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Who is Clara?
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26-12-2012 3:49am#1
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Another Timelord perhaps ? Although she has the same face 2nd time around so maybe not ?
Well, I wouldn't mind the same face thing toooo much. After all, David Tennant kept the same face by siphoning off some of his regeneration power in to his spare left hand before. And The Master had his same face after his resurrection, and he said he was stuck with it. But Clara wasburiedat the end of the Christmas episode, absolutely no sign of regeneration. But who knows
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I guess that's the part of you that forgot the Doc & Clara kissedPart of me hopes that she is the Doctors daughter, it'd be nice to see the character make a good return and certainly something quite new.
It's also partially explain his fondness for her.
For that alone I hope she isn't his daughter!
My own theory, mentioned in the episode thread itself, is that Clara's the one person, whose consciousness is split (but shared) across time & space. The old-series story "City of Death" did something very similar, where the bad guy was fractured across time; the same guy, occupying different time periods.0 -
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Well the Clara portion is after Lis Sladen (it was her middle name), so maybe see what you get when you eliminate that from the mix.
I don't think Clara's human, at least not entirely human. She believes she is, but I don't.
It was interesting that she started crying when she was handed the Tardis key, and she didn't know why. (Bit forward, Doc, sheesh)0 -
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There's a bit of a spoiler here so if you've not seen the episode known as "Asylum of the Daleks" (broadcast 1st September 2012) then read no further.
Clara Oswald is not only the same character who appeared in the 2012 Christmas Day special as a governess, but she's also the character who appeared in "Asylum of the Daleks" (shown below) in which you are kept thinking throughout the episode that she is an ordinary girl trapped inside the Starship Alaska which has crash landed on a planet full of Daleks. She keeps mentioning "eggs" and she likes to use eggs to cook soufflé to keep herself occupied onboard. But then you find out in the end that she's actually IS a Dalek and that the "spaceship" is actually the outer shell of the Dalek and that the "eggs" which she kept referring to was actually "ex.....ex....ex......exterminate!!". That's the episode in which Clara first appears.
The Doctor becomes intrigued as to how the same woman lived and died in two different centuries and begins searching across time for her, until he meets her again in 21st century London in "The Bells of Saint John."
Who knows what she is? The Doctor is supposed to be the only Time Lord remaining as the rest all died in the Time War, but maybe we will be surprised and find out that the Doctor isn't alone and that Clara is one of his kind.0 -
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Maybe she is a time lord? OK against that is that they can recognise each other straight away and when they die they regenerate and they have two hearts etc. But like pixelburp said she's scattered through time. Maybe if she escaped the time war by scattering bits of her incarnation throughout time she'd not be complete so would pass under the Doc's radar.
Now I'm getting my Nerd on.
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Good call TC, that sounds like a winner. To take that further, maybe she's a trap set by this Great Intelligence? A trap to lure the Doc all over time and space. Maybe the various "Clara's" are projections of the one Clara held by the GI, kinda like Amy was held while preggers? Though that would be too much of a copy and cop out.
Other notions? I know it's a stretch but could she be Romana? I only really say that cos if I was casting a new Romana I'd be looking at her. The attitude kinda matches too.
There's also another time lordy type out there, Jenny the Docs kid. Might be a connection there?
Now that Tennant and Piper are pencilled in for the anniversary ep, here's a wacky one, what if she's their daughter?. The reason there are more of her is because she's leaked through the cracks between the cracks in the other universe OK OK yea that is a bit *inhales morrocan woodbines* alright and it would mean he's flirted with and kissed his own daughter. Kinda. Plus she's not blonde, but maybe Rose wasn't either?
The external tardis phone ringing part puzzles me though. Yea Martha rang the Tardis, but I'm now thinking it was a moby in the Tardis? When Ecclestones doc was on the go that WW2 kid hyped up on goofballs/nanotech was able to call the phone on the outside. That flummoxed the Doctor IIRC. That's impossible kinda thing. The kid could call anything with a speaker. Given the title of the episode the phone may hold the clue? So if it is impossible to call that phone and twice the Doc has said it is(and twice he's been wrong, but got an explanation the first time) how did she do it and do it across time while she was at it?
