salary cap and trades

Guffy

How does a trade affect the salary cap? For the person trading a player and receiving a player.

If cuts are made before June the 1st does that mean that next seasons cap will not be affected by the hits?

helimachoptor

If a player has a 5 million year deal and 3 years left and you trade him. If his bonus makes up 2 out of the 5 million. You take the cap hit if 2 million that season and then 4 millionthe next

Not sure on the dates tbh

The_Gatsby

helimachoptor wrote: »

If a player has a 5 million year deal and 3 years left and you trade him. If his bonus makes up 2 out of the 5 million. You take the cap hit if 2 million that season and then 4 millionthe next

Not sure on the dates tbh

So basically not a good idea to go trading big players?

adrian522

Basically you have already paid their signing bonus and that still counts against your cap, so if they have a large bonus doesn't make sense to trade them.

helimachoptor

It depends. In another league I've taken a 10 mil hit this year, got picks for the players and used rookies to fill in. 2 players basically cost me that hit :eek:
Taking thehit allows me to sign me qb and TE.

It really is a balancing act

Guffy

so m#would my hit on him be the 10m bonus or the 5m cap hit?

http://s601.beta.photobucket.com/user/gufc21/media/freeman_zps53096a75.png.html?sort=3&o=0

SantryRed

gufc21 wrote: »

so m#would my hit on him be the 10m bonus or the 5m cap hit?

http://s601.beta.photobucket.com/user/gufc21/media/freeman_zps53096a75.png.html?sort=3&o=0

That cap hit looks wrong.

Basically, when you cut a player, you must account for the bonus left on his contract as he gets paid that when the contract starts. The way that works is he takes the bonus hit you would have taken any way this year, and then any remaining bonus left in the following years goes against your cap the next year.

So if Freeman signed on a 4 year deal with a bonus of 10m. Every year, 2.5m bonus goes against your cap.

If you cut him in his second year, you would take a 2.5m cap hit in the 2nd year, and then in the 3rd year you would take a 5m cap hit as that is the remaining bonus left to be paid.

I think the cap hit is how much you are saving/losing when you look at what it'll cost you in bonus hit to what you will save on his salary.

helimachoptor

No, would be 2 million as his bonus is 10 million over 5 years

adrian522

gufc21 wrote: »

so m#would my hit on him be the 10m bonus or the 5m cap hit?

http://s601.beta.photobucket.com/user/gufc21/media/freeman_zps53096a75.png.html?sort=3&o=0

Freeman had a 5 year contract with 10mil bonus.

That means his bonus is 2m per year.

If you trade him with one year left, cap penalty = 2mil. Presumably next year is his final year?

You'd also save the salary you're not paying him so may work out as a net gain.

Guffy

and how would this affect the person signing him?

helimachoptor

The person signing him only pays him his salary not whatever the bonus is

adrian522

The person signing him just pays his salary, as his bouns has already been paid, and then has the chance to resign him to a new deal once the current one runs out after 1 year.

Guffy

so they would pay 4 million for his remaining year? assuming its an even split? cheers for the help lads just want to clarify the situation, not just for freeman but in general.

helimachoptor

No. They would pay 2.

He has a 5 year 20 million deal but 10 of that is his bonus. If he's traded freeman will get paid

(20-10 = 10mil salary)
1 year left from 5 year deal so 10 x 20% = 2 million

adrian522

Well it depends on how his contract is structured and what is salary is in year 5. If his total salary is 20Million and 10 million is bonus that leaves 10 mil salary over 5 years which would be approx 2mil per year, but usually its not split evenly.

You can check all this a lot easier on the xbox than on the website.

Berty44

His contract AFAIK is

5 year contract, next season 2013 is his last year
Salary 20m
Bonus 10m

So Bucs would have a cap penalty of 2m if they trade him ( 1/5 x 10M )
The salary would be structured but would probably be in the region of 5-6 million as it us allocated higher towards the contract end so thats what any team who would trade for him would have to pay.

on XBox go to Strategy > Salaries

etloveslsd

Can I just warn people before they go spending all that lovely cap that you have to take into account your incoming rookies.

When we advance to the off season around 10 million will disappear from your cap. The game automatically sets it aside for you draft class. It is possible that you will go into negative figures. It happened to me offline as I have around 4 first round picks.

Berty44

Thats a great point. Normally you will need 6-7 million for your draft picks, if you have more high picks that increases.

If you are over cap by the time Preseason is over and the Regular season starts I don't think you will be allowed to actually play your games !

etloveslsd

Are trades with cpu teams allowed? It's probably not gonna happen as the cpu overprices everyone, but guild lines would be helpful

Also if a cpu team sends you a trade offer can you accept? If I'm not mistaken this happened in preseason before people took control.

SantryRed

And if your like me you don't need account at all for draft cap space due to barely having any picks

PADRAIC.M

so if I have 33m cap space, I also need to be thinking about our 3 season too? Or could I blow 10m now?

helimachoptor

It depends on when your resignings are, you may blow 20 mil on resigning now, but you may have 2/3 players who want massive deals next year and you might not be able to afford them..