Toilet Attendents

Death and Taxes

Still waiting to hear what disease is cured by a plane ticket. I have the World Health Organization on hold!

juan.kerr

juan.kerr wrote: »

These boyos are at again then I see.

I wonder if these lads pay tax on their 'earnings'? If not send them packing back to Nigeria.

juan.kerr wrote: »

I suppose someone must like these guys...either that or you decided to take a break from attending the toilet to defend your profession.

juan.kerr wrote: »

The blacks in the jacks, eh?

juan.kerr wrote: »

Well if we all chip in for the one way plane tickets we can stamp this disease out in our lifetime.

juan.kerr wrote: »

You think these lads pay tax on their earnings? They are already claiming social welfare...

Banned

o1s1n

Froyo wrote: »

Off you go then.

Or are you just going to do the Irish thing and have a good whinge on the internet...;)

Well I am Irish, so I guess I'll be following the status quo and whinging on the internet. It usually works, right?

old hippy wrote: »

Just what the economy needs, make more people jobless. Ah suren, good oul Ireland, still going backwards and forwards at the same time. :rolleyes:

Ah right, I was unaware these were legit, tax paying jobs. I'll make sure to pile up my change in future. Together we can rebuild this economy through a liberal use of aftershave squirts and hand towels.

mikemac1

OP chased by an abusive worker, he should be sacked. Though those lads are not paid a wage so barred from the establishment is more correct then sacked

But some have focused in on the word African, thread derailed

The people who try to be the loudest about stamping out racism are the same people who see it everywhere

You don't have to take offense on behalf of others you know

MaxSteele

old hippy wrote: »

I see no "common sense" in your statement. Again, where is your proof?

C'mon old hippy. You can't be that naive to believe these lads are paying tax by handing out paper towels to drunks in a nightclub. It's a nixer. What service are they offering to be defined as a job role or profession ?

old hippy

How have I stifled your, er, "debate"? A load of ill informed predictable nonsense about toilet attendants and some questionable phrases thrown in for good measure?

You dug your own hole, jk.

old hippy

MaxSteele wrote: »

C'mon old hippy. You can't be that naive to believe these lads are paying tax by handing out paper towels to drunks in a nightclub. It's a nixer. What service are they offering to be defined as a job role or profession ?

Evidence, please.

Arpa

IM0 wrote: »

africans/racism check

Not racist. Mostly they are Africans. As soon as anyone sees a nationality posted in here they're ready to jump on the racist bandwagon. Stop trying to incite crap. Guys in the jacks in clubs are mostly from the continent of Africa.

old hippy

mikemac1 wrote: »

OP chased by an abusive worker, he should be sacked. Though those lads are not paid a wage so barred from the establishment is more correct then sacked

But some have focused in on the word African, thread derailed

The people who try to be the loudest about stamping out racism are the same people who see it everywhere

You don't have to offense on behalf of others you know

I focused on the words "disease", the "blacks in the jacks" and other choice comments. What do you see in those words, hmm?

I don't see racism everywhere, there are actually some topics which don't elicit tedious and dodgy commentary.

Ferris_Bueller

Find them far worse in other countries to be honest. Most of them are grand, some of them are even extremely friendly and helpful, but there are always one or two d*ckheads like the OP posted about. I remember in first year of college I saw one attendant punch a student in the toilets, for something like getting sick or breaking a glass! Overall I'm against them and would feel more comfortable if they weren't there, but I'd imagine they are important for security measures to stop fights/drug use in the bathrooms.

MaxSteele

old hippy wrote: »

Evidence, please.

Sure E-mail the Revenue Commission. They'll have loads of hard working toilet attendants liable for tax on record.

eyeroad yearowl one

old hippy wrote: »

Barely into 2013 and we have our first tedious excuse to have a go at black people and or Nigerians.

