Buying a belgium malinois pup

solveiga

Hi. I am looking for belgium malinois pup and I was wondering where's the best kennels to buy them.:rolleyes:
thanks

Synyster Shadow

its hard to find the best breeders in Ireland for these dogs. I had one 5 years ago and now he's in the welsh police force they are by far the most intelligent and loyal dogs Iv ever been around.
He came with me to work (security at night alone) and I never had a second of fear for myself been in danger. Sold him when lost my job as he was a working dog and was only happy when working
I got him from a place near me Ill see if I can find there web page they import from Belgium

theres Lux when he was pup and fully grown

Bullseye1

Lovely looking dog. They have their own club.
http://m.bsdclubireland.com/site/mobile?dm_path=%2Fthebreedinireland.htm&fw_sig_access_token=bae16815d0d3de2411f5999e4ab8fbd76ac01b64&fw_sig_permissions=none&fw_sig_premium=1&fw_sig_permission_level=0&fw_sig_api_key=522b0eedffc137c934fc7268582d53a1&fw_sig_tier=0&fw_sig_is_admin=0&fw_sig_social=1&fw_sig_session_key=bebc4d3fef69c582a491159b80d6afed66757cb0c332ea78fe3c29380bd70027-21987666&fw_sig_url=http://www.bsdclubireland.com/&fw_sig_time=1355642060793&fw_sig_site=21987666&fw_sig=1253b585cab481de604de7e44c018557&fb_sig_network=fw#1002

Synyster Shadow

they look every bit as good as they are.

k9cara

There is a more up-to-date page for the BSD club of Ireland on Facebook.

Malinois aren't the easiest breed to own. As mentioned above, they are working dogs and they need a job or a sport to keep their mind and body active - a walk around the block is not enough to keep a Mali happy. They are also a very sensitive breed and they need to be trained with this in mind to get the best out of the dog. They also need to be socialized very well at a young age. They are very intelligent and very strong!

There is a bit of a split between show and working lines and temperament and drive vary accordingly, so it is important to know what you are looking for. Malinois, and BSDs in general are very sociable and love to be with family so being left outside on their own is NOT a good idea at all.

Solveiga have you owned a Malinois before? Is there a particular type of training etc. you are interested in? I could then point you in the right direction.

mark1018

I know one kennel in Longforg - Galefords kennels
and one in Monaghan - www.real-malinois.com

k9cara

Many, many Malinois are ending up in rescues and pounds in Ireland and in the UK because they are going to inexperienced homes. Most of these Malinois are from working lines and are very high drive. People like the look of them but living with a dog that has such a willingness to work can cause problems if there is no suitable work to be done. Show lines are generally less drivey but they still need to be kept occupied. Both working and show lines need to be around their family to be at their happiest.

I have two Malinois who are both very high drive. One is from show lines and one from working lines. They can be seen in action doing agility in training or competition - if anyone would like to see what they are like before making a decision if it is the right breed for them.

DBB

Lots of good advice here OP: you need to be really careful about who you go to to get a Mal, or indeed any BSD. One of the problems is, and I by no means wish to tar all with the one brush here, but as with GSDs, there is a *certain* subset of BSD breeders who like to perpetuate the Tough Guy image, and like people to think their dogs are robotic killing machines.
Despite their often uber-confident manner, these same people rarely understand what they're doing with regard to genetic selection, raising pups, or training pups and adult dogs: don't get me started on what they've done to German Shepherds:mad:.
Many use really questionable and unnecessarily harsh training techniques, and their dogs are often timid, nervy and a tad unpredictable as a result. But BSDs (and GSDs) often manifest their underlying nervousness via a faux-confident demeanour (much like their handlers ), and so it can be difficult to tell that your pup's parents are, in fact, not particularly nice dogs temperament-wise, and should not have been bred from.
So, tread carefully: do a lot of research into the breeder and where he/she is coming from with regard to why they're breeding these dogs in the first place.

k9cara

I agree. If Belgians are nervy they can show it by retreating OR by moving forwards barking - this varies by dog / line etc. I've also seen unnecessarily harsh / macho handling of Belgians which I hate to see. They are sensitive dogs and respond well to positive training techniques (e.g. clicker training).

Whispered

DBB wrote: »

Many use really questionable and unnecessarily harsh training techniques, and their dogs are often timid, nervy and a tad unpredictable as a result.

I know of a breeder who uses a stud dog who literally cannot be handled. The bitch is brought to him and he is moved through a series of gates to her, same for exercise, he's moved via a series of gates to an enclosed area to exercise himself, then back to where his food and bed is. He is never ever touched. The owner described him as one would a wild animal in a zoo. It's very very sad if true.

It is a ridiculous scenario and made worse by the fact the owner brags about this.

