Gameweek 21 Match Day Thread

GetWithIt

Swiper the fox wrote: »

Most of the scores people have popsted here are way, way above the average of 31, assume ye've all captained Van Persie and he's come up trumps again, extraordinary how many people claimed to have captained Walcott last week and didn't this week, he was playing Southampton.

I kept the armband on the young fella and have spent the morning frantically looking for clips of the OG hoping to minimize the capt fail after reading the comments here.

Definite OG. No chance of being awarded as a Walcott goal.

All my recent managerial decisions have been spectacular fails and the Walcott week (as it is now dubbed) stands alone as a freak piece of good fortune.

2.5K overall but totally undeserved.

SlickRic

i'm fúcking shít-scared of Suarez and Mata tonight.

come on Victor Moses the fúck!

manual_man

GetWithIt wrote: »

I kept the armband on the young fella and have spent the morning frantically looking for clips of the OG hoping to minimize the capt fail after reading the comments here.

Definite OG. No chance of being awarded as a Walcott goal.

All my recent managerial decisions have been spectacular fails and the Walcott week (as it is now dubbed) stands alone as a freak piece of good fortune.

2.5K overall but totally undeserved.

you made the decision. you deserve the rewards

roryc

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm fúcking shít-scared of Suarez and Mata tonight.

Me too

El Horseboxo

Torres could be rested tonight based on Rafa's comments today and Baines and Pienaar are doubts. Baines picked up an ankle injury and Pienaar has a dead leg.

keano_afc

Newcastle just released a statement saying Chelsea have made an offer for Ba and he'll be meeting with them tonight. So he won't be playing. I honestly despair sometimes, everything that can go wrong for me happens.

FutureGuy

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Torres could be rested tonight based on Rafa's comments today and Baines and Pienaar are doubts. Baines picked up an ankle injury and Pienaar has a dead leg.

Ba is OUT tonight.

Chelsea offered 7 m thus activating his clause.

Rayne Wooney

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Torres could be rested tonight based on Rafa's comments today and Baines and Pienaar are doubts. Baines picked up an ankle injury and Pienaar has a dead leg.

Who's going to play up front for them? Is Sturridge not gone?

roryc

Well this is good news. Makes a bit of a mess of my Wildcard plans though. Aguero looks set to be out for two weeks with his injury and really don't want to bring Suarez in.

Bit of a gamble to assume he will hit the ground running at Chelsea!

Cisse might now be an option at Newcastle.

El Horseboxo

FutureGuy wrote: »

Ba is OUT tonight.

Chelsea offered 7 m thus activating his clause.

I have none of Ba, Pie or Baines. My rivals do however and their benches are crap. I'd be delighted if all 3 didn't play. Ba seems the only definite for now.

manual_man

I wouldn't say Ba is a definite. Who knows what him and his agents are up to. "His head might not be right" for Pardew to play him

confirmed. just saw posts on previous page. Ba/Torres roatation ahoy!

El Horseboxo

manual_man wrote: »

I wouldn't say Ba is a definite. Who knows what him and his agents are up to. "His head might not be right" for Pardew to play him

confirmed. just saw posts on previous page. Ba/Torres roatation ahoy!

https://twitter.com/NUFCOfficial/status/286475114046967808

It's from the official Newcastle twitter that he's out. Doubt they'd stick that up if it was just agents talking shít.

Necronomicon

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Who's going to play up front for them? Is Sturridge not gone?

That's what I'm wondering too, do they even have another striker on the books?

I'd be raging if he was resting, I brought him in just for this GW. Though it was for Tevez, who got a lofty 1 point, so at least it wouldn't be complete disaster zone if the worst happened.

It would strike me as crazy man-management not to give a striker who needs goals and confidence a crack at the worst team in the league.

BroLo

Ba being out doesn't bother me too much. I have Puncheon coming off the bench for 5 points which will bring me to 50 with Mata, Sterling, Fellaini and Ceullar to play tonight.

El Horseboxo

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

Who's going to play up front for them? Is Sturridge not gone?

Sure Roman thinks they're Spain. They'll play without strikers. He'll probably start but talk of rest and rotation always makes people nervous.

FutureGuy

SlickRic wrote: »

i'm fúcking shít-scared of Suarez and Mata tonight.

come on Victor Moses the fúck!

Haha for the first time in an age I can break out the popcorn, pour myself a beer and shout both of them on.

In reality, ill be popping antibiotics and drinking lemsips but ye get the idea.

Mata was a risk to bring in but is a greater risk not to have if he starts. They could go mental tonight.

Suarez needs at least a goal or that Hernandez transfer out will be a disaster.

manual_man

El Horseboxo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NUFCOfficial/status/286475114046967808

It's from the official Newcastle twitter that he's out. Doubt they'd stick that up if it was just agents talking shít.

i get that. only saw that after originally posted

Rayne Wooney

Necronomicon wrote: »

That's what I'm wondering too, do they even have another striker on the books?