That's pretty racist. Not all black people are from Nigeria. I'd imagine someone from another African nation wouldn't like you assuming they are from Nigeria, nor would a Nigerian like someone to assume that a black toilet attendant must be Nigerian

old hippy

Arpa wrote: »

Not racist. Mostly they are Africans. As soon as anyone sees a nationality posted in here they're ready to jump on the racist bandwagon. Stop trying to incite crap. Guys in the jacks in clubs are mostly from the continent of Africa.

juan kerr's offensive comments incited the crap.

Why defend the hatred? Why perpetuate it?

Death and Taxes

mikemac1 wrote: »

OP chased by an abusive worker, he should be sacked. Though those lads are not paid a wage so barred from the establishment is more correct then sacked

But some have focused in on the word African, thread derailed

The people who try to be the loudest about stamping out racism are the same people who see it everywhere

You don't have to take offense on behalf of others you know

Nationality of ethic group/origin need not be mentioned in the first place then.
From what I can see the only one who did seize on it has been banned.

old hippy

eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »

That's pretty racist. Not all black people are from Nigeria. I'd imagine someone from another African nation wouldn't like you assuming they are from Nigeria, nor would a Nigerian like someone to assume that a black toilet attendant must be Nigerian

Read the thread again before sticking your oar in.

mikemac1

old hippy wrote: »

I focused on the words "disease", the "blacks in the jacks" and other choice comments. What do you see in those words, hmm?
.

You are talking about a poster that was banned

The OP didn't have any of these and racism was still brought into the thread

IM0 wrote: »

africans/racism check

Death and Taxes

eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »

That's pretty racist. Not all black people are from Nigeria. I'd imagine someone from another African nation wouldn't like you assuming they are from Nigeria, nor would a Nigerian like someone to assume that a black toilet attendant must be Nigerian

First post to mention Nigerians was post 6 by the now banned Juan Kerr, he brought it up first.

eyeroad yearowl one

eyeroad yearowl one wrote: »

That's pretty racist. Not all black people are from Nigeria. I'd imagine someone from another African nation wouldn't like you assuming they are from Nigeria, nor would a Nigerian like someone to assume that a black toilet attendant must be Nigerian

You're on thin ice for trolling. Have you read the entire thread?

ITS_A_BADGER

aw jesus here we go not 24 hours into the new year and a thread already derailed to racism.

Op's point is about toilet attendants not about the nationality of the attendant

Larianne

Complain to the club's management, OP.

A lot like chuggers, you can be polite, smile and say "No, thank you" and continue on your day/night/whatever.

old hippy

ITS_A_BADGER wrote: »

aw jesus here we go not 24 hours into the new year and a thread already derailed to racism.

Op's point is about toilet attendants not about the nationality of the attendant

CORRECT. jk made the offensive comments and focused on Nigerians - the people who took offense at that did NOT derail the thread.

LiamoSail

WileyCoyote wrote: »

Nationality of ethic group/origin need not be mentioned in the first place then.
From what I can see the only one who did seize on it has been banned.

People mention such things in a descriptive sense, be it the black taxi driver or the English barman etc. simply describing someone's ethnic origin doesn't constitute as racism or anything of the sort

spankysue

Christ, this went downhill quickly didn't it? :rolleyes:

That toilet attendant was being a d1ck to the OP. When I'm in a nightclub I don't use their perfumes or what have you, I bring tp out with me to dry my hands with, don't give them money but have never had any bother with them or their job

mikemac1

From another thread by another poster

true story: I was teaching a class which included a guy - Paul - who was black, had one arm, was in a wheelchair, and had an eyepatch.

A girl I worked with was sitting in on the class and at the end of the first session, she was telling me about your man and a question he had asked her. I asked "which one is Paul?"

She thought about it and said "..the guy with the beard".

This abusive workers background should not have been mentioned by the OP says WileyCoyote

You have to think twice these days before you describe anyone!

winston82

no splash, no gash.

Boombastic

Stealth Recce wrote: »

Ah I don't mind these guys*, but then again, I have never been chased out of a toilet and verbally abused and humiliated in front of people by one* either.

Il always be friendly to them*, ask them* a few polite questions, throw them* a bit of change and head on my way....with a pocket full of lollypops for the ladies.