Synyster Shadow

k9cara wrote: »

I have two Malinois who are both very high drive. One is from show lines and one from working lines. They can be seen in action doing agility in training or competition - if anyone would like to see what they are like before making a decision if it is the right breed for them.

Have you any videos?


and as for Galefords I recommend them too thats where I got my Mal from and he went on to do the best of jobs
they bring in bloodlines direct from Belgium

fatmammycat

Whispered wrote: »

I know of a breeder who uses a stud dog who literally cannot be handled. The bitch is brought to him and he is moved through a series of gates to her, same for exercise, he's moved via a series of gates to an enclosed area to exercise himself, then back to where his food and bed is. He is never ever touched. The owner described him as one would a wild animal in a zoo. It's very very sad if true.

It is a ridiculous scenario and made worse by the fact the owner brags about this.

That's actually heart breaking to read, that poor dog. What a miserable life for such a social creature.

tk123

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Lovely looking dog. They have their own club.
http://m.bsdclubireland.com/site/mobile?dm_path=%2Fthebreedinireland.htm&fw_sig_access_token=bae16815d0d3de2411f5999e4ab8fbd76ac01b64&fw_sig_permissions=none&fw_sig_premium=1&fw_sig_permission_level=0&fw_sig_api_key=522b0eedffc137c934fc7268582d53a1&fw_sig_tier=0&fw_sig_is_admin=0&fw_sig_social=1&fw_sig_session_key=bebc4d3fef69c582a491159b80d6afed66757cb0c332ea78fe3c29380bd70027-21987666&fw_sig_url=http://www.bsdclubireland.com/&fw_sig_time=1355642060793&fw_sig_site=21987666&fw_sig=1253b585cab481de604de7e44c018557&fb_sig_network=fw#1002

Ok I have to ask an OT dummy question about the dog in the third pic. I've seen a few of these and thought they were long haired gsds.. Is there such a thing as a long haired gsds or are they really bsds?

aodhan2

hey, i just stumbled across this thread ! i have a malinois pup a bitch almost two, we got her from a rescue as a 6 week old abondoned pup so we had no idea what type of dog she was for a year , she is well walked etc and fed , super intelligent also, but her obidience is dependent on her mood ! she will obey basic commands for treats but she will not come when called if she sees a cat , i mean she hunts them . I also find she has issues with some people like she will look like she will attack them especially our neighbours for some reason? we keep her inside generally and she socialises well. is it to late to train her more? could anyone with more experience give me some advice maybe ! i could not find much contact numbers on the website? cheers!
oh and if you can handle these dogs they are certainly well worth it , loyalty , intelligence etc top notch!

Rommie

tk123 wrote: »

Ok I have to ask an OT dummy question about the dog in the third pic. I've seen a few of these and thought they were long haired gsds.. Is there such a thing as a long haired gsds or are they really bsds?

There are long-haired GSDs as well. There are four breeds of BSD- Tervueren (long-haired), Groenendael (long-haired), Malinois (short-haired) and Laekenois (Wiry-haired). I don't think there are many Tervueren over here so you probably are seeing long-haired GSDs

Synyster Shadow

aodhan2 wrote: »

hey, i just stumbled across this thread ! i have a malinois pup a bitch almost two, we got her from a rescue as a 6 week old abondoned pup so we had no idea what type of dog she was for a year , she is well walked etc and fed , super intelligent also, but her obidience is dependent on her mood ! she will obey basic commands for treats but she will not come when called if she sees a cat , i mean she hunts them . I also find she has issues with some people like she will look like she will attack them especially our neighbours for some reason? we keep her inside generally and she socialises well. is it to late to train her more? could anyone with more experience give me some advice maybe ! i could not find much contact numbers on the website? cheers!
oh and if you can handle these dogs they are certainly well worth it , loyalty , intelligence etc top notch!

I got mine at 5 months old from a crowd in longford he has just basic training then but most the work went into him when he was a year old to a year and half. I don't think it's too late it's just finding the best way to train her. I'm not sure where you live but there are a few places in Ireland that are great with that breed and just to talk to them over the phone might help. If lux wanted to do his own thing I sent him on a days training and that was all he needed to remind him when he's called back or told do somethin then he does it. He loved playin fetch but hated giving the ball back but that got nipped easily enough there strong willed in every way! Try Galefords kennels they really know what there doing

Whispered

fatmammycat wrote: »

That's actually heart breaking to read, that poor dog. What a miserable life for such a social creature.

Now I don't know how true it is as I've never seen it myself and the owner (whose name escapes me) was the type of idiot who obviously thought that sort of thing would impress people.

DBB

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Synyster Shadow

Already received a mod warning.Please dont repost here looking to do a deal selling puppies.