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SBR Challenge 2013 & Events list
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Who is leading the SBR Challenge and what IM did they do? the top four are a mix HIM and Sprint/Olympic.shotgunmcos wrote: »OK so far
Sponsoring? Primes? Maybe if there was a fair system to weight IMers and multi HIMers with Messers
As for the messers - may I suggest "After Hours"?shotgunmcos wrote: »NS calculated = nope.. not everyone races NS BUT incorporating predicted race results vs actual results in terms of total seconds difference*various metrics etc..?
Only measures volume = yes as it was originally designed for. How to inject more interesting data? How to inject fun? How to inject more participation?
Looks like the Gold marks are elusive. Too high? How as bronze/silver/gold vs the old green/gold?
Unsurprisingly I'm of the opinion that gold (like medals) should be hard to achieve, not just handed out willy nilly to everyone.0 -
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Kurt Godel wrote: »I'd agree with Tunney- there's only one gold as things stand at the moment and its well deserved. Gold should be hard to get.
Starting to think Mike you opened this up for discussion so we could see it's fine as it stands:)
Yes gold should be hard to get. The 3 golds on previous challenges maybe soft. The one gold mark I was iffy about originally was the run. The ranking works better this year than the predecessors also. Less work for me to maintain things
The reasons I opened for discussion..
A) we have lots of new and lurking posters on the forum ( which is still relatively new itself)
I value the input of all participants and will amend as popular request while keeping the original idea intact.
C) I'm generally looking for ideas to inject banter during the year and if it needs a fun column added or formatted to facilitate then so be it, not to fundamentally change the challenge.
D) No changes to challenge format after Jan 01 2014:)
@bambaata - +1 on encouraging simple participation. I get messages at the end of every year to that effect to confirm peoples get value from simply logging data. Adding a goal element is interesting. Is it even necessary to have the current "goal distance' column ? Might be more interesting to put an event as A Goal?0 -
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Along the line of what RQ has suggested above, I've been trying to figure out how to automatically update the SBR spreadsheet from my own training log spreadsheet.
In that spreadsheet is a monthly split of S/B/R distances which are collated into a total for Year to Date which I just carry over to the SBR. If you wanted to do a monthly league it could be a starting point for the SBR2014
That aside having just achieved Silver Run and updated my first swim since August (a 200m swim yesterday, junk anyone? ) I agree with everyone, the goals are spot on, gold being only achieved by the top one or two.
+ 1 on "It's fine Mike"0 -
Nice idea of a monthly league RC. I'll chat with AKW about the creation. Trying to get my head around how it would look and how it works as as league. Might be interesting to break the bronze/silver/gold down to months and then at least achieving one gold in a year is much more possible. We could transfer that points system to main challenge? So, same 3,4,5 points for each mark but the main page shows overall progress only. Points would be only score and does not encompass rank. Simply most points is ranked #1 rather than lowest. Fazz on -6 is odd. Might look better if he was simply ranked #1 on 120 points for achieving 10*bronze, 10*silver and 10*gold. Rank #2 on 110 points etc... It opens it up a bit but the highest average across all 3 will still top as currently. We could fix it so that data entry is on one page only and all status changes are automatic and on one page.
Thoughts?
Edit: overall gold would still mean maintaining a monthly gold level average. Not diluting it!!0 -
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The Lost Sheep wrote: »read the thread? People were discussing whether to change the challenge poss to link it to how season goes rather than just calendar year. Also if not stickied the thread can be seen more in discussion and more people likely to contribute.
FWIW I think changing to start challenge at start October would be better than January as it matches season better
Sorry...Just caught up on the thread now..Mike i think its fine as it is!! and Yes- the Gold should be hard to achieve! my time is running out on trying to achieve bike Gold this year
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Prepping the 2014 SBR challenge over the next few days...
Any and all suggestions welcome for the data table or adding any sub challenges to it. RC's monthly sub league is interesting still
Don't forget to update your 2013 data before year end 0 -
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OK started putting the 2014 SBR together. Its basically the same as 2013
I like the idea of a monthly league that carries your data over from the main sheet automatically. The monthly ranks could also set up an automatic overall score that trumps overall distance and make the challenge a bit more open if that were to appeal to everyone?
However I need help to set up the right formulae
Any excel/gdrive experts out there please drop me a pm and I'll add you onto the doc?
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Reminder
Tuesday is the last day for updating. I will allow a few hours for those out West (Dory
) to still update in 2013!
2014 Challenge just about ready to go so get a last run in on Tuesday or save it for Wednesday and take the lead for 2014
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shotgunmcos wrote: »Reminder
Tuesday is the last day for updating. I will allow a few hours for those out West (Dory) to still update in 2013!
2014 Challenge just about ready to go so get a last run in on Tuesday or save it for Wednesday and take the lead for 2014
Cheers for all the hard work that goes into this MCOS. I think the amount of people who up date this regularly is a sure sign of how much it's appreciated.
I've just guestimated an update for what little running I have done down here in the Southern Hemisphere. There'll be nothing more, there's been nothing for almost two week now. Lows of 27 during the night (its 35+ during the day) are not great training conditions for a ginger
A relatively poor year for me, no real consistency, I had a full 4 months with zero swimming and a almost the same with zero running. Biking was ok-ish but no real hard work, mostly easy spins. But more important things happened this year...
I look forward to the 2014 version but I warn not to make it too complicated or complex, this may put many people off.0 -
Cheers BTH. 2014 will incorporate some of the suggestions but it will remain a simple single sheet data entry for all participants with the spreadsheet doing the rest of the work. Have to give mossym credit for helping me create a simpler way for the 2014 version 0
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shotgunmcos wrote: »Cheers BTH. 2014 will incorporate some of the suggestions but it will remain a simple single sheet data entry for all participants with the spreadsheet doing the rest of the work. Have to give mossym credit for helping me create a simpler way for the 2014 version
in fairness i didn't do anything, you did all the work, i just sound-boarded ideas. Not going to take credit when the effort was on your side!!0 -
shotgunmcos wrote: »OK started putting the 2014 SBR together. Its basically the same as 2013
I like the idea of a monthly league that carries your data over from the main sheet automatically. The monthly ranks could also set up an automatic overall score that trumps overall distance and make the challenge a bit more open if that were to appeal to everyone?
However I need help to set up the right formulae
Any excel/gdrive experts out there please drop me a pm and I'll add you onto the doc?
Thanks
MCOS, I only spotted this, if you are ever stuck ROM on the A/R is fairly handy with Google docs, though good to see mossym was able to help keep it in the 'family'
Can't wait for the new edition of the spreadsheet, blank slate and all that 0 -
MCOS, I only spotted this, if you are ever stuck ROM on the A/R is fairly handy with Google docs, though good to see mossym was able to help keep it in the 'family'
Can't wait for the new edition of the spreadsheet, blank slate and all that
Cheers AKW. I thought of him alright but decided to keep it within the family at all costs! Didn't want the sort of off grey dark side to have a claim to our shiny new challenge Thankfully we have some clever clogs on this forum.
The original SBR (remember the 2010 chaos on boards tables :eek:) was akin to the 1000mile but the 2014 version is a million kms from it and will be much more fun this year 0 -
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