PS4 Megathread

tok9

I'm planning on upgrading the hard drive to at least 1TB too.

Whatever about the caching, PS Plus has thought me you can never have enough space! :P

rolexeagle1

Otacon wrote: »

Just give me one of them!

I do like how small the boxes are too.

I saw somewhere is about half the size of he original ps3 box

Myrddin

After watching the recent tear-down video, it seemed that you had to peel off the tamper stickers in order to open the console to change the harddrive...is that so, or is there an access panel from the outside for changing it?

rolexeagle1

The PS4 really does look quite slim... well compared to the XboxONE anyway

tok9

Myrddin wrote: »

After watching the recent tear-down video, it seemed that you had to peel off the tamper stickers in order to open the console to change the harddrive...is that so, or is there an access panel from the outside for changing it?

I thought all you had to do was slide off the top and then unscrew the 1 screw.

It won't void your warranty anyway.

Myrddin

tok9 wrote: »

I thought all you had to do was slide off the top and then unscrew the 1 screw.

It won't void your warranty anyway.

Maybe its just the way the guy went about stripping down the console so

wes

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

I'm just after buying one of these for the ps4

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Solid-State-Disk/85978/Samsung+SSD+840+EVO+Basic+1TB+SATA+6Gb+s.article

I didn't really but one can dream

That costs more than the console :eek:.

Will probably upgrade myself next year, but will probably go with a more cost effective hybrid drive, and whatever the largest storage is at the time.

Kerplunk124

ahnowbrowncow wrote: »

I'm just after buying one of these for the ps4

http://www.hardwareversand.de/Solid-State-Disk/85978/Samsung+SSD+840+EVO+Basic+1TB+SATA+6Gb+s.article

I didn't really but one can dream

You can get a 1TB on amazon for like 80 quid

miralize

Kerplunk124 wrote: »

You can get a 1TB on amazon for like 80 quid

Its an SSD.

LauraW7746

Otacon wrote: »

It uses caching so instead of a mandatory install that stays on your HDD, it installs almost the entire disk, which then gets deleted when you take it out of the drive. That way you get the benefits of installed software without using up too much space.

Ok I kinda get it now thanks. Is this a mandatory thing for all games? Do I have to delete that data myself? I'm considering getting a WD Scorpio blue 1tb and upgrading straight off.

Xenji

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Xenji

LauraW7746 wrote: »

Ok I kinda get it now thanks. Is this a mandatory thing for all games? Do I have to delete that data myself? I'm considering getting a WD Scorpio blue 1tb and upgrading straight off.

It will happen with all games, it installs and deletes data as you play the game, it will do it automatically for you, you can play as many games as you want this way as long as you have 50 gigs of free space on your hard drive.

Lucreto

The PS4 will have a small install but the rest is cached on the HDD. The cache will delete itself but there will still be an install on the HDD.

LauraW7746

Ok so if for example I think killzone has a 25-30gig install it's really not that big? It's condensed down to a lot less than that?
Sorry for all the questions I'm not good with the technical stuff. I'm trying to make out if I'll have to upgrade hard drive straight away.

Klair88

LauraW7746 wrote: »

Ok so if for example I think killzone has a 25-30gig install it's really not that big? It's condensed down to a lot less than that?
Sorry for all the questions I'm not good with the technical stuff. I'm trying to make out if I'll have to upgrade hard drive straight away.

I think its 40+ gig. So PS4 HDD needs 50GB to install, you stick in the disc and it starts to install straight away while you're playing.

If you only play 2 hours and it installs 25Gb of Game data, then you take out the KZ disc and stick in ACIV, That 25gb of installed Killzone is gone from the HDD.

It only needs to install the full amount while you're playing it. If you stop playing the game the Space on the HDD becomes free again.

Only works for Disc, obviously you need to install the full amount if you buy digitally.

Xenji

LauraW7746 wrote: »

Ok so if for example I think killzone has a 25-30gig install it's really not that big? It's condensed down to a lot less than that?
Sorry for all the questions I'm not good with the technical stuff. I'm trying to make out if I'll have to upgrade hard drive straight away.