I'd be raging if he was resting, I brought him in just for this GW. Though it was for Tevez, who got a lofty 1 point, so at least it wouldn't be complete disaster zone if the worst happened.

It would strike me as crazy man-management not to give a striker who needs goals and confidence a crack at the worst team in the league.

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Sure Roman thinks they're Spain. They'll play without strikers. He'll probably start but talk of rest and rotation always makes people nervous.

They probably will play a Spain formation. Something along the lines of

Hazard Marin Mata Oscar Moses
_______Luiz Lampard _____


Not really though, he has to start, they've no one else to play there.

FutureGuy

99 points ahead in my money league and realised my main rival has both Ba and Pienaer. Nice.

El festino

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Torres could be rested tonight based on Rafa's comments today and Baines and Pienaar are doubts. Baines picked up an ankle injury and Pienaar has a dead leg.

:mad:

What did Rafa say?

dahat

FutureGuy wrote: »

Ba is OUT tonight.

Chelsea offered 7 m thus activating his clause.

Queue a big hike in price now,really messes with WC selection this....

El festino

dahat wrote: »

Queue a big hike in price now,really messes with WC selection this....

In FF terms this transfer, i think, hampers both Torres and Ba.

I think id look elsewhere to get a guaranteed starter.

OctavarIan

Ba will surely start games ahead of Torres, he's a much better target man.

manual_man

OctavarIan wrote: »

Ba will surely start games ahead of Torres, he's a much better target man.

begs the question though how much Abramovich has influence on the team selection. he was the one that sanctioned the 50m purchase of Torres after all

BroLo

Is it very unlikely we could see them both starting?

Rayne Wooney

OctavarIan wrote: »

Ba will surely start games ahead of Torres, he's a much better target man.

I don't think the transfer will happen tbh.
Ba has a very bad knee that Newcastle have been hush hush about for a few years. He still has to complete a medical at Chelsea and he has failed them at the last 3 clubs who wanted to sign him. Including Newcastle apparently. Chelsea could still turn him down which wouldn't surprise me at all.

OctavarIan

manual_man wrote: »

begs the question though how much Abramovich has influence on the team selection. he was the one that sanctioned the 50m purchase of Torres after all

I doubt he has too much influence on it to be honest. As long as the team are winning everything every season he seems happy out :pac:

Ba playing in front of Chelsea's creative midfield on paper screams 'field day'. He's more of a Drogba-esque finisher and I think he'll be way better for the team than Torres.

Jax Teller

BroLo wrote: »

Is it very unlikely we could see them both starting?

Ba did a job on the wing for Newcastle before wouldn't be surprised to see him lineup out there occasionally .

roryc

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

They probably will play a Spain formation. Something along the lines of

Hazard Marin Mata Oscar Moses
_______Luiz Lampard _____


Not really though, he has to start, they've no one else to play there.

Why do people think Torres won't play tonight? Benitez said he needs to expect more time on the bench, but there's no suggestion that it will be starting tonight.

I expect him to play.

Jimmy Iovine

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I don't think the transfer will happen tbh.
Ba has a very bad knee that Newcastle have been hush hush about for a few years. He still has to complete a medical at Chelsea and he has failed them at the last 3 clubs who wanted to sign him. Including Newcastle apparently. Chelsea could still turn him down which wouldn't surprise me at all.

I think everyone knows about Ba's knee problems at the stage, so I doubt that'll be the stumbling block if there is one.

OctavarIan

Also regarding Ba's knee, it's not 'hush-hush' at all considering we know about it

£7m+wages to Chelsea is nothing, I'd say they'll take the risk.

manual_man

Rayne Wooney wrote: »

I don't think the transfer will happen tbh.
Ba has a very bad knee that Newcastle have been hush hush about for a few years. He still has to complete a medical at Chelsea and he has failed them at the last 3 clubs who wanted to sign him. Including Newcastle apparently. Chelsea could still turn him down which wouldn't surprise me at all.

in fairness since he's been at Newcastle he's rarely missed any games, and he's quite the beast strength-wise, although i'm sure thorough medicals will reveal if there is indeed anything to be worried about

brian plank

El festino wrote: »

:mad:

What did Rafa say?

"I'm resting Torres cos I have Joey O'Brien as me first sub. That should see me over 50 for the week and into the next round of the cup."

Rayne Wooney

roryc wrote: »

Why do people think Torres won't play tonight? Benitez said he needs to expect more time on the bench, but there's no suggestion that it will be starting tonight.

I expect him to play.

