PS4 Megathread

Josey Wales

We're shifting our platform more and more to the digital side – PS4 will be similar to PS Vita in that every game will be available as a digital download, and some will also be available as a disc.

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So now that it is confirmed that all PS4 games will be available digitally will you stop buy disc based games? For me personally, I will stick with discs. I wouldn't trust a company to have my best interests at heart when it comes to a digital library of games.

heebusjeebus

Brian_Zeluz wrote: »

Lucasarts is one of the 3rd party devs supporting ps4, for the sake of everyone everywhere please let this finally be Battlefront 3.

More than likely Star Wars 1313

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQyGu4EqZsU

ShadowHearth

Josey Wales wrote: »

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So now that it is confirmed that all PS4 games will be available digitally will you stop buy disc based games? For me personally, I will stick with discs. I wouldn't trust a company to have my best interests at heart when it comes to a digital library of games.

I will be honest, Sony had me by the balls with digital games. I am a pc gamer and i got a taste of steam. so why not to have same thing on your PSN platform.
So far i got only one boxed game for ps vita and all of the rest are digital. I love it. Though after PS4 conference they quite lost me with digital versions of games.
Sony pushing so hard digital version of games, but then it did that madness, which is: no support for your PSN stuff on ps4. I know they offer cloud services for those games, but i am lucky to have 8mbit connection where i live. they tried giving me 12mbit and line pooped itself and died. I am not even talking about people who are still on 1-2mbit connections. There are a lot of them!

So i learned that console will never be like PC. the very first game i got on my steam account is HL2. I got it about 6-7 years ago. I can still download it on any Pc and play it. Even if my hardware changed so many times! With Console we will never get that. PS4 just proved it.

In away i cant blame sony for doing it now. Its like choosing between two evils. They went for lesser one. I prefer proper platform, which is easy to develop and has future, then them going deeper in to that cell crap. Sony had to do it. Better now, then later.

Again, i am not bashing Ps and saying derp derp PC is better. Its just Sony will need to prove that all my digital stuff will be supported as long as SONY as company exists. I will try to stick with physical Copies as long as possible for consoles from now on.

FlyingIrishMan

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I will be honest, Sony had me by the balls with digital games. I am a pc gamer and i got a taste of steam. so why not to have same thing on your PSN platform.
So far i got only one boxed game for ps vita and all of the rest are digital. I love it. Though after PS4 conference they quite lost me with digital versions of games.
Sony pushing so hard digital version of games, but then it did that madness, which is: no support for your PSN stuff on ps4. I know they offer cloud services for those games, but i am lucky to have 8mbit connection where i live. they tried giving me 12mbit and line pooped itself and died. I am not even talking about people who are still on 1-2mbit connections. There are a lot of them!

So i learned that console will never be like PC. the very first game i got on my steam account is HL2. I got it about 6-7 years ago. I can still download it on any Pc and play it. Even if my hardware changed so many times! With Console we will never get that. PS4 just proved it.

In away i cant blame sony for doing it now. Its like choosing between two evils. They went for lesser one. I prefer proper platform, which is easy to develop and has future, then them going deeper in to that cell crap. Sony had to do it. Better now, then later.


Again, i am not bashing Ps and saying derp derp PC is better. Its just Sony will need to prove that all my digital stuff will be supported as long as SONY as company exists. I will try to stick with physical Copies as long as possible for consoles from now on.

But isn't it the same with your physical discs? You won't be able to play them on your PS4 either so you're in the exact same situation as not being able to play any downloaded games.

With the PS5 if there is one, I imagine it will be much more likely for them to support digital games from PS4 rather than physical PS4 games.

ShadowHearth

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

But isn't it the same with your physical discs? You won't be able to play them on your PS4 either so you're in the exact same situation as not being able to play any downloaded games.

With the PS5 if there is one, I imagine it will be much more likely for them to support digital games from PS4 rather than physical PS4 games.

that is true too, but i will still have my old ps3 and all the discs for it. My internet connection wont allow me streaming and if i have no internet connection i always can pop that sucker in and play.

I LOVE digital games. I havent bought non digital game in freaking ages, but i am not that pushed to go full digital with consoles just yet.