Essentially the PS4 allocates a portion of the hard drive to cache game data for the game you are currently playing. It uses this data like it would any other install (permanent of not).

The difference is, once you are done with the game or want to play a different game, this data is flushed and the same partition on the hard drive is used for the data cache of the next game. Thus negating the need to do a 40-50Gb permanent install for each game.

Killzone according to Guerilla games takes just over 2 minutes from when you put in the game to when you are playing the first level.

Myrddin

That all sounds very laser intensive, here's hoping the laser diodes are up to the task

Otacon

I am going all-digital this gen.

Received this yesterday. Now all I need is a PS4 to put it in.

ShadowHearth

I would not go Crazy with ssds lads. there is no prove it will be actually faster. As we know in ps3 case you are better off getting same speed Hdd when you upgrading it, due to some issues.

I am sticking with 500gb for now myself. No point upgrading now. I am not oging to go fully digital, so 500gb still should be okay.

Myrddin

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I would not go Crazy with ssds lads. there is no prove it will be actually faster. As we know in ps3 case you are better off getting same speed Hdd when you upgrading it, due to some issues.

I am sticking with 500gb for now myself. No point upgrading now. I am not oging to go fully digital, so 500gb still should be okay.

It was shown on the PS3 that SSD's did make a difference

Xenji

Right this video is all kinds of crazy and if you go to the url you see in it http://www.hadoukencabs.com/, it is even crazier, wonder what they are at

http://www.vg247.com/2013/11/08/ps4-gets-bizarre-hadouken-cabs-viral-teaser-watch-it-here/

Klair88

Xenji wrote: »

Right this video is all kinds of crazy and if you go to the url you see in it http://www.hadoukencabs.com/, it is even crazier, wonder what they are at

http://www.vg247.com/2013/11/08/ps4-gets-bizarre-hadouken-cabs-viral-teaser-watch-it-here/

Street Fighter. Maybe PS4 exclusive too as it uses the 4ThePlayers Hashtag.

Xenji

Well we all know how mad for handheld games the Japanese are, but in a really striking statistic only one PS3 game has been included in the Japanese 100 top-selling games between January 1, 2001 to September 29th, 2013.

Full List here http://www.vg247.com/2013/11/08/famitsu-reveals-japans-100-best-selling-games-of-the-century/

Xenji

Sums it up very well

stevenmu

Klair88 wrote: »

I think its 40+ gig. So PS4 HDD needs 50GB to install, you stick in the disc and it starts to install straight away while you're playing.

If you only play 2 hours and it installs 25Gb of Game data, then you take out the KZ disc and stick in ACIV, That 25gb of installed Killzone is gone from the HDD.

It only needs to install the full amount while you're playing it. If you stop playing the game the Space on the HDD becomes free again.

Only works for Disc, obviously you need to install the full amount if you buy digitally.

So if you want to play Killzone again afterwards, it has to do the install again?

Xenji

stevenmu wrote: »

So if you want to play Killzone again afterwards, it has to do the install again?

Yeah but it is all done in the background so you will be playing it in about 2 minutes.

Myrddin

stevenmu wrote: »

So if you want to play Killzone again afterwards, it has to do the install again?

Yeah it sounds that way, but I gather it's an install 'on-the-fly' while you're actually playing maybe?

Varik

stevenmu wrote: »

So if you want to play Killzone again afterwards, it has to do the install again?

I doubt it, it likely will only delete the cached data as a new game is being installed. So it'll be faster the second time unless you've play another game in the meantime.

Klair88

stevenmu wrote: »

So if you want to play Killzone again afterwards, it has to do the install again?

Yep! But you never see it or have to wait for it. The PS4 reads and plays from the Disc while simultaneously installing in the Background. You'll essentially never notice it doing it.

This is my understanding of Caching, might handle a little different on the actual system.

When the US get it in 7 days we'll know everything.

Myrddin

Varik wrote: »

I doubt it, it likely will only delete the cached data as a new game is being installed. So it'll be faster the second time unless you've play another game in the meantime.

So it leaves a partial installation, & deletes the cached content upon disc removal. The 2nd time you play it won't have to do a full install again, but only transfer over data to be cached?