Songs that me turn OFF the radio pronto.

Da Shins Kelly

Geo10 wrote: »

Ah GTFO even people who aren't Britney fans have to admit that that's one of the best songs of all time (and in my opinion- the best)

Baby One More Time isn't even Britney's best song, nevermind being the best song of all time.

Rihanna would usually have me changing stations too.

Geo10

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Baby One More Time isn't even Britney's best song, nevermind being the best song of all time.

Rihanna would usually have me changing stations too.

IMO it is and and according to most fans it is. Why does it top every single Britney Spears Top 20 then? It tops those that are measured in terms of sales and those that are measured in terms of a poll/ votes. She has some pretty close runner ups though- I'd say Womanizer, Gimme More and Hold It Against Me combined in 2nd! Though according to the last Britney Top 20 I saw on TV "Hold It Against Me" was #2 after BOMT

Da Shins Kelly

Geo10 wrote: »

IMO it is and and according to most fans it is. Why does it top every single Britney Spears Top 20 then? It tops those that are measured in terms of sales and those that are measured in terms of a poll/ votes. She has some pretty close runner ups though- I'd say Womanizer, Gimme More and Hold It Against Me combined in 2nd! Though according to the last Britney Top 20 I saw on TV "Hold It Against Me" was #2 after BOMT

Toxic is her best song.

Geo10

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Toxic is her best song.

According to you! :P IMO it'd be 4th after Oops at 3 and Womanizer/ Gimme/ Hold at 2. Her 5th best is probably a tie between Radar/ Slave 4 U/ I Wanna Go/ Everytime

gammygils

'My Hips Don't Lie' by Shakira :mad:

Reminds me of people with kids called Shakira

And their hips don't lie!!:rolleyes:

Jimmy Iovine

gammygils wrote: »

'My Hips Don't Lie' by Shakira :mad:

Reminds me of people with kids called Shakira

And their hips don't lie!!:rolleyes:

My cousin is called Shakira. She's 15 though. Hardly anything to do with the Shakira around today :pac:.

Britney isn't great. Pure manufactured songs. She was all right singing, but she's never impressed me live. She's past it now. Should just give up tbh.

Geo10

Because she doesn't impress you? That's an unfair comment. She's still the biggest popstar in the world right now and has a massive fan base. I'd die if she stopped making music but thankfully her legendary status means that won't happen She's had some of her most successful hits in the past few years, why on earth would she give up?

Eathrin

Geo10 wrote: »

Because she doesn't impress you? That's an unfair comment. She's still the biggest popstar in the world right now and has a massive fan base. I'd die if she stopped making music but thankfully her legendary status means that won't happen She's had some of her most successful hits in the past few years, why on earth would she give up?

She WAS the biggest popstar, yes she still has a massive fanbase.

She will continue to keep making music as she is a massive cash cow for her record label.

The reason she sold so many records is that her music is marketed to you in every means possible.
Because she was used to make catchy tunes that people would like, she became globally successful.
You can't understand why a song like "hit me baby" isn't universally loved by everyone because you love it, like the labels intended.
But understand, the music that sells best, is in no way necessarily the music that has merit to be named among the best of all time.

Your obsession with Britney, as you said you have been obsessed since the age of 4, is no different to children who became obsessed with McDonalds, Coca Cola, Apple or Abercrombie & Fitch. Not because they were the best food, drinks, electronics or clothing brands, but because of outrageous amounts of marketing.

Geo10

Eathrin wrote: »

She WAS the biggest popstar, yes she still has a massive fanbase.

She will continue to keep making music as she is a massive cash cow for her record label.

The reason she sold so many records is that her music is marketed to you in every means possible.
Because she was used to make catchy tunes that people would like, she became globally successful.
You can't understand why a song like "hit me baby" isn't universally loved by everyone because you love it, like the labels intended.
But understand, the music that sells best, is in no way necessarily the music that has merit to be named among the best of all time.

