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M8 watergrasshill to dunkettle, dual carraigeway or motorway?

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  • 01-01-2013 4:06am
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    stacexD
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    I was looking at apple maps (not that it's very reliable :P) and noticed the M8 changes to N8 after watergrasshill heading to dunkettle.

    I'm pretty sure the speed limit is 120 until Glanmire though and changes a bit after? And when you join from watergrasshill the signs are blue but I haven't noticed any big no cyclists pedestrians L drivers etc sign.

    So what i want to know is the legality of driving from watergrasshill (or even glanmire) to dunkettle as an L driver on that road?


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    Carlow2011
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    The old 'Glanmire bypass' from Dunkettle to Glanmire is 100kph from there on you're 120 to Naas, happy safe motoring!!

    No 'L' drivers allowed on this stretch though but this doesn't seem to be much of a concern to RSA at the moment.


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    stacexD
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    Carlow2011 wrote: »
    The old 'Glanmire bypass' from Dunkettle to Glanmire is 100kph from there on you're 120 to Naas, happy safe motoring!!

    No 'L' drivers allowed on this stretch though but this doesn't seem to be much of a concern to RSA at the moment.

    Thanks! So Joining at Glanmire going to dunkettle is ok or is that a no no too?
    It's dodgy lately for checkpoints at the end of that road and I'd hate to get done for something so trivial.
    But it's some dose trying to avoid it too :P


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    Victor
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    The M8 extends from Portlaoise to Dunkettle. If it has an 'M' in the designation, it is a motorway.

    The Glanmire Bypass is 100km/h for a number of reasons, particularly the tight curves, where traffic can only see a certain distance ahead, especially on the median side. Approaching Dunkettle, there is a need to slow traffic before the interchange.
    stacexD wrote: »
    And when you join from watergrasshill the signs are blue but I haven't noticed any big no cyclists pedestrians L drivers etc sign.
    The motorway 'chopsticks' sign means all of this and you know this.
    So what i want to know is the legality of driving from watergrasshill (or even glanmire) to dunkettle as an L driver on that road?
    Completely illegal. Stick to the old road or get your licence.
    stacexD wrote: »
    But it's some dose trying to avoid it too :P
    But surely you start off not on the motorway?
    Carlow2011 wrote: »
    The old 'Glanmire bypass' from Dunkettle to Glanmire is 100kph from there on you're 120 to Naas
    Except the toll plazas. :)


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    Cedrus
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    I drive it daily and I'm even not certain but as far as I can be sure the end of motorway is between the Glanmire and Dunkettle junctions so No an L driver should not be on it.
    I don't understand why you think it's hard to avoid, the road through glanmire was the main Dublin road for a hundred years or more.


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    stacexD
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    Victor wrote: »
    The M8 extends from Portlaoise to Dunkettle. If it has an 'M' in the designation, it is a motorway.

    The Glanmire Bypass is 100km/h for a number of reasons, particularly the tight curves, where traffic can only see a certain distance ahead, especially on the median side. Approaching Dunkettle, there is a need to slow traffic before the interchange.

    The motorway 'chopsticks' sign means all of this and you know this.

    Completely illegal. Stick to the old road or get your licence.

    But surely you start off not on the motorway?

    Except the toll plazas. :)

    I wouldn't be asking the question if I was sure. I may ditch the car anyway and look for a high horse like yours to run about on.


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    ted1
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    If the signs are blue your on a motorway


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    Victor
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    stacexD wrote: »
    I wouldn't be asking the question if I was sure. I may ditch the car anyway and look for a high horse like yours to run about on.
    Also not allowed on motorways. ;)


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    KCAccidental
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    Victor wrote: »
    Also not allowed on motorways. ;)

    Unless you're racing against someone ;)


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    familystand
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    If theres blue signs stay away as a L driver


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    AugustusMinimus
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    The motorway technically begins 400m after the Dunkettle Interchange. It's not signed this way though.


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    ShamoBuc
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    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    The motorway technically begins 400m after the Dunkettle Interchange. It's not signed this way though.

    If it is not signed, how does it start - technically?


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    AugustusMinimus
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    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    If it is not signed, how does it start - technically?

    The motorway is signed as starting just after Dunkettle Interchange.

    However, the legislation which changed the Glanmire bypass from National Primary Road to Motorway states that the Motorway begins 400m north of the Dunkettle Interchange.

    This is to facilitate local traffic coming from the Ibis Hotel slip road so they can use the Dunkettle Interchange. Otherwise, traffic which is banned from Motorways would not be able to use this slip road.


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