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Was the Ira really that popular in the 70s,80s or 90s

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  • #152
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    barney 20v wrote: »
    Different views that's all , this is a discussion not a debate BTW.
    And resorting to personal abuse does you no favours     ...and for the record I mainly posted about my perception from an Irish catholic living in the republic.
    If your inferring I am trolling by all means contact a mod, I stand Over my posts.
    Once again to be Irish /catholic and non pro sinn fein seems to make one a troll in many posters eyes.

    Like wise Barney ;)

    I'm usually very careful not to cross the line to personal abuse, if you feel I have, the report post button is to the left of this post, down at the bottom, with a ! Displayed on it.


  • #153
    barney 20v
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭barney 20v


    Ghandee wrote: »

    Like wise Barney ;)

    I'm usually very careful not to cross the line to personal abuse, if you feel I have, the report post button is to the left of this post, down at the bottom, with a ! Displayed on it.
    I will review your posts and if I feel its warranted I most certainly will.also the report button varies in location depending on which device/app you use! A little heads up eh ?!


  • #154
    SV
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,534 ✭✭✭SV


    barney 20v wrote: »
    I will review your posts and if I feel its warranted I most certainly will.also the report button varies in location depending on which device/app you use! A little heads up eh ?!

    kinda rough that you're that desperate to be right somewhere in this thread that you'd mention that.
    petty.


  • #155
    barney 20v
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭barney 20v


    SV wrote: »

    kinda rough that you're that desperate to be right somewhere in this thread that you'd mention that.
    petty.
    Helpful I thought ...?


  • #156
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Possibly trolling, undecided atm.

    Possibly trolling? Possible deliberate derailing? Attention seeking? With 3 times as many posts as the next nearest poster... who's to know?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Ah sure then!
    barney 20v wrote: »
    In what way?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Omagh chuck.... Omagh.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    I can... only one part of that post though... Have you ever considered why the difference developed?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Completely aware ty, they were/are part of the ira greater cause though correct? Also this thread does not identify any particular ira faction in its original post....they operated in the 90's correct?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    One word for it I guess....
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Sinn fein would love that......
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Oh trust me, one sinn fein is one too many.
    And please explain your comments regarding your opinion of my inability to discern groups and eras...
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Rira-omagh.....
    This thread is not provisional ira specific before someone else sprouts that one again.
    Omagh,
    barney 20v wrote: »
    He's lucky? To have you to answer... Unfortunately your words do not count etc.... Sound familiar ?
    To me a republican murderer is still Just that, regardless of what group he/she attaches themselves to.

    As previously explained to you on another thread I am FULLY aware of the different sf/ira factions and the illegal activities .
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Does it state prov ira only in the op?
    Surely the Rira atrocities in Omagh are pertinent to this thread and subsequent Rira/circ/prov ira popularity !
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Indeed,however as this thread is about the ira in whatever incarnation I choose only to comment on republican murders... Fair enough?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Nor does the op exclude other factions... The op does not clearly define that its your version of the ira exclusively. I agree with what you say about Omagh . Still Republican murderers though.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Bringing up Omagh etc is necessary to show why the Republican movement fell on its ass in the late 90's. Not nit picking - just stating facts old boy!
