PS4 Megathread

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But presumably Sony cannot afford to take huge early strategic losses on the PS4 the same way it did with the PS3?

It's hemorrhaging cash

Sony shares dropped the most in four years after reporting an eighth consecutive quarter of losses, an unpleasant surprise for investors who borrowed money to buy the stock on bets the weaker yen would help turn around Japan’s biggest exporter of consumer electronics.

Beefy78

I'm not sure why people are worried about the new game price point. As others have said, it's the same price that the RRP for new games is today.

Games will definitely be more expensive in a year or two's time because of the failure of the main two places to buy games on the high street and the closing of the tax loop-hole that several websites exploited. It's not a PS3/X720 thing though.

mcpaddington

Vyse wrote: »

Why? There's a reason PC games are cheaper than console games, the publisher doesn't have to pay a licence fee to Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo.

You expected the games to rise to €70 a pop, I know Sony takes a cut of the spoils but I pointed out that because the ps4 is now basically a pc it should cost the companies far less to program for, which would if anything cause the price of games to drop rather than rise.

WolfForager

Just rewatched the intro video to the conference, forgot how awesome it is. Sony can really play the nostalgia card, the last 40 seconds are epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fMRYPZ4Jek

aindriu80

WolfForager wrote: »

Just rewatched the intro video to the conference, forgot how awesome it is. Sony can really play the nostalgia card, the last 40 seconds are epic.

Couldn't agree more!

Varik

mcpaddington wrote: »

You expected the games to rise to €70 a pop, I know Sony takes a cut of the spoils but I pointed out that because the ps4 is now basically a pc it should cost the companies far less to program for, which would if anything cause the price of games to drop rather than rise.

If they raise the price it won't be down to development costs, it'll be because they think they can get that price. What something costs to manufacture does not dictate the prices, what does is how much customers are willing to pay for it and the profits from it. The development/manufacturing cost are used to decide if you should go ahead with a project at all.

aindriu80

engadget

The new interface looks nice. I guess it really depends on how it responds to users than what it looks like.

Otacon

aindriu80 wrote: »

The new interface looks nice. I guess it really depends on how it responds to users than what it looks like.

I'm not sure I like the main UI. It seems like a cross between the Metro UI and Facebook's timeline stuff. Depends on how it works though.

aindriu80

Otacon wrote: »

I'm not sure I like the main UI. It seems like a cross between the Metro UI and Facebook's timeline stuff. Depends on how it works though.

I couldn't put my finger on it but it seems to shape up a bit like what the new store is like. If you like the new store then fine. I think its a bit clunky and maybe the new interface is awkward ?

Varik

Otacon wrote: »

I'm not sure I like the main UI. It seems like a cross between the Metro UI and Facebook's timeline stuff. Depends on how it works though.

If it was just the analogue sticks and D-pad then this would suck but with a touch pad it should be good.

I can't wait for some of these great exclusive.....like
Combat Plane 2

Otacon

Varik wrote: »

I can't wait for some of these great exclusive.....like
Combat Plane 2

Or Racing Star. Looks sweet!

:pac:

CastorTroy

220 trophies in Knack? Think that's taking the p!ss. "You have moved an inch" "You have moved to a new room".

Curious now if Killzone and Infamous were in that when it flashed on screen before their announcements.

mcpaddington

Varik wrote: »

If they raise the price it won't be down to development costs, it'll be because they think they can get that price. What something costs to manufacture does not dictate the prices, what does is how much customers are willing to pay for it and the profits from it. The development/manufacturing cost are used to decide if you should go ahead with a project at all.

Look i'm trying to make the point that logically prices should drop rather than rise, I know realistically speaking that they'll charge whatever to get as much profit as possible. Stop reading between the lines.

AlmightyCushion

aindriu80 wrote: »

engadget

The new interface looks nice. I guess it really depends on how it responds to users than what it looks like.

The blue is way too over powering on it.

aindriu80

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

The blue is way too over powering on it.

It's a bit better to the colour they use on the new store.

I can't call it an operating system, its more of a series of tiles showing a preset gamer information. No sign of apps or browser. It might be a bit boring but I guess its really about the games.

sin0city

aindriu80 wrote: »

It's a bit better to the colour they use on the new store.

I can't call it an operating system, its more of a series of tiles showing a preset gamer information. No sign of apps or browser. It might be a bit boring but I guess its really about the games.

Looks a bit cluttered. I like my XMB.
Except for you Singstar. You and I will never be friends.

CastorTroy

sin0city wrote: »

Looks a bit cluttered. I like my XMB.
Except for you Singstar. You and I will never be friends.

