Suspensions (5 yellow)

Pj!

I posted this in the fantasy football section but it's relevant here too.

This week every year is always a big week for suspensions because it's the last day that a 5th yellow card will cost one. There are always a lot of players walking the tightrope. (After today the suspension point changes to 10 yellows). Expect a few to be missing for the next round of games.
All of the following are on 4 yellows going into todays matches:


Aston Villa
Ciaran Clark

Chelsea
John Obi Mikel

Everton
Leon Osman
Phil Neville

Manchester City
Yaya Toure
Samir Nasri

Manchester United
Robin van Persie
Wayne Rooney

Newcastle United
Jonas Gutierrez

Norwich City
Bradley Johnson

Queens Park Rangers
Samba Diakite
Esteban Granero
Adel Taarabt

Reading
Mikele Leigertwood
Adrian Mariappa

Southampton
Morgan Schneiderlin

Stoke City
Andy Wilkinson
Stephen N'Zonzi

Swansea City
Chico Flores
Michu

Tottenham Hotspur
Gareth Bale
Jermain Defoe
Sandro
Jan Vertonghen

West Bromwich Albion
Claudio Yacob
Billy Jones

West Ham United
James Collins
Kevin Nolan
Winston Reid

Wigan Athletic
Jean Beausejour
Franco di Santo
Maynor Figueroa
James McCarthy


Bale is the first to go.

A Dub in Glasgo

He was wrongly booked today

Pj!

If he wasn't known for it it wouldn't have been yellow imo. But if that discourages divers then so be it.

Pj!

Red for Nasri

MrKingsley

But if the actual divers divers (defoe and sessengnon) werent booked then how does it discourage it. He was clipped and fouled. Penalty.

Its a case of the ref having a predetermined notion of what certain players are going to do which completely contradicts one of the most important aspects of their job. ie. being impartial

Pj!

4 costly yellows. 2 reds also.

Bale and Nolan costly for a few fantasy teams.

CSF

MrKingsley wrote: »

But if the actual divers divers (defoe and sessengnon) werent booked then how does it discourage it. He was clipped and fouled. Penalty.

Its a case of the ref having a predetermined notion of what certain players are going to do which completely contradicts one of the most important aspects of their job. ie. being impartial

Great to say in theory but in practice, if referees aren't scrutinising the likes of Bale, Young and Suarez more heavily, they're going to get even more decisions wrong.

MrKingsley

CSF wrote: »

Great to say in theory but in practice, if referees aren't scrutinising the likes of Bale, Young and Suarez more heavily, they're going to get even more decisions wrong.

That is absolute bull. The only reason that bale got booked today was because of the 'reputation' that proceeded him thanks to sky, the bbc and forums such as this contributing to it.

The whole point of what i said was that if defoe (whose dive was disgraceful) and sessengnon(who was at it all game) dive around for 90 minutes then why not punish them?

If a player dives then then deserve to be booked no doubt. But the name on the back of their jersey should have nothing to do with it

CSF

MrKingsley wrote: »

That is absolute bull. The only reason that bale got booked today was because of the 'reputation' that proceeded him thanks to sky, the bbc and forums such as this contributing to it.

The whole point of what i said was that if defoe (whose dive was disgraceful) and sessengnon(who was at it all game) dive around for 90 minutes then why not punish them?

If a player dives then then deserve to be booked no doubt. But the name on the back of their jersey should have nothing to do with it

I want all players who dive to be booked. Ideally the refs would catch everyone. But putting extra scrutiny on players who are known to engage in such ****e makes sense.

Guy:Incognito

MrKingsley wrote: »

That is absolute bull. The only reason that bale got booked today was because of the 'reputation' that proceeded him thanks to sky, the bbc and forums such as this contributing to it.

Surely it all evens out over the season no? and this is just one of his many dives being evened out

MrKingsley

CSF wrote: »

But putting extra scrutiny on players who are known to engage in such ****e makes sense.

Yes IF they dive. If they dont and are fouled then why continue to punish them?

To my mind referees have a shortlist of players who dive and it is only those players who ever get booked, even though there are players who are far worse offenders.

And this 'it evens out over a season' is a crock. Just an excuse for referees to get away with making bad calls time and time again

CSF

MrKingsley wrote: »

Yes IF they dive. If they dont and are fouled then why continue to punish them?

To my mind referees have a shortlist of players who dive and it is only those players who ever get booked, even though there are players who are far worse offenders.

And this 'it evens out over a season' is a crock. Just an excuse for referees to get away with making bad calls time and time again

I'm not saying players should be booked even when they are fouled. I'm just saying referees need to be that bit more mindful when players go down in the box, of players they know get themselves involved in that ****e.

Guy:Incognito

MrKingsley wrote: »

Yes IF they dive. If they dont and are fouled then why continue to punish them?

The ref didn't see it and think "that's a foul but he's due a yellow". The closest he might get is " I'm not sure but he's flinging himself down every week so theres a good chance its a dive"

MrKingsley

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The closest he might get is " I'm not sure but he's flinging himself down every week so theres a good chance its a dive"

But thats my very point. He doesnt fling himself down every week. Each of the yellows he has received for diving could (and possibly should) have been given the other way and the tacklers been booked. But because of the hooplah that the media make out of it when a player gets booked for 'diving' his number is marked.

Book everyone who dives yes but dont go onto the pitch with ideas of what you think players are going to do

noodler

What if you are fouled but the contact doesn't bring you down, your dive does?


I don't really think Bale is as innocent as the majority feel after the Sunderland game.

The contact is clear, no doubt, but it still looks like he threw himself to the ground for me.

Mushy

noodler wrote: »

What if you are fouled but the contact doesn't bring you down, your dive does?


I don't really think Bale is as innocent as the majority feel after the Sunderland game.

The contact is clear, no doubt, but it still looks like he threw himself to the ground for me.

Agree with this. I think he could have stayed up.

Wonder who will be first to 10 yellows. Tiote must be worth a shout.