* denotes "toilet attendants" - before anyone accuses me of being racist.

Sexist;)



Anyhow, no complaints about these toilet attendants (I don't go to clubs), once they don't expect me to give them money, isn't the price of using the facilities and the ambiance included in the price of the drink & entrance fee?


But running out after you??...definitely complain to the management in the cold hard sober light of day:(

old hippy

MaxSteele wrote: »

Sure E-mail the Revenue Commission. They'll have loads of hard working toilet attendants liable for tax on record.

Burden is on you to prove it, Max. Or continue to pedal gossip?

MyBrokenKnees

FTA69 wrote: »

So there I was last night, enjoying myself in a club as one does, when at the end of the night I pop into the jacks one last time before getting on the train.

Trains running at the early hours of the morning on New Years Eve after a night club?

That's what I got out of all of this! I bet those train drivers were on a nice earner driving trains at that time.

mackeire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iheZM6VBJfE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Mod

Posts deleted. Drop the racism talk, the only person who put forward racist comments has been banned. Move on.

old hippy

Right, back to toilet humour. Did someone mention crap? Drives me right round the u-bend, this lavatory malarkey. Still, if you don't likes it, you can always fight back and smash the cistern etc, etc ad infinitum.

Personally, I don't mind them - yes, it can be it a bit awkward and these days a bit of an extravagance but then again, it's people in jobs. Not great jobs, sure but can't begrudge people making a few bob in these harsh times. And if the sh!tty nature of the gig occasionally makes one shirty, well, that's forgiveable.

Death and Taxes

mikemac1 wrote: »

From another thread by another poster



This abusive workers background should not have been mentioned by the OP says WileyCoyote

You have to think twice these days before you describe anyone!

His background is surely immaterial.

bohsboy

winston82 wrote: »

no splash, no gash.

I heard this comment being screamed out by a toilet attendant recently every 20 secs. Nauseating to say the least. I despise them with a passion. Just blatantly ignore them.

As for them cleaning the toilets? No they dont. Too busy raking it in with their watered down aftershave.

A menace.

bohsboy

old hippy wrote: »

yes, it can be it a bit awkward and these days a bit of an extravagance but then again, it's people in jobs. Not great jobs, sure but can't begrudge people making a few bob in these harsh times. And if the sh!tty nature of the gig occasionally makes one shirty, well, that's forgiveable.

Do they pay tax?

Getting stroppy with customers in a toilet is not on. There is no need for them to be there.

old hippy

bohsboy wrote: »

Do they pay tax?

Getting stroppy with customers in a toilet is not on. There is no need for them to be there.

He shouldn't have lost it, I agree. Not very professional. Maybe he was having a bad day and took it out on the hapless individual. Not condoning it, though.

Do they not pay tax? I haven't yet seen any link or evidence that they don't?

FTA69

I don't give a sh*t about the fact they don't pay tax. There's far bigger problems in the world than someone getting tipped a few hundred quid a week in coins from people inside a pub. I just don't feel easy about a society that has people inside the toilets scraping for coins, I barely feel comfortable getting table service in a pub, never mind having migrant workers helping me to dry my hands. Then again having worked in clubs the lads themselves decide they want to do it and often make very good money in doing so. Many of them have very little other openings to make a few pound, especially in Ireland.

Old Hippy,

And if the sh!tty nature of the gig occasionally makes one shirty, well, that's forgiveable.

This however, is a load of crap. Following someone out of a toilet to shout at them for not giving you money for nothing, is disgraceful behaviour. End of story really. Who the hell is he to even raise his voice at me, never mind demand money?

FTA69

old hippy wrote: »

Do they not pay tax? I haven't yet seen any link or evidence that they don't?

They just throw the money into their pocket. It's tips after all, hardly a regular taxed wage from a company. And besides, who cares? Waitresses etc don't pay tax on their tips and rightly so.

