Has Ireland become Lawless

charlemont

The King of Moo wrote: »

You can find that happening in any country in the world. Nowhere's crime-free. It doesn't make Ireland lawless.
Do you know if these Somalian people near you think Ireland is a worse place to live than Somalia? Do you think they'd describe Ireland as "lawless?"

Obviously yea the sort of crime they would witness here would be quiet different to what they experienced back home, They wouldn't be here if it was worse than Somalia..
You and I and all the posters here know the type of people who cause so much trouble here and at the end of the day its all pointless trouble, Vandalism, Fighting, Car theft, Burglaries, Heroin use etc. The Somalians here can't understand why these idiots act like that when this country provides food and a roof over their heads, That's the only point I'm trying to make.

I'd say although most people don't experience violence here that's not to say crime isn't a problem here, It is. There seems to be a constant flow of small low key crimes happening such as burglaries and theft.

keith16 wrote: »

I'm not surprised given your location.

Haha, Class..:cool:

ColeTrain

While I wouldn't say Ireland is lawless - that's a tabloid description. I do think there is more and more crime surfacing, certainly around areas where it was never prevalent, rural areas in particular. Less employment equals more crime.

Stereomaniac

I just think we're a shower of bastards sometimes. For every good thing about Ireland, I feel that there is something that gets swept under the carpet. The nightlife can be quite dangerous.

Joe prim

Recent CSO figures show that cannibalism and human sacrifice are down year-on year in 2012 by 24% and 16% respectively, there was a small resurgence of mohawk-wearing renegadism in the midlands in the second quarter but this seems to have been purely seasonal and is now at negligible levels, so, in short, no.

Red About Town

Certain sections of Irish society have no regard for the law of the country.

The King of Moo

Red About Town wrote: »

Certain sections of Irish society have no regard for the law of the country.

Certain sections of the entire population of the world have no regard for the laws of all countries.

Stained Class

Nodin wrote: »

I strongly agree. Getting a 99 in Bray this summer was tough indeed.

I strongly disagree.:mad:

Those weapons would be inadequate for such a task.:rolleyes:

TheUsual

Joe prim wrote: »

there was a small resurgence of mohawk-wearing renegadism in the midlands in the second quarter but this seems to have been purely seasonal and is now at negligible levels, so, in short, no.

Typical Dublin 4 poster who has never even been to the midlands.
We are over-run with the feckers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4TdPxOXuYw

gbee

Red About Town wrote: »

Certain sections of Irish society have no regard for the law of the country.

You are right, we should all disobey the law equally, don't pay park parking fines, court fines, TV licences, car tax, insurance and throw the penalty points back at the judge.

One is ruled by fear, lose that fear an one cannya be ruled.

Nodin

TheUsual wrote: »

Typical Dublin 4 poster who has never even been to the midlands.
We are over-run with the feckers.

....just because they prefer hi-powered vans, they're no less deadly than the fancy bike lads.

Stained Class

Red About Town wrote: »

Certain sections of Irish society have no regard for the law of the country.

Of course they do & they think they're being smart with it.

We all know who they are anyway.

This lot, when they have kids. usually loads.

They almost always condem those kids into being thought of as the dregs of society.

They're not as smart as they think they are really.

Hootanany

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

im wondering would the scotman that said that to you, was he on about the nutters in belfast rioting over the removal of the british flag from belfast city hall and specifically refering to them rioting

He was a Irishman living in Scotland

An Coilean

Hootanany wrote: »

Was over in Scotland recently Old Boy from Ireland says we have become Lawless.
I kind of agree..

Lawless? Crime rates may be up slightly, but I don't know they could just as easily be down. There certainly has been no explosion in crime in recent times.
People hear about crime a lot more, media is much more available, and crime has been sensationalised to ever greater extents.

Crime is still an exceptionally rare occurance in the ordinary persons life though.

Annasopra

An Coilean wrote: »

Lawless? Crime rates may be up slightly, but I don't know they could just as easily be down. There certainly has been no explosion in crime in recent times.
People hear about crime a lot more, media is much more available, and crime has been sensationalised to ever greater extents.

Crime is still an exceptionally rare occurance in the ordinary persons life though.

I know

You would swear that cime rates had rocketed and there was no police in the country at all.

Hootanany

mango salsa wrote: »

I know

You would swear that cime rates had rocketed and there was no police in the country at all.

Are you for real this country is rife with crime.

charlemont

gbee wrote: »

You are right, we should all disobey the law equally, don't pay park parking fines, court fines, TV licences, car tax, insurance and throw the penalty points back at the judge.

One is ruled by fear, lose that fear an one cannya be ruled.

These are all things* that at one or more times I haven't paid.


Bar the parking fine as I'v never got one but when I do I'll play dumb..:cool:

eth3

Has Ireland become Lawless

Christ almighty and the four Saints what's this? The last bastion of hope for law-abiding drysh1tes?

Defiler Of The Coffin

Hootanany wrote: »

Are you for real this country is rife with crime.

Yet another thread from Hootanany where he simply repeats the same line over and over again without any facts or evidence to back his claims up. It's like arguing with a dog except the dog makes different sounds every now and again

Nodin

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Yet another thread from Hootanany where he simply repeats the same line over and over again without any facts or evidence to back his claims up. It's like arguing with a dog except the dog makes different sounds every now and again

I agree.

CastlebarMan

My crimes since xmas:
Drink Driving
Driving without Tax
Drug buying and selling.
One fight.

eth3

CastlebarMan wrote: »

My crimes since xmas:
Drink Driving
Driving without Tax
Drug buying and selling.
One fight.

Keep up the good work. The black economy is the best economy.

gurramok

CastlebarMan wrote: »

My crimes since xmas:
Drink Driving
Driving without Tax
Drug buying and selling.
One fight.

Expected in the Wild West!!

John Doe1

We have a few like
http://www.constitution.org/cons/ireland/constitution_ireland-en.htm

LiffeyValleyB

CastlebarMan wrote: »

My crimes since xmas:
Drink Driving
Driving without Tax
Drug buying and selling.
One fight.

Fighting isn't a crime... Neither is drug selling IMO.

Tom_Cruise

I have always found Ireland to be a very safe place.

Its at its most dangerous on a night out when its real busy - like a bank holiday. Always lots of fights and people getting attacked.(where i live anyway) I would say that if you took the alcohol out of Ireland then there would be very little violence or at least it would be significantly reduced.

The King of Moo

CastlebarMan wrote: »

My crimes since xmas:
Drink Driving
Driving without Tax
Drug buying and selling.
One fight.

You sound like great fun. I hope to never find myself near you while you're driving.

LiffeyValleyB

The King of Moo wrote: »

You sound like great fun. I hope to never find myself near you while you're driving.

Is that in case he tries to sell you some drugs?

gerrowadat

LiffeyValleyB wrote: »

Is that in case he tries to sell you some drugs?

Car fight!

Furious_George

CastlebarMan wrote: »

My crimes since xmas:
Drink Driving
Driving without Tax
Drug buying and selling.
One fight.

I dont like you very much.

pabloh999

Is Ireland lawless?
No, no it isn't.

beaner88

Furious_George wrote: »

I dont like you very much.

All victimless crimes.

The King of Moo

beaner88 wrote: »

All victimless crimes.

http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Campaigns/Current-road-safety-campaigns/Drink-Driving/

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0424/murphyb.html

beaner88

The King of Moo wrote: »

http://www.rsa.ie/RSA/Road-Safety/Campaigns/Current-road-safety-campaigns/Drink-Driving/

http://www.rte.ie/news/2006/0424/murphyb.html

If somebody is arrested for drunk driving who does the Garda mention as "injured party"?

If two guys have a fight, who is put down as injured party?

The King of Moo

beaner88 wrote: »

If somebody is arrested for drunk driving who does the Garda mention as "injured party"?

If two guys have a fight, who is put down as injured party?

The same answer for both questions: the dead one.

I sincerely hope you're a troll.

UCDVet

I don't know if I'd say 'lawless', but if I were going to be a criminal, I'd be happy enough to do it in Ireland.

I really feel like the laws here are very forgiving...and lots of things that are illegal aren't enforced.

I'm actually giving serious consideration to just not paying my rent. Not because I have any good reason not to pay; but because of the stories I've heard about how the eviction process works. Who wouldn't benefit from six months of no rent?

Grayditch

Are u for real wake up I agree.

beaner88

The King of Moo wrote: »

The same answer for both questions: the dead one.

I sincerely hope you're a troll.

Oh did the guy who originally brought this up kill two people? No. Victimless crimes so he is hardly scum of the century.

The King of Moo

beaner88 wrote: »

Oh did the guy who originally brought this up kill two people? No. Victimless crimes so he is hardly scum of the century.

How do you know? It's quite easy to die in a streetfight (impact from hitting the ground, for example) and alcohol is believed to be a contributing factor in 1/3 of fatal road collisions in Ireland.

How someone could claim that such crimes are universally victimless is genuinely mystifying.

And I personally consider anyone who drink drives, regardless of whether they cause an accident, as scum.

beaner88

The King of Moo wrote: »

How do you know? It's quite easy to die in a streetfight (impact from hitting the ground, for example) and alcohol is believed to be a contributing factor in 1/3 of fatal road collisions in Ireland.

How someone could claim that such crimes are universally victimless is genuinely mystifying.

And I personally consider anyone who drink drives, regardless of whether they cause an accident, as scum.

So you think I'm scum then? There are different shades of drink driver. There are people like me who do try to be responsible as possible and minimise the impact of whatever alcohol or drug we're on by being extra vigilant. Driving slowly with care.

Some countries allow drink driving but you will find yourself in far worse trouble if you do cause an incident or a death. If you don't cause any issues then it is not a crime.

Grayditch

beaner88 wrote: »

Some countries allow drink driving but you will find yourself in far worse trouble if you do cause an incident or a death. If you don't cause any issues then it is not a crime.

It's a real shame that the bad drink drivers had to ruin it for the rest of us.

Wait.. Hang on..

The King of Moo

beaner88 wrote: »

So you think I'm scum then? There are different shades of drink driver. There are people like me who do try to be responsible as possible and minimise the impact of whatever alcohol or drug we're on by being extra vigilant. Driving slowly with care.

Some countries allow drink driving but you will find yourself in far worse trouble if you do cause an incident or a death. If you don't cause any issues then it is not a crime.

I do, yes.

How effective do you think your efforts to be vigilant can be when you're under the influence of an intoxicant?

CastlebarMan

Everybody Drink Drives in rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody bates the crap out of each other in Rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody is on Drugs in Rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody kills there first daughter in Rural Ireland. Fact.

The King of Moo

CastlebarMan wrote: »

Everybody Drink Drives in rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody bates the crap out of each other in Rural Ireland. Fact.

Oh, that makes it ok so, as does the fact that no-one in Ireland's ever been killed in a fight or a car crash involving a drunk driver.

It's a sad day for a forum when you can't tell if half the posters are trolling or not.

mikemac1

CastlebarMan wrote: »

Everybody Drink Drives in rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody bates the crap out of each other in Rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody is on Drugs in Rural Ireland. Fact.
Everbody kills there first daughter in Rural Ireland. Fact.

Everyone in Castlebar worships Padraig Flynn

CastlebarMan

mikemac1 wrote: »

Everyone in Castlebar worships Padraig Flynn

You forgot to add the word FACT to that.

TheUsual

The Mayans were wrong. FACT.

old hippy

Hootanany wrote: »

I really don't get you
Criminals are taking over are Country and you are taking up about my spelling and grammar just saying Ireland is getting Lawless that is all I don't have an agenda what's your problem then.

Ireland is not being taken over by vagabonds and brigands but I would agree that your spelling and grammar is most certainly criminal.

Hootanany

old hippy wrote: »

Ireland is not being taken over by vagabonds and brigands but I would agree that your spelling and grammar is most certainly criminal.

Bog Orf

Annasopra

Hootanany wrote: »

Bog Orf

Wake up

Hootanany

I am awake.