Playoffs 2012

davyjose

matthew8 wrote: »

For the late game, I think Webb makes it more interesting. He seems to be more of a playmaker than Ponder.

I always wonder about teams with a backup who's nothing like the starting QB. Does the OC come up with an entire new scheme, with unique plays just for this guy? Do the starting receivers and Linemen have to run through this new game plan to get it down? Or do they just throw them all on the field come game day, and hope it sticks?

Pudsy33

Mike Mayock reckons Webb is going to worry the Packers, he's certainly different to what they have planned for with Ponder.

HigginsJ

When did Jets cut the "Terminator"

Pudsy33

davyjose wrote: »

I always wonder about teams with a backup who's nothing like the starting QB. Does the OC come up with an entire new scheme, with unique plays just for this guy? Do the starting receivers and Linemen have to run through this new game plan to get it down? Or do they just throw them all on the field come game day, and hope it sticks?

We're gonna find out tonight!

Hulk Hands

frostie500 wrote: »

Losing your starting QB hours before a Playoff game is always bad for a team but given the fact that Ponder was arguably the worst starting QB in the league for much of the season (OK...second worst behind Sanchez!) you'd have to say that losing him isnt a huge loss. With the exception of last weekend against Green Bay when was he productive? Webb will give the Vikings an extra dimension with a mobile QB but it will be crucial that he makes some plays early

Ah that's overboard. I could name at least 6/7 worse starters. He started the season very well. He's only gone terrible since Harvin got injured. The Vikings have nothing at WR besides him.

People seem to presume Ponder is very average. He's anything but. He can be incredible at times, it's just that he makes some completely stupid boneheaded decisions that have you wondering how he ever got into college, let alone a masters degree in 3 years. He certainly has a place in the league if he can improve his consistency

HigginsJ

AJ Green is pretty decent.

davyjose

Pudsy33 wrote: »

We're gonna find out tonight!

Ha ha, we sure are.

Can. Not. Wait. Go Vikes!!!

Pudsy33

HigginsJ wrote: »

AJ Green is pretty decent.

I know he didn't get the first down, but it was a stupidly good catch.

Justin10

If Texans lose this anyone think Kubiak gets fired?

HigginsJ

Rochey18 wrote: »

If Texans lose this anyone think Kubiak gets fired?

No chance

cooker3

matthew8 wrote: »

Does anyone else here sort of have 2 teams? LIke one for the AFC and one for the NFC. I'd consider myself 60% Ravens fan and 40% Cowboys fan. Works great too because it's 4 years until their next regular season meeting.

I will be on my own here, especially on this forum, and while I'm a 100% packers fan. I have a fondness for the...Patriots. I just admire their consistent quality and BB not giving a **** about anyone.

davyjose

Rochey18 wrote: »

If Texans lose this anyone think Kubiak gets fired?

I think Schaub might be looking over his shoulder though.

Pherekydes

Joe Webb becomes the first QB to start a play-off game after not attempting a single pass in the regular season!

cooker3

Not sure what to think of the Webb situation. I'm kind of worried. I remember the first game of Super Bowl season when we faced the eagles and we were dominating thmn. Kolb got injured and Vick came in and destroyed us, although we just held on for the win. I'd worry with lack of prep something similar could happen.
Still overall, I'm very confident.

matthew8

davyjose wrote: »

I think Schaub might be looking over his shoulder though.

He won't be. QBs like Schaub are not easy to come by. People say things like drop Romo, drop Flacco, drop Schaub, and they don't realise just how rare elite QBs are.

Paully D

In terms of the NFL, Green is wide open on that play. Awful throw by Dalton.

matthew8

Don't know why they accepted the penalty. It stopped the clock. If they declined it would've gone to the 2 minute warning and they could've knelt.

SK1979

Dalton still didnt make a 3rd down did he?

davyjose

matthew8 wrote: »

He won't be. QBs like Schaub are not easy to come by. People say things like drop Romo, drop Flacco, drop Schaub, and they don't realise just how rare elite QBs are.

Edit: yeah I see what you mean. I just think Houston need to find someone who can put the team on his shoulders when it counts. They wont win a Super Bowl otherwise

davyjose

SK1979 wrote: »

Dalton still didnt make a 3rd down did he?

Not sure, but he was terrible today. Any half decent performance would have won that game.

