PS4 Megathread

ShadowHearth · 29-10-2013 3:52pm

So its on... PS4 vs Xbox one BF4. 900p vs 720p and PS4 has better AA. So it really means that Devs decided to use advantage of stronger console, not just retard ps4 version to xbox one level.

That is on launch titles. I bet the gap will become bigger later on?

Xenji · 29-10-2013 3:54pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

So its on... PS4 vs Xbox one BF4. 900p vs 720p and PS4 has better AA. So it really means that Devs decided to use advantage of stronger console, not just retard ps4 version to xbox one level.

That is on launch titles. I bet the gap will become bigger later on?

Quite possible, CoD might show up a even stronger difference between both consoles, as it will be natively 1080p on the PS4 and will have 1 million more pixels on the screen.

FlyingIrishMan · 29-10-2013 3:58pm

I'd actually expect the gap to decrease over time as the devs figure out how to better utilize eSRAM. Seeing as that seems to be what is causing most the trouble.

NTMK · 29-10-2013 4:01pm

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I'd actually expect the gap to decrease over time as the devs figure out how to better utilize eSRAM. Seeing as that seems to be what is causing most the trouble.

it will decrease for sure in some ways but the ESRAM wont mean much if this is a 7/8 year cycle again with the ps4 just having more raw power at the end of the day

ShadowHearth · 29-10-2013 4:08pm

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I'd actually expect the gap to decrease over time as the devs figure out how to better utilize eSRAM. Seeing as that seems to be what is causing most the trouble.

eSRAM optimisation will grow, but who said that PS4 architecture is not going to optimise even better? eSRAM in most cases is being looked as disadvantage already. Its like ps3 and 360 flipped this gen around.

NTMK · 29-10-2013 4:13pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

eSRAM optimisation will grow, but who said that PS4 architecture is not going to optimise even better? eSRAM in most cases is being looked as disadvantage already. Its like ps3 and 360 flipped this gen around.

eSRAM is a disadvantage right now but it will be optimised and close the gap. The ps4 will also get optimisations but they will be applicable to the Xbone too.

I see the gap being non-existant 3 years in with it extending again in the last 5-7

ShadowHearth · 29-10-2013 4:46pm

NTMK wrote: »

eSRAM is a disadvantage right now but it will be optimised and close the gap. The ps4 will also get optimisations but they will be applicable to the Xbone too.

I see the gap being non-existant 3 years in with it extending again in the last 5-7

I see it the other way around.

Gap being bigger later on. eSram will get optimisation, but again, PS4 wount be sitting there and ****. It will get even more optimisation and it will get even easier to code for already easier system.
I dont understand the logic behind gap being smaller later on, due to eSram being easier to work with. Having a stick in your arse will still be a stick in your arse even after few years when you learn to live with it. It is reported already that Esram is annoying system.

FlyingIrishMan · 29-10-2013 4:49pm

I think it'll be more of a case of diminishing returns. There is only so easy a console can get to develop for especially if it's already significantly easier than the competitor.

NTMK · 29-10-2013 4:55pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I see it the other way around.

Gap being bigger later on. eSram will get optimisation, but again, PS4 wount be sitting there and ****. It will get even more optimisation and it will get even easier to code for already easier system.
I dont understand the logic behind gap being smaller later on, due to eSram being easier to work with. Having a stick in your arse will still be a stick in your arse even after few years when you learn to live with it. It is reported already that Esram is annoying system.

I think were saying the same thing

The gap will be close for a year or two mid cycle cause they are very very similar once the eSRAM is removed from the equation. the esram will get alot of optimisations because its so rough.

Hardware (CPU/GPU) optimisations will benefit both systems since they're near identical

Games will get better optimisations too. to the point where they'll be running a one size fits all dev process again

at the end of the gen is when the ps4 will be the clear winner down to its shear raw power that no optimisation can overcome

Launch games are always badly optimized so its not a great judge

Xenji · 29-10-2013 5:00pm

Mark Cerny reckons you will not see the true benefits of the PS4 till around 2016, also he mentioned that due to the PC like architecture of the PS4 it will be possible to upgrade software and drivers through patching.

Otacon · 29-10-2013 5:11pm

Speaking of patches, the PS4 1.5 update patch is available to download here apparently. So you can download it and pop it on a USB stick ready to install on your PS4.

Better news though, is there is a recovery file here too, meaning that if for some reason, the update borks, you can recover your system. No more bricking updates (hopefully).

