Man Knighted for riding a bike - should we have an Irish Honours system?

juan.kerr

Misleading thread title.

Could say the same for anyone that wins anything. Man knighted for talking. Man knighted for writing. Man knighted for driving a car.

old hippy

Dayana Easy Plan wrote: »

No, it's speculation bollix period.

You are an employee of the man in question and I claim my prize.

wendell borton

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Get rid of Higgins and pick out an ancestor of Rory O'Connor to become High King.

It should go to Franz Bonaventura Adalbert Maria Herzog von , duke of Bavaria.

'Franz is also the current senior co-heir-general of King Charles I of England and Scotland, and thus is considered by Jacobites to be the legitimate heir of the House of Stuart as king of England, France, Scotland, and Ireland as Francis II.'

juan.kerr

Imagine the number of awards they'd be giving out to RTE presenters. We'd never hear the end of it.

At least he was only riding his bike rather that roiding his bike! :pac:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7095134.stm


A man caught trying to have sex with his bicycle has been sentenced to three years on probation. Robert Stewart, 51, admitted a sexually aggravated breach of the peace by conducting himself in a disorderly manner and simulating sex.
Sheriff Colin Miller also placed Stewart on the Sex Offenders Register for three years.
Mr Stewart was caught in the act with his bicycle by cleaners in his bedroom at the Aberley House Hostel in Ayr.
Gail Davidson, prosecuting, told Ayr Sheriff Court: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.

Malibu Sunshine

Duck Soup wrote: »

Sir Brendan O'Carroll

Would you kindly fcuk off.

Biggins

Lukebray wrote: »

On a serious note, I can't think of any Irish people I'd bother giving a knighthood to...

John Hume?

dr gonzo

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Get rid of Higgins and pick out an ancestor of Rory O'Connor to become High King.

Not even a century old and we're already throwing out the republic?

TheUsual

Sir John Bruton.

*you know he says this to himself in the mirror*

TheUsual

Should we have an Irish Honours system ?

It's called getting elected. Never have to work again ever.
Retire after 6 years and go to Miami and drink rum&cokes with Mary Harney on the beach.

juan.kerr

As long as Brian 'Pigs Lips' Cowen doesn't get one...

admiralofthefleet

we do already its called the presidents awards or gaisce awards i think, the brits should get rid of the honours system, its costing them a fortune and is very outdated

Our man in Havana

we do already its called the presidents awards or gaisce awards

Those are for school kids. All a load of bollix.

GreenWolfe

admiralofthefleet wrote: »

we do already its called the presidents awards or gaisce awards i think, the brits should get rid of the honours system, its costing them a fortune and is very outdated

Gaisce isn't for that purpose, it's for young people (mid teens to mid twenties). The British equivalent would be the Duke of Edinburgh's Award.

nice_very

I have not looked this up, but I remember reading before that to receive a foreign award such as a knighthood, especially IIRC from our nearest neighbour, one must seek permission from the Irish government, and may be requested to give up their Irish nationality. Same applies when receiving a foreign passport (not through extraction).

Personally I do not recognise any title such as sir/lord/duke/earl etc and I have met titled people before, using their name to address them as they do to address me. So IMO, NO, Ireland should not have such a system.

WindSock

But we do. Don't the Calor Gas Housewife of the Year awards mean nothing to you people?

mikemac1

Arise Sir JP McManus

Pride of Limerick

admiralofthefleet

EarthlyPangaea wrote: »

Gaisce isn't for that purpose, it's for young people (mid teens to mid twenties). The British equivalent would be the Duke of Edinburgh's Award.

thanks for explaing that for me, i really thought they were some sort of national awards

_petulia_

Malibu Sunshine wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/20852564




He's now a "Sir" at the age of just 32!

Should we have a similar system in Ireland for honouring people?

He didn't just ride a bike OP, how very derogatory of you, he won the Tour de France and medals in several Olympics. If we had a system like Britain does I would be ashamed if we left him off the list.

