself would know.

Fergie is being laughed at and made fun of so I don't see the difference in it being MON

The point is that no one would try justify the comments if it wasn't Ferguson. If you don't think some people are trying to do that, you should read the Man U thread.

Crash Bang Wall

CSF wrote: »

I thought it was intentional. I'd very confident of that, and any blow to the head can kill someone.

Fergie doesn't link the 2 though so talk of Fergie accusing Williams of attempted murder is as laughable as the idea that it was attempted murder.

Williams has done something (slightly) dangerous in anger. He's not gonna get a ban, nor is Fergie. Move on.

While I agree with you, if an argument is to be made re a blow to the head then surely the next step is to ban walls for "player safety" and make players especially keepers wear helmets

Benimar

killwill wrote: »

Ah the definition of success. ABUs scraping the bottom of the barrel to try get a dig in.

Nope, people are just pointing out that your manager made an idiotic statement, whilst also being well aware of why he did it. Every time Man U don't get the expected result he deflects attention.

CSF

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

While I agree with you, if an argument is to be made re a blow to the head then surely the next step is to ban walls for "player safety" and make players especially keepers wear helmets

Maybe it is, but I wouldn't be for it myself. A degree of risk is to be expected in most sports, I'm just against footballers increasing that level of risk on their fellow pros in unnecessary ways.

Iang87

CSF wrote: »

I thought it was intentional. I'd very confident of that, and any blow to the head can kill someone.

Fergie doesn't link the 2 though so talk of Fergie accusing Williams of attempted murder is as laughable as the idea that it was attempted murder.

Williams has done something (slightly) dangerous in anger. He's not gonna get a ban, nor is Fergie. Move on.

Ferguson should get a ban though in my opinion for his
"I know he is a young referee but dear me what a performance that was."

I think thats an awful comment to make and any other manager would be in trouble

CSF

Iang87 wrote: »

Ferguson should get a ban though in my opinion for his
"I know he is a young referee but dear me what a performance that was."

I think thats an awful comment to make and any other manager would be in trouble

I've seen managers say and get away with saying worse, if anything there is less discussion when the lesser managers say these things because nobody gives a ****e about Tony Pulis.

Iang87

CSF wrote: »

I've seen managers say and get away with saying worse, if anything there is less discussion when the lesser managers say these things because nobody gives a ****e about Tony Pulis.

nah we're going to meet a wall here. I think ferguson gets away with murder for comments about refs both before and after games where other managers dont but it looks like we both wont change our opinions

CSF

Iang87 wrote: »

nah we're going to meet a wall here. I think ferguson gets away with murder for comments about refs both before and after games where other managers dont but it looks like we both wont change our opinions

I agree with you to an extent, some other managers don't do it, but other managers do, and at this stage you nearly have to question the honesty of a ref to get a ban. Criticising refs in the after match press conference has become far more common place than it should be allowed be.

Duck Soup

Those new SAF categorizations in full.

Kicking ball at player = attempted murder.

Elbowing = attempted decapitation.

Tackle from behind = attempted crippling/attempted buggery

Shirt pulling = violent assault/attempted buggery

Time wasting = attempt to subvert the entire time/space continuum

Turtyturd

In the spirit of South Park.

J. Marston

Iang87 wrote: »

nah we're going to meet a wall here. I think ferguson gets away with murder for comments about refs both before and after games where other managers dont but it looks like we both wont change our opinions

20 October 2003 – Two match touchline ban and fined £10,000 after using abusive and/or insulting words towards fourth official Jeff Winter.[97]
14 December 2007 – Two match touchline ban and fined £5,000 after using abusive and/or insulting words towards Mark Clattenburg.[98]
18 November 2008 – Two match touchline ban and fined £10,000 after confronting Mike Dean after a game.[99]
12 November 2009 – Four match touchline ban (two suspended) and fined £20,000 for comments made about the fitness of Alan Wiley.[100]
16 March 2011 – Five match touchline ban (three plus the two suspended for the above offence) and fined £30,000 for comments made questioning the performance and fairness of Martin Atkinson.[101]

He talks a lot about refs but he doesn't get away with it. That's 15 games he's been banned for over the last ten years and he might get another ban for yesterday. I'm sure rival fans will say it should be at least double that but it's just dumb to say he gets away it.

The_Kew_Tour

Just my brief 2c on game yesterday.

I have seen some give Rooney a hard time, but he worked his socks of yesterday. Really did. Poor performance, but not from lack of effort.

Valencia was muck. De Gea is super duper. When Giggs was coming on you could actually see lot of United fans shaking their heads in utter disgust. Michu is different gravy. Not seen the Williams incident since and being honest I dont give a hoot at this stage.

Was enjoyable game though have to say. Liberty is a little peach of stadium. Class ground really generates a good atmosphere.

Its hard to fault Swansea though when you can by bottles of beer for £1. and they still have savage Kebab shops!! hmmmm Mixed Doner! yummy!!! Better then any Turkey xmas dinner.

michael999999

Most dangerous thing hes ever seen was it?

He must have totally wiped the court case where hes son Darren was convicted of battering hes wife and kicking her in the stomach!

You do make me laugh Fergie!

The_Kew_Tour

michael999999 wrote: »

Most dangerous thing hes ever seen was it?

He must have totally wiped the court case where hes son Darren was convicted of battering hes wife and kicking her in the stomach!

You do make me laugh Fergie!

Blatter

michael999999 wrote: »

Most dangerous thing hes ever seen was it?

He must have totally wiped the court case where hes son Darren was convicted of battering hes wife and kicking her in the stomach!

You do make me laugh Fergie!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20833433

"He should be banned for a long time because that was the most dangerous thing I've seen on a football field for many years.

Unlucky, better luck next year.

IvySlayer

So no comments were made about Rodgers after he claimed Gerrard was assaulted in the box vs Spurs?

Only Fergies comments are hyped.

michael999999

Blatter wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20833433



Unlucky, better luck next year.

So maybe he did see hes son so!

What is more likely to kill someone though, an inflated ball to the head or a grown man kicking a woman on the ground?

niallo27

IvySlayer wrote: »

So no comment were made about Rodgers after he claimed Gerrard was assaulted in the box vs Spurs?

Only Fergies comments are hyped.

Well I'm sure if he said Gerrard could have died from the assault it would have been hyped more.

Blatter

michael999999 wrote: »

What is more likely to kill someone though, an inflated ball to the head or a grown man kicking a woman on the ground?

What does it matter? Ferguson never compared the two incidents so I don't know why you are. Oh wait, I kinda do...

The_Kew_Tour

Who got Sky MOM yesterday does anyone know?

markie29

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Who got Sky MOM yesterday does anyone know?

i think it was Williams? im not sure though....and the comments made by Ferguson are funny but some people here are blowing it way out of proportion.

have a laugh about it and move on.

Blatter

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Who got Sky MOM yesterday does anyone know?

Kemy Agustien.

mark renton

markie29 wrote: »

i think it was Williams? im not sure though....and the comments made by Ferguson are funny but some people here are blowing it way out of proportion.

have a laugh about it and move on.

You seem to have that the wrong way round pal -> ferguson blew it out of proportion, the comments on here are funny...

markie29

john47832 wrote: »

You seem to have that the wrong way round pal -> ferguson blew it out of proportion, the comments on here are funny...

i agree..no need for those comments either from him.