Captain Chaos

I won't be pushed on pure digital downloads until they get the prices in order. I only buy what's discounted on PSN. There is Crysis 3 for €69.99 on PSN:eek:. It's €49.99 in most b&m shops and even cheaper on Amazon. What happen to all the non sense years ago about digital downloads being cheaper than physical copies as the shops don't have to worry about overheads such as staff wages and rent?

Grayditch

Captain Chaos wrote: »

I won't be pushed on pure digital downloads until they get the prices in order. I only buy what's discounted on PSN. There is Crysis 3 for €69.99 on PSN:eek:. It's €49.99 in most b&m shops and even cheaper on Amazon. What happen to all the non sense years ago about digital downloads being cheaper than physical copies as the shops don't have to worry about overheads such as staff wages and rent?

Yeah, I don't understand why games are 70 quid to download.

ShadowHearth

I really like this guy. Finally GT dag up something good.

He has a very good point/points.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qcv4np/playstation-4-playstation-meeting-takeaways

NTMK

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I really like this guy. Finally GT dag up something good.

He has a very good point/points.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qcv4np/playstation-4-playstation-meeting-takeaways

he did make some good points about the conference esp how light on details it was. it felt like it was done just to beat ms out of the block.

MS have pushed there announcement from may to April and i expect the same thing from them and concrete details at e3

its a big game of information chicken regarding specs and release dates

CiDeRmAn

The worst offender is Nintendo, who are charging more for newly released games from the E-Shop than a physical copy, not good, not good at all.

Varik

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

The worst offender is Nintendo, who are charging more for newly released games from the E-Shop than a physical copy, not good, not good at all.

At least with the PS3 I can put the downloaded game on more than one consoles, I bought Far cry 3 during the sale for €25 ish and have it going playing co-op on my 2 PS3s. Have Borderlands 1/2 that way as well, and most games where it has a good MP I'll get it digitally, unless is vastly worse than retail in which case I won't bother at all with the digital.

Anything you buy on the Wii U is stuck on that Wii U.

If Sony and the publishers want to make everyone jump on digital for PS4 then they need to push more cross-buy, from the look of the games announced the PS4 will be getting most of what the PS3 gets at first (diablo, BF4, Destiny). Buy BF4 digitally (hopefully not for an insane price) and you get the download for the PS3 and PS4 versions and it's can use your saves and unlocks from the PS3 version when you do get a PS4.

aindriu80

I think I read somewhere that you could upload games to PS+ in the future. Is that the case ?

Varik

aindriu80 wrote: »

I think I read somewhere that you could upload games to PS+ in the future. Is that the case ?

What do you mean?

Remote play/streaming the gameplay?

Icyseanfitz

ShadowHearth wrote: »

I really like this guy. Finally GT dag up something good.

He has a very good point/points.

http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/qcv4np/playstation-4-playstation-meeting-takeaways

i love that guy

ShadowHearth

Varik wrote: »

At least with the PS3 I can put the downloaded game on more than one consoles, I bought Far cry 3 during the sale for €25 ish and have it going playing co-op on my 2 PS3s. Have Borderlands 1/2 that way as well, and most games where it has a good MP I'll get it digitally, unless is vastly worse than retail in which case I won't bother at all with the digital.

Anything you buy on the Wii U is stuck on that Wii U.

If Sony and the publishers want to make everyone jump on digital for PS4 then they need to push more cross-buy, from the look of the games announced the PS4 will be getting most of what the PS3 gets at first (diablo, BF4, Destiny). Buy BF4 digitally (hopefully not for an insane price) and you get the download for the PS3 and PS4 versions and it's can use your saves and unlocks from the PS3 version when you do get a PS4.

In fairness they doing great pricing with PS vita titles. Some games were cheaper buying it directly from sony digitally and only some were a bit more expensive. Older games droping nicely in price too. So its not like xbox where Halo 3 was 69.99eu digitally and you could pick that up second hand for 5eu and new for 6eu...

If sony will keep up with that pricing, then we are quite safe. They do quite awesome Sales lately too.

aindriu80

Varik wrote: »

What do you mean?