Link.

MarkY91 · 29-10-2013 6:25pm

Otacon wrote: »

Speaking of patches, the PS4 1.5 update patch is available to download here apparently. So you can download it and pop it on a USB stick ready to install on your PS4.

Better news though, is there is a recovery file here too, meaning that if for some reason, the update borks, you can recover your system. No more bricking updates (hopefully).

Link.

is the update 300mb? it shouldnt take too long to download but with the the amount of people trying to update at the same time could cause problems so i think ill put it on USB too to be on the same side

Grayditch · 29-10-2013 6:38pm

I'm toying with the idea of wrapping the PS4 up when I get it and leaving it til Christmas day. For the kid in me. But, the kid in me will probably open it before the day, so...

Xenji · 29-10-2013 6:44pm

MarkY91 wrote: »

is the update 300mb? it shouldnt take too long to download but with the the amount of people trying to update at the same time could cause problems so i think ill put it on USB too to be on the same side

You can download it in the background, you do not have to wait to download it before you can play any of the games.

29-10-2013 7:30pm

seriously whole update reactions (xbox one or PS4) are ridiculous. I love updates (windows, android, console) as it usually improves stuff.

and we have been waiting for PS4 for ages, if it downloads 5 minutes or 25, does it matter?

ShadowHearth · 29-10-2013 7:36pm

Grayditch wrote: »

I'm toying with the idea of wrapping the PS4 up when I get it and leaving it til Christmas day. For the kid in me. But, the kid in me will probably open it before the day, so...

I think we all know that wount work out lol.

jaffusmax · 29-10-2013 7:37pm

I would rather let my PS4 update on launch day on start up or download the update from an official SONY webpage.

Otacon · 29-10-2013 7:41pm

Grayditch wrote: »

I'm toying with the idea of wrapping the PS4 up when I get it and leaving it til Christmas day. For the kid in me. But, the kid in me will probably open it before the day, so...

PickledLime · 29-10-2013 9:27pm

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Physical, but you cant trade that in.

?

NTMK · 29-10-2013 9:35pm

PickledLime wrote: »

?

no barcode

PickledLime · 29-10-2013 10:00pm

NTMK wrote: »

no barcode

The retailers will still have the SKUs for the standalone title on system and will manually look it up.

Sephiroth_dude · 29-10-2013 10:42pm

Grayditch wrote: »

I'm toying with the idea of wrapping the PS4 up when I get it and leaving it til Christmas day. For the kid in me. But, the kid in me will probably open it before the day, so...

Same here,I have xmas exams the week after :-\.

nocoverart · 29-10-2013 11:28pm

Do you have to ring Gamestop to change credit card details lads? can't find an option on-site and emailed the pr1cks twice with no reply. Ordered my PS4 with my old CC details.

jaffusmax · 29-10-2013 11:44pm

nocoverart wrote: »

Do you have to ring Gamestop to change credit card details lads? can't find an option on-site and emailed the pr1cks twice with no reply. Ordered my PS4 with my old CC details.

Maybe go into store and get them to ring HQ. If the CC are wrong it will not ship!

COYVB · 30-10-2013 1:09am

so the bloody dual shock 4 doesnt come with a usb cable. im more angry about this than i should be

Xenji · 30-10-2013 1:18am

COYVB wrote: »

so the bloody dual shock 4 doesnt come with a usb cable. im more angry about this than i should be

Does it take the same connection as the DS3, as I have about 10 in a drawer.

Grayditch · 30-10-2013 1:20am

I think one comes with the PS4. They're about 2 quid on Ebay, anyway.

http://cdn1-www.playstationlifestyle.net/assets/uploads/2013/06/ps4retailcontents.jpg

COYVB · 30-10-2013 1:23am

Xenji wrote: »

Does it take the same connection as the DS3, as I have about 10 in a drawer.

Nope, it's micro USB. Same one as Android devices. I currently have no spares so have to bring my phone charger from my bedroom down to the living room. Absolute nuisance

Xenji · 30-10-2013 1:38am

COYVB wrote: »

Nope, it's micro USB. Same one as Android devices. I currently have no spares so have to bring my phone charger from my bedroom down to the living room. Absolute nuisance

Have about 10 of them as well, you can get one in any 2 euro store.

Grayditch · 30-10-2013 1:39am

It definitely doesn't come with the PS4?

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