HigginsJ

davyjose wrote: »

Edit: yeah I see what you mean. I just think Houston need to find someone who can put the team on his shoulders when it counts. They wont win a Super Bowl otherwise

There would be plenty of takers if any of the 3 above we're on the market. Elite or not they are a damn sight better than a lot of the guys starting elsewhere.

matthew8

HigginsJ wrote: »

There would be plenty of takers if any of the 3 above we're on the market. Elite or not they are a damn sight better than a lot of the guys starting elsewhere.

In fairness he didn't say anything about Romo or Flacco (at least in this thread, may have criticised them earlier in the year).

davyjose

matthew8 wrote: »

In fairness he didn't say anything about Romo or Flacco (at least in this thread, may have criticised them earlier in the year).

I said they werent elite before my edit: I misread your post though.

cooker3

Personally I think schaub is good enough to lead them to the Super Bowl. He is not a flacco or romo. He is much more consistent imo,

mikemac1

Ahem, Flacco has won playoff games every year he has been in the league

And was a dropped ball away from the Superbowl

Inconsistent?

matthew8

mikemac1 wrote: »

Ahem, Flacco has won playoff games every year he has been in the league

And was a dropped ball away from the Superbowl

Inconsistent?

Well, he is inconsistent. He was very lucky to win some of those playoff games. Plenty of poor games this year too.

davyjose

cooker3 wrote: »

Personally I think schaub is good enough to lead them to the Super Bowl. He is not a flacco or romo. He is much more consistent imo,

The guy who hasn't thrown a TD in four games, and one in the last five? And all in the same timespan as 4 INTs?

Edit: 4 Ints.

cooker3

Flacco has played some good games in play-offs but he also plays Terri-bad at times.
Look at schaub career and he has been very generally consistent. Yeah, he's had a few bad games but overall a good qb who could be great. I doubt flacco or romo ever will.

(I didn''t mean to turn this to an anti-flacco thing though)

Ares

I think the Vikings vs Packers game is going to be fascinating.

I saw the Lions at Vikings game last season and Joe Webb had the Lions defence in absolute fits with the way he ran with the ball. He's incredibly quick and elusive. If the Packers stack the box to deal with Peterson it'll give Webb lots of space. Play action could be extremely successful and I think a couple of wildcat plays could prove to be very successful.

Packers best defensive package is the nickel package. They won't get a chance to run that today if the Vikings are close, this will also help the Vikings. This is gonna be either a classic or a blowout. I'm going to put a few euros on Webb and the Vikes for the craic.

davyjose

Go VIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hulk Hands

Good or Bad, Webb will be entertaining. Can't wait

davyjose

Ponder Schmonder!

davyjose

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Good or Bad, Webb will be entertaining. Can't wait

It's Ironic that he's #14 -- half of 28

Ares

Can't find any market offering Webb first touchdown scorer. Bastards.

GoldFour4

Peterson clearly still lording it over the Packers D.Webb looks like he won't be able to throw accurately so I fear AD will tire out in the latter stages.

Hulk Hands

malistheman wrote: »

Peterson clearly still lording it over the Packers D.Webb looks like he won't be able to throw accurately so I fear AD will tire out in the latter stages.

There will be a lot of that short inaccurate passing. But be warned, he can and probably will complete a long bomb at some stage

mikemac1

Culinary Academy

A real football powerhouse :cool:

HigginsJ

Will the Vikes need any passing yards? The packers will need to put 10 in the box

HigginsJ

Wow Joe Webb, what are you doing

GoldFour4

Jesus Joe don't do that !

Paully D

Joe Webb thought he was shooting free throws there :eek:

Pherekydes

malistheman wrote: »

Peterson clearly still lording it over the Packers D.Webb looks like he won't be able to throw accurately so I fear AD will tire out in the latter stages.

All Day tire out? No way!

Bizarre play by Webb there, could have been a pick six.

Syferus

You know, with their dearth of weapons at WR Webb might be a blessing in disguise. Probably one of very best athletes at QB and he'll open up lanes for AP too against a Packers team that seem to be clueless against the run. They won't have been prepared properly for Webb and that should play in his favour too.

Of course the ability to play that game all depends on the Vikings' defence keeping Rodgers relatively quiet. I wonder.

PerrinV2

First time watching the Vikes,I thought ponder was QB?

Pudsy33

PerrinV2 wrote: »

First time watching the Vikes,I thought ponder was QB?

He's injured, Webb plays instead.

Pherekydes

Matthews you legend.

cooker3

Clay Matthews. So good he sacks while on the ground.

HigginsJ

Joe Webb, take the sack

davyjose

He's going to get picked off with that sh!t

PerrinV2

Jesus Webb might get caught out if he keeps throwing the ball out like that when he's sacked