Remote play/streaming the gameplay?

just found it on eurogamer..

During its press conference Sony mentioned in passing that PS4 would support new business models, including free-to-play and episodic, and offer self-publishing on the Store, but it didn't go into detail

It seems as though it will be possible to self publish on the store. Potentially it might make it easier for developers to put up their games ?

gizmo

aindriu80 wrote: »

It seems as though it will be possible to self publish on the store. Potentially it might make it easier for developers to put up their games ?

Was having a wee dig around on Friday and came across this...

Why PlayStation?

With the ability to self-publish across PlayStation Network, PS® Vita, and PlayStation Mobile there’s a PlayStation platform for every game. No slotting, no voting. You are the publisher!

Get started in 3 easy Steps!

Fill in and return the Company Information Form.
Review and return the NDA & Tools Loan Agreement (sent to you once we receive your information).
Complete registration for PlayStation DevNet.

Become a Registered Developer

Not sure what kind of caveats this comes with but it'll certainly be interesting for indies coming into the next gen.

Varik

While, I hope we see a lot of indie stuff I would rather Sony only put content up after checking it rather than allowing everything up and then taking the crap off. There's a lot of stuff on the App store and Google play that shouldn't be.

aindriu80

Varik wrote: »

While, I hope we see a lot of indie stuff I would rather Sony only put content up after checking it rather than allowing everything up and then taking the crap off. There's a lot of stuff on the App store and Google play that shouldn't be.

They could put a filter the store or something. Still it would be potentially be good for a developer or game player, you might get a few games worth playing.

I wouldn't mind checking out the kit and trying to put something together.

Taltos

Agree - some filter or category bundled with maybe a user review system might help limit the amount of dross.
If they do implement this then a latest section to allow newer games to vault up the charts would be useful.

This thread now has me 2nd guessing putting a pre-order in
A part of me is going "remember the ps3" - another part is going "remember DRAKE - just do IT".

FlyingIrishMan

Some nice ultra high res photos of the controller here:

http://ps4daily.com/2013/02/ultra-high-res-photos-of-the-playstation-4-controller/

That and, Sony will be shipping the PS4 with a bundled headset which is great, hopefully its a decent one as voice quality on PS3 sucked.

shuffles03

How many have actually pre ordered? I haven't done so yet. Although for just €20 and adding a bit of excitement, I might.

I have a feeling sales of the PS4 will be a lot higher than when the Wii U was released. The average joe will immediately know that the PS4 is the successor to the 3. There won't be any messing around with the name to confuse them to just think it's another iteration/add on.

Varik

shuffles03 wrote: »

How many have actually pre ordered? I haven't done so yet. Although for just €20 and adding a bit of excitement, I might.

Don't trust Gamestop not to **** us over on price at release so I'll wait till Amazon put it up and then may cancel and pre-order somewhere else if I'm able.

shuffles03

Do Amazon charge for pre ordering?

Sephiroth_dude

shuffles03 wrote: »

Do Amazon charge for pre ordering?

No they charge you when there about to ship.

shuffles03

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

No they charge you when there about to ship.

Might do that so

Varik

shuffles03 wrote: »

Might do that so

You can cancel right up until it ships, but that could happen earlier than they say so it's not that good to be leaving it to the last minute.

I wait till I see what prices the brick and mortar shops have bundles for and then see if I can get on a list, It may mean that I stuck ordering from amazon with the inherent delay but it's better than putting money down only to find that the shop is charging a fortune for it.

Edit: while it's not up yet Amazon have put up for their email alerts.

ShadowHearth

Dunno, i did came around a bit on ps4, and i do have a small fund for "next gen console", which i will top up when i got few quid.

Though pre-ordering now is a bit mad. Not enough info, no confirmed price, thing is not even exist in physical form, only as fixed hardware in PC form, we dont know what competition has to offer, what release games will we get? List goes on and on.
99% i will end up with both consoles, but i want those big boys to fight for my money and give me the best deal. If we preorder now and will eat another hype pie, then why should they try harder?

Peanut Butter Jelly

I'll wait until after E3 to decide which one I'll get.

Richard Dower

I pre ordered in my local Smyth's.....

20 squid, first on the list