Who was the woman in the shop who had the number in the first place? Can't be Martha. Rose? Again IIRC in one of the very first episodes of the reboot, didn't she ring the Tardis (inside)phone from her moby? I also seem to recall her moby ringing and on the screen was a pic of the Tardis and it's name, so it was ringing her and she stored the number so she defo had it(I'm going on memory here though and don't have the old eps so...). Given that Rose is coming back that would plug into that too.
Yep defo have my Whovian hat on today. For a nice change I'm enjoying the what if clues stuff too. I normally don't TBH. Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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I think there's definitely something familial about the way he treats her. He's being more of a protector than a Peter Pan type this time.
I'd say he sees a lot of Susan in her. The fact that she won't walk out on those she cares about (he had to force Susan to leave him). She's super smart and kind. The cheeky slant is different though.
I get the feeling that he's not mad about the flirting (although he rarely welcomes flirting from anyone).
I was reading the Eoin Colfer mini-story recently and the way he thinks about Susan in that is similar to the way he's soft for Clara.
If it wasn't for that kiss I would still be of the opinion that she and the Doctor were related, but I really really don't think they're going to have family members snogging in a BBC family programme.0 -
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I like this idea but I'm still hung up on the two missing year in your book.
Also all the ages are written the same, most peoples writing changes over the years.
Tzar Chasm wrote: »I think the Clara we saw in this episode is the original Clara Oswald because;
She invented the moniker Oswin
She acquired her L33t puter skilllzzz
She was given the phrase 'Run You Clever Boy and Remember'
so this is Clara-Zero, something will happen to her over the course of the series where her conciousness is spread across multiple timelines, probably as part of an act of vengance by an enemy of the doctor, seems as if Richard E Grants Great inteligence is shaping up to be the big bad for this series.
It's shown up as " TARDIS" on display when he called Rose a few times.
WTF... I maybe too tired but does a Nokia normally display "Silent", "Mute" or "Silence" as an option!!!!!
Also I'd rule out anybody in the below clip from know the direct number for the TARDIS or they would of used it.
On the note of the Doctor thinking it was impossible to call the external phone be was also shocked when River know stuff about flying the TARDIS that he did not, and she said he thought her, so the Doctor could of given her the number in the future and she then found away of getting to it herself in the past.The external tardis phone ringing part puzzles me though. Yea Martha rang the Tardis, but I'm now thinking it was a moby in the Tardis? When Ecclestones doc was on the go that WW2 kid hyped up on goofballs/nanotech was able to call the phone on the outside. That flummoxed the Doctor IIRC. That's impossible kinda thing. The kid could call anything with a speaker. Given the title of the episode the phone may hold the clue? So if it is impossible to call that phone and twice the Doc has said it is(and twice he's been wrong, but got an explanation the first time) how did she do it and do it across time while she was at it?
Who was the woman in the shop who had the number in the first place? Can't be Martha. Rose? Again IIRC in one of the very first episodes of the reboot, didn't she ring the Tardis (inside)phone from her moby? I also seem to recall her moby ringing and on the screen was a pic of the Tardis and it's name, so it was ringing her and she stored the number so she defo had it(I'm going on memory here though and don't have the old eps so...). Given that Rose is coming back that would plug into that too.
Yep defo have my Whovian hat on today. For a nice change I'm enjoying the what if clues stuff too. I normally don't TBH.0 -
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BaconZombie wrote: »It's shown up as " TARDIS" on display when he called Rose a few times.
WTF... I maybe too tired but does a Nokia normally display "Silent", "Mute" or "Silence" as an option!!!!!
It's a while since I've had a Nokia but pretty sure silence, as in to mute the call, was if no longer is, an option. I definitely had it on a phone at some point anyway...0
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