Singstar, the Kip Drordy of PS3

tok9

As long as it's responsive I'll be happy. The ps store is an absolute pain to deal with, takes ages to do anything.

shuffles03

WolfForager wrote: »

Just rewatched the intro video to the conference, forgot how awesome it is. Sony can really play the nostalgia card, the last 40 seconds are epic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fMRYPZ4Jek

That video pretty much summed up my last 15 years of gaming. I still remember getting enough money for my confirmation all those years ago to buy a console. I nearly bought a Sega Saturn but the guy in Game convinced me to get a Playstation. Bravo sir. Bravo to you.

CiDeRmAn

[sarcasm] Yeah, imagine being stuck with Marvel Vs Capcom, Burning Rangers, Nights, Sega Rally, Panzer Dragoon Zwei, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Daytona, Xmen Children of the Atom and Radiant Silvergun... the horror the horror.... [/sarcasm]

maximoose

I don't know why, but the way that video has

PUSH THE
BOUNDARIES
OF
PLAY

instead of

PUSH
THE
..etc

annoys me.

Great video otherwise

mdwexford

All the video uploading and sharing and streaming and friend tripe looks so stupid.

Might as well call it Playstation Facebook, and thats not a good thing.

MarkY91

mdwexford wrote: »

All the video uploading and sharing and streaming and friend tripe looks so stupid.

Might as well call it Playstation Facebook, and thats not a good thing.

everyone likes to share everything these days. theyre only giving what the average gamer would want. some of it would be handy. but others would be useless sharing stuff like with facebook

Morpork

mdwexford wrote: »

All the video uploading and sharing and streaming and friend tripe looks so stupid.

Might as well call it Playstation Facebook, and thats not a good thing.

Streaming and uploading is massive at the moment, so there are many people who would disagree with you.

For me, it's one of the more exciting aspects of the hardware. I've always wished I had capture hardware while playing games to upload some great moments or full playthroughs.
Also, since local multi-player is basically in the past, it's a great way for me to share my experiences with my friends and get involved with theirs.

And of course, it seems that this side of the Playstation can be totally avoided if you want it that way.

MarkY91

Morpork wrote: »

Streaming and uploading is massive at the moment, so there are many people who would disagree with you.

For me, it's one of the more exciting aspects of the hardware. I've always wished I had capture hardware while playing games to upload some great moments or full playthroughs.
Also, since local multi-player is basically in the past, it's a great way for me to share my experiences with my friends and get involved with theirs.

And of course, it seems that this side of the Playstation can be totally avoided if you want it that way.

i know you can stream your gameplay to your psn account for people to wathc on their ps4. but can it be streamed online for people to watch on pc?

FlyingIrishMan

mdwexford wrote: »

All the video uploading and sharing and streaming and friend tripe looks so stupid.

Might as well call it Playstation Facebook, and thats not a good thing.

I really don't understand why people have a problem with this.. if you don't want to use the social features, its simple... don't.
Sony have said they will respect people's privacy and won't force anybody to use the social features.

mdwexford

Morpork wrote: »

Streaming and uploading is massive at the moment, so there are many people who would disagree with you.

For me, it's one of the more exciting aspects of the hardware. I've always wished I had capture hardware while playing games to upload some great moments or full playthroughs.
Also, since local multi-player is basically in the past, it's a great way for me to share my experiences with my friends and get involved with theirs.

And of course, it seems that this side of the Playstation can be totally avoided if you want it that way.

Uploading funny videos or stuff to Youtube or Facebook maybe but I wont have any interest in some goal one of my mates scored in Fifa or something. Maybe thats just me.

Personally I miss local multiplayer and found it much more fun than playing online. I guess im just an old dinosaur.

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I really don't understand why people have a problem with this.. if you don't want to use the social features, its simple... don't.
Sony have said they will respect people's privacy and won't force anybody to use the social features.

I dont have a problem and realise I can ignore these features to some degree.

Guess I would just rather they focused their efforts elsewhere rather than stuff im not interested in.

FlyingIrishMan

mdwexford wrote: »

Guess I would just rather they focused their efforts elsewhere rather than stuff im not interested in.

Thats not selfish at all...

mdwexford

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Thats not selfish at all...

Yeah I guess I should think of all the poor little teenagers who want to send each other gold coins and clips of them clearing parts of games.

GTFO

aindriu80

one thing i do like is being able to see the actual game before i jump into a game. There has been a fair few times when the round is nearly over and I wished I could have known that before I joined. Sometimes it would take a fair few attempts to get a good multiplayer game.