Death and Taxes

FTA69 wrote: »

I don't give a sh*t about the fact they don't pay tax. There's far bigger problems in the world than someone getting tipped a few hundred quid a week in coins from people inside a pub. I just don't feel easy about a society that has people inside the toilets scraping for coins, I barely feel comfortable getting table service in a pub, never mind having migrant workers helping me to dry my hands. Then again having worked in clubs the lads themselves decide they want to do it and often make very good money in doing so. Many of them have very little other openings to make a few pound, especially in Ireland.

Old Hippy,



This however, is a load of crap. Following someone out of a toilet to shout at them for not giving you money for nothing, is disgraceful behaviour. End of story really. Who the hell is he to even raise his voice at me, never mind demand money?

What did the management say when you contacted them? Were they any use at all?

old hippy

FTA69 wrote: »

I don't give a sh*t about the fact they don't pay tax. There's far bigger problems in the world than someone getting tipped a few hundred quid a week in coins from people inside a pub. I just don't feel easy about a society that has people inside the toilets scraping for coins, I barely feel comfortable getting table service in a pub, never mind having migrant workers helping me to dry my hands. Then again having worked in clubs the lads themselves decide they want to do it and often make very good money in doing so. Many of them have very little other openings to make a few pound, especially in Ireland.

Old Hippy,



This however, is a load of crap. Following someone out of a toilet to shout at them for not giving you money for nothing, is disgraceful behaviour. End of story really. Who the hell is he to even raise his voice at me, never mind demand money?

Having done a lot of dreadful menial jobs over the years, I can empathise with the guy but I certainly don't meant to appear to condone his behaviour.

RainyDay

DOes this happen in ladies loos too, or is it limited to the gents?

Boombastic

WileyCoyote wrote: »

His background is surely immaterial.

Unless they have a history of killing/assaulting people for not paying to spend a penny (or €2, inflation :rolleyes:)

FTA69

WileyCoyote wrote: »

What did the management say when you contacted them? Were they any use at all?

I didn't bother to be honest, I was scuttered and just eager to get home. I probably should have said something in retrospect.

Boombastic

FTA69 wrote: »

I didn't bother to be honest, I was scuttered and just eager to get home. I probably should have said something in retrospect.

Next day, sober is always better, club management don't like drunk people complaining!!

Death and Taxes

FTA69 wrote: »

I didn't bother to be honest, I was scuttered and just eager to get home. I probably should have said something in retrospect.

Well you should contact them and complain, the guy was out of order.

ITS_A_BADGER

FTA69 wrote: »

I didn't bother to be honest, I was scuttered and just eager to get home. I probably should have said something in retrospect.

An employee following you out the restrooms shouting and demanding money off of you. Isnt what the club should be promoting tbh OP.

Think_then_talk

I can understand how some might not like toilet attendant's
getting in their way while useing the facility.
However do you not think its better then a lot of coke heads snorting.
As for the one's handing out lollypops come on its a loo.
Just thinking do they need Garda Vetting?. Lets hope the toilet attendant's
are covered under the employer's liability indemnity and not just working for tips.

winston82

no spray, no lay

Boombastic

Think_then_talk wrote: »

I can understand how some might not like toilet attendant's
getting in their way while useing the facility.
However do you not think its better then a lot of coke heads snorting.
As for the one's handing out lollypops come on its a loo.
Just thinking do they need Garda Vetting?. Lets hope the toilet attendant's
are covered under the employer's liability indemnity and not just working for tips.

Why do drunk people need/want lollipops?

RADIUS

old hippy wrote: »

Barely into 2013 and we have our first tedious excuse to have a go at black people and or Nigerians.

Hang around a few minutes and no doubt we'll have the first have a go at gays and or Travellers...

Oh come one, this is nothing to do with race! It's about the annoying prats who bug you while you're trying to use the jax.

God some people are so politically correct they can't even have a coherent conversation anymore.

RADIUS

old hippy wrote: »

juan kerr's offensive comments incited the crap.

Why defend the hatred? Why perpetuate it?

You started talking about racism BEFORE Juan Kerrs offensive comments.:D

In fact you brought it up. You're like some sort of reverse racist.