I didn't hear Benitez's comments but people were saying it sounded like Torres would be rested tonight. By what you're saying it must have been blown out of proportion

I think he'll play.

roryc

If its based on this I wouldn't read too much into it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/rafael-benitez-prepares-fernando-torres-for-the-bench-8434714.html

i REALLY need him to play, need the points AND need his value to rise.

Rayne Wooney

Yeah Chelsea will probably take the risk on Ba, it will be interesting to see if he passes the medical though.

In 2009 it was removed during emergency surgery at a German trauma clinic and in the course of that operation a tendon became damaged. A year later Hoffenheim sent him to the clinic of Ulrich Boenisch in Augsburg, who tidied up the knee but Ba failed medicals at Stuttgart and Stoke City before joining West Ham United.

He moved to Newcastle on a free transfer in 2011, agreeing a partial pay-as-you- play deal – understood to involve a basic £20,000 a week and another £20,000 for each appearance – after failing another medical.

"I don't need a surgeon to tell me about Demba's knee," Pardew said but he subsequently acknowledged that the striker suffers some discomfort in the knee joint.

The precise nature of the problem is a closely guarded secret. Pardew has described it as "a deficiency", revealed there "is a photograph [MRI scan] of Demba's knee looking very poorly" and indicated it will almost certainly cause him problems in the future.

One plausible theory is that chondral defects, namely the holes in the articular cartilage which spell bad news for footballers, could be involved but the issue has become something of a taboo subject.

Fizman

Fizman wrote: »

Before this GW I had a respectable 1039 points. Obviously I'm hoping for my big hitters to deliver tonight.

Jussi (2)
Cuellar, Bassong (1), Shawcross(1)
Caz (2), Michu (2), Mata (capt), Pienaar
Defoe (2), Suarez, Ba

Just when I thought the week couldn't get any worse.......I then hear about Ba and Pienaar! Jesus wept.

Lemlin

OctavarIan wrote: »

Also regarding Ba's knee, it's not 'hush-hush' at all considering we know about it

£7m+wages to Chelsea is nothing, I'd say they'll take the risk.

Plus they're off loading Sturridge for a premium fee.

GetWithIt

Ba out of tonight's match and now looks a rotation risk for the rest of the season. Very interested in how Papise Cisse plays tonight.

Chelsea have triggered the release clause in Newcastle forward Demba Ba's contract.

Ba, 27, has been given permission to speak to Chelsea and will miss Wednesday's game against Everton.

Mr.Nice Guy

My score is a disaster, mainly stemming from not sticking the captaincy on Van Persie. I've slipped about a thousand places overall.

I need captain Suarez to do well and a good Chelsea result to salvage something from this week or I may have to have a long cry.

El festino

brian plank wrote: »

"I'm resting Torres cos I have Joey O'Brien as me first sub. That should see me over 50 for the week and into the next round of the cup."

Rafa was always a shrewd manager in the cups.

El Horseboxo

Lemlin wrote: »

Plus they're off loading Sturridge for a premium fee.

Off loaded. He's gone and all. Didn't expect it to be that quick. Wonder how that affects Liverpools starting 11 going forward.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/liverpool-complete-sturridge-signing

Rayne Wooney

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Off loaded. He's gone and all. Didn't expect it to be that quick. Wonder how that affects Liverpools starting 11 going forward.

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/liverpool-complete-sturridge-signing

He said he was leaving because he wants to play in a CF role. Good luck with that at Liverpool Danny

roryc

Yeah well at least he might get to play some football, that wasn't happening at Chelsea!

KevIRL

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Torres could be rested tonight based on Rafa's comments today and Baines and Pienaar are doubts. Baines picked up an ankle injury and Pienaar has a dead leg.

Nooooooo have the 2 Everton lads.

Well Pienaar missing out wouldnt be too bad as Puncheon would come in, but definitely want that useless fukker Baines to play

wonski

Pienaar not playing? Osman on bench, maybe will pick some points from this game, but not to many...
Hope Suarez scores few tonight....

dahat

Bloody hope Suarez gets the Narvovirus before kick off tonight.....need him to have a non event of a game...

roryc

dahat wrote: »

Bloody hope Suarez gets the Narvovirus before kick off tonight.....need him to have a non event of a game...

He's getting sent off after 5 minutes for arguing with the ref over the own goal he scored.

SlickRic

dahat wrote: »

Bloody hope Suarez gets the Narvovirus before kick off tonight.....need him to have a non event of a game...

it's one of those nights where I want Liverpool to score a bucketload, because we fúcking well need the win.

but FF-wise, it'd be a bonus if Cuellar gets a cleanie.

i shouldn't need the cleanie too much, as long as Suarez keeps his scoring down to a minimum.

Liverpool winning 4-0 with a range of scorers that have nothing to do with Suarez would be awesome

BrownBear11

Mata to be dropped tonight hopefully