Your obsession with Britney, as you said you have been obsessed since the age of 4, is no different to children who became obsessed with McDonalds, Coca Cola, Apple or Abercrombie & Fitch. Not because they were the best food, drinks, electronics or clothing brands, but because of outrageous amounts of marketing.

She still is the biggest popstar :P Also plenty of singers are given very catchy songs and don't make it big, they don't have the pure talent and appeal that Britney has! For example Christina Aguilera hired Britney's biggest songwriter Max Martin (who wrote many of her biggest hits- Baby one More Time, Oops, If U Seek Amy, Hold It Against Me, I Wanna Go etc.) in a last ditch attempt to become relevant and commercially successful again like she used to be before many people lost interest in her. He gave her a song he'd originally written with Britney in mind, "Your Body", and despite its catchiness and how massive it would have been if Britney was given it- it was a relative commercial flop with Christina.
Also songs like "Everytime" testify to Britney's wonderful songwriting talent too which she doesn't use too often because she's busy almost 24/7. Still there's always a few self-penned tracks on her albums.
I don't think marketing is behind Britney's success either. I mean Christina Aguilera got the same amount of marketing and where is she now? (I know I keep using Christina as an example but it's just because they came out around the same time and she's kind of like a less talented, less successful version of Britney with a deeper, less appealing voice :P)
I think the best example of the lack of marketing needed by Brit is "Blackout"- possibly the least marketed album in pop music history. It got zero promotion, no tour to support the album and it was released when most people who claimed to be so-called "fans" had turned their backs on Britney. yet the album was a massive success, as were the singles. "Gimme More" and "Piece Of Me" (and the album "Blackout" itself) all topped the charts in Ireland for example. Britney has a raw talent which I can't see how people can deny. I'll never claim she has the best voice "technically" but I'd haaaate it if she was one of those high note/ belters- I love her voice just the way it is- in fact that's the thing I love most about her... her voice.
Anyway I'll stop talking about Britney now :P Each to their own right? :P

NIMAN

I can't get the radio turned over quick enough when I hear the words "shine bright like a diamond" in that annoying way of hers.

areyawell

Anything by Maroon 5

Da Shins Kelly

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

My cousin is called Shakira. She's 15 though. Hardly anything to do with the Shakira around today :pac:.

Britney isn't great. Pure manufactured songs. She was all right singing, but she's never impressed me live. She's past it now. Should just give up tbh.

Does she ever even sing live? I mean, her singles are almost completely auto-tuned these days. I think she's past it too. She's had a couple of catchy songs in the past, but she's most definitely a product and in no way a real artist. I think this discussion has been had before, but it's the songwriters and producers who are brought in to work on Britney's albums who are the real talents.

puddles and umbrellas

Any song by One direction, Jessie J, Ed Sheeran, the script - all their songs are overplayed

Geo10

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Does she ever even sing live? I mean, her singles are almost completely auto-tuned these days. I think she's past it too. She's had a couple of catchy songs in the past, but she's most definitely a product and in no way a real artist. I think this discussion has been had before, but it's the songwriters and producers who are brought in to work on Britney's albums who are the real talents.

Completely auto tuned? Don't you think that's an exaggeration? Listen to some of her recent songs- her last song that was auto tuned in any big way was 3 and yes she sang that live on her Femme Fatale tour without autotune. She doesn't need autotune you'll see if you look up the live version- it's just an effect she uses for creative purposes in some songs like many singers do.
Britney produced "Blackout", she wrote songs like "Everytime" and "Someday I Will Understand"; and co-wrote others like "Scary", "Ooh Ooh Baby", "Me Against The Music", "Touch of My Hand", "I've Just Begun Having My Fun" etc. Plus dont discredit her co-writing credits because, yes, I know singers like Rihanna are given these for changing around like 2 words but Britney is different. Many different songwriters have constantly called Britney a class act because unlike other pop artists, she won't take songwriting credit in songs she didn't write! One songwriter Heather Bright also talked about this and said this is the reason why Britney gets the best songs- she doesn't take any credit where she didn't actually contribute to the writing of the song in any major way. She gives credit to the other songwriters on her album. Also Britney is extremely talented. She doesn't need to write all of her songs to prove that because of her amazing voice, amaaazing performing and dancing. Anyone who's worked with Brit has always commented on how amazed they were at how absolutely involved she for with anything she was given and how much of a perfectionist she is in the studio. Will.i.am, for example, was amazed at how into the music she was and said she was more excited about it and involved in changing/ perfecting it than any other singers he has worked with.
Also I think is undeniable to say that Britney is the biggest ICON of the 21st century. Nobody has influenced music, music videos and concerts so much. Singers like Lana Del Rey, Selena Gomez, Lady Gaga, Cheryl Cole- in fact all of Girls Aloud, Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry etc. etc. have all cited her as their biggest influence. She even received the "Micheal Jackson Video Vanguard Award", the "Ultimate Choice" lifetime award, the "New Now Next Forever" lifetime award etc. for her massive achievements in really what is only the first part of what will be a very long career for her.
Like her or not, the Queen of Pop is here to stay and as long as her massive fan base continues to grow at the rapid rate us has been growing ever since she made her comeback in 2007 she'll continue to slay the charts, sell out massive worldwide tours, pick up awards left right and centre, and create more and more iconic music videos and stage performances

Geo10

Actually here I found that article written by Heather Bright in case anyone didn't believe me :P

I would just like to address one thing! The media is talking trash about how Britney didn’t write any of the songs on her album… HELLO! Wake up everybody! NONE OF THESE ARTISTS WRITE THEIR OWN SONGS!!!!!! Anyway… here’s my thing… and I feel VERY passionate about this issue. Britney could have come to me, like all these other A-list artists, and said…

“Hey, you wanna be on my album? I’m gonna need writing credit for that song AND part of your publishing even though I didn’t write anything! And then I’m gonna go on tour and gross $150 million in ticket sales and not give you any of that, even though I’m performing your song!”


I could rattle off a laundry list of artists who I’ve had that conversation with! And I’m on the other end like… “Oh okay… so you wanna rape me, but just with the tip?!” *Prince side eye* Britney’s the only artist I’ve worked with who didn’t try to take something that wasn’t hers. In my experience, from a business standpoint, her entire team is nothing less than a bonafide class act! If I ever have another song that she wants and another artist happens to want the same song… Britney will get it EVERYTIME! Why? Because she’s honest! And she treats her writers and producers with respect and dignity. An artist is nothing without a hit song… and a hit song is nothing without the right artist. It looks like the question I posed earlier just found its answer… maybe this is why 12 years later she’s STILL at the top!

Eathrin

Britney, Rihanna, GaGa.... Same thing. Nobodys picking on Britney alone. Most of these pop artists' music is not very good, though it sells well.

You'll find quite a lot of artists do on fact write and produce their own music.

arodabomb

Anything by the Script, especially that "HowmanythingscanIrhyme with Separation" song.

Geo10

On topic anyway apart from the obvious ones that have been already said like Nikki Minaj, One Direction, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber... I would actually switch radio/ TV channel if Adele came on. That probably isn't a popular opinion and it's not that I can't stand her/ don't like her like some other artists... I just feel that she is completely overrated. She's not THAT talented vocally and her songs are by no means great. Yeah I'd have listened to "Someone Like You" or "Rolling in the Deep" when she first gained popularity but at this point I'm completely tired of and bored with her voice. She's only a bit above average in terms of overall talent IMO and I think she's had her day and should gracefully slip away.
Again just to reiterate I do not hate her, I just find her music incredibly repetitive, boring and I don't think her voice is all that great

Jimmy Iovine

Geo10 wrote: »

On topic anyway apart from the obvious ones that have been already said like Nikki Minaj, One Direction, Lady Gaga, Justin Bieber... I would actually switch radio/ TV channel if Adele came on. That probably isn't a popular opinion and it's not that I can't stand her/ don't like her like some other artists... I just feel that she is completely overrated. She's not THAT talented vocally and her songs are by no means great. Yeah I'd have listened to "Someone Like You" or "Rolling in the Deep" when she first gained popularity but at this point I'm completely tired of and bored with her voice. She's only a bit above average in terms of overall talent IMO and I think she's had her day and should gracefully slip away.
Again just to reiterate I do not hate her, I just find her music incredibly repetitive, boring and I don't think her voice is all that great

A statement that could just as easily be applied to your ICON.

Geo10

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

A statement that could just as easily be applied to your ICON.

No Britney is AN icon, she has already achieved numerous lifetime achievement awards, completely changed pop music, sold over 105 million albums, had most of her songs top the charts in numerous countries and has an extraordinary fan base.
Adele has had a few sad break-up songs that did well in the UK and US.
Which one is more likely to just slip away? :P
Let's look at how their last few singles did in the US:
Adele: 1, 16, 63, 8
Britney: 1, 3, 7, 1, 6
Also Adele has had 4 singles not even make their Hot 100 :pac:

Also Britney is currently number one in 58 countries iTunes charts. Your argument is invalid :P

Jimmy Iovine

Geo10 wrote: »

No Britney is AN icon, she has already achieved numerous lifetime achievement awards, completely changed pop music, sold over 105 million albums, had most of her songs top the charts in numerous countries and has an extraordinary fan base.
Adele has had a few sad break-up songs that did well in the UK and US.
Which one is more likely to just slip away? :P
Let's look at how their last few singles did in the US:
Adele: 1, 16, 63, 8
Britney: 1, 3, 7, 1, 6
Also Adele has had 4 singles not even make their Hot 100 :pac:

Also Britney is currently number one in 58 countries iTunes charts. Your argument is invalid :P

Where an artist is in the charts can be linked in no way whatsoever to their talent.

Drake has had two number 1 albums. Does that make him one of the best rappers around? No it just means that he has a brilliant promotional team behind him and that the youth of today have no idea what good music is.

Freddie Gibbs, one of many artists that I could use as an example, is better at every single aspect of rap than Drake. The difference? Gibbs isn't as marketable as Drake. Simples.

I don't care if Britney is number one in all of the countries in the world, and on the moon, it means sweet eff all. She is probably slightly above average when it comes to singing. There are better out there.

Also, I don't rate Adele either. She needs to branch out and sing about other things. Same with Ed Sheeran. One can only take so much talk of depression and break-ups.

Da Shins Kelly

Jimmy Iovine wrote: »

I don't care if Britney is number one in all of the countries in the world, and on the moon, it means sweet eff all. She is probably slightly above average when it comes to singing. There are better out there.

Also, I don't rate Adele either. She needs to branch out and sing about other things. Same with Ed Sheeran. One can only take so much talk of depression and break-ups.

I'm not a fan of Adele's music at all, but she's definitely better than an average singer. At least she sings live and without the aid of theatrics (although the samey-ness of her performances makes her a bit dull to me). She's got a good voice, but the songwriting leaves a lot to be desired. Her lyrics are cringeworthy at times. I honestly don't understand people who think it's so deep and meaningful.

Britney, on the other hand, is a very average singer. And sales are not a reflection of of quality.

Geo10

Maybe sales aren't a reflection of quality in general terms, but when it comes to Britney they certainly are
Instead of me explaining why Britney is the best I'll let my favourite band of all time explain :P

I smile so much my jaw hurts everytime I watch that video :P They're all mega Britney fans and Mollie is so obsessed which makes me love her so much more! Mollie has posters of Britney not only in her bedroom but in her bathroom too because they wouldn't all fit in her bedroom :P Anyway in that video they explain basically why Britney is in fact the greatest popstar of all time.

My other favourite band of all time is Girls Aloud and they are all obsessed with Britney as well- but the biggest mega fan in that band is Cheryl

(BTW I was a mega fan of both GA and the Saturdays before I knew they were fellow Britney obsessives I guess I was subconsciously drawn to the Britneyesque quality of their songs, voices and videos )