Should we have something similar? We don't have a monarchy so it would be hard to. We honour our sportspeople as much as we can and they mean as much.

DEFTLEFTHAND

dr gonzo wrote: »

Not even a century old and we're already throwing out the republic?

Yes, I want to be King!! I only brought up our last King Rory O'Connor because I share his surname, I'm the rightful heir to the throne dammit!!:mad: :pac:

old hippy

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Yes, I want to be King!! I only brought up our last King Rory O'Connor because I share his surname, I'm the rightful heir to the throne dammit!!:mad: :pac:

Tbf, go back far enough and there's many, many people related to the man. That DNA thing can show up a whole nation of descendents

Son Of A Vidic

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradley Wiggins ends up going down the same route as Lance Armstrong in a few years time. Surely it's a very premature and potentially embarrassing mistake to Knight him so soon. Especially coming from a sport that is riddled with drug cheats.

suicide_circus

instead of publicly honoring people for goodness or greatness, can we have something like the raspberry movie awards, where people guilty of great or prolonged gobsh!tery are invited to the Aras and are awarded with a ceremonial kick up the arse?

old hippy

Corvus Maximus wrote: »

It wouldn't surprise me at all if Bradley Wiggins ends up going down the same route as Lance Armstrong in a few years time. Surely it's a very premature and potentially embarrassing mistake to Knight him so soon. Especially coming from a sport that is riddled with drug cheats.

ALL sport has drug cheats. That's not to say, infer, imply, allege that BW is in any way a cheat.

He's not.

Qualitymark

The Republic of Ireland was established on the basis that there would be no medals or titles, that all citizens would be equal. In a case where a citizen is offered an honour by another state (for instance, there are several Irish people who have been chosen for the equivalent of Legion d'Honneur for foreigners (I forget the name of it offhand; there are also Irish people who have been offered knighthoods etc by Britain), that citizen is required to request permission from the Cabinet.

Our equality was hard won. We should guard it.

LordSutch

Malibu Sunshine wrote: »

Man Knighted for riding a bike - should we have an Irish Honours system?

Well now, he can ride it fairly quickly, and he did beat the hell out of the Olympic competition, he's also a great ambassador for cycling, so why not make him a Knight? Bike sales are up 7% in the UK as a direct result of Bradley, Victoria, Sir Chris, Laur Trott etc on their bikes, so its a win win situation all round for British cycling (professional & amateur alike), and the knighthood is just the icing on the cake!

Can you imagine if Bradley had been Irish, God we'd be go for him, ala Katie Taylor. Bike sales would be up all over the country, the kids would be asking for the Bradley haircut, and people would be shouting for him to be honoured in some way (as Katie should be) IMO.

retalivity

Daniel O'Donnell was given an MBE.

Would be great craic if he became Sir Wee Daniel

bluecode

Qualitymark wrote: »

The Republic of Ireland was established on the basis that there would be no medals or titles, that all citizens would be equal. In a case where a citizen is offered an honour by another state (for instance, there are several Irish people who have been chosen for the equivalent of Legion d'Honneur for foreigners (I forget the name of it offhand; there are also Irish people who have been offered knighthoods etc by Britain), that citizen is required to request permission from the Cabinet.

Our equality was hard won. We should guard it.

All citizens equal? That'll be the day. Not in this country. Like everything else only lip service is paid to it.

As for honours, yes it would be abused. All kinds of slimy politicians and their pals handing out honours to each other. But they made up for it by handing out massive pensions to themselves.

There is very little sense of civic pride in this country.

As for Wiggins, it's far too soon for him to be Sir Bradley. Cheapens the title if you ask me.

TheUsual

retalivity wrote: »

Daniel O'Donnell was given an MBE.

Would be great craic if he became Sir Wee Daniel

He is a mad IRA head everyone knows that.

gobnaitolunacy

The Davestator wrote: »

We have the freedom of the city award which is just as silly.

Load of bollocks, and you don't get anything in the city for free afterwards ...only grazing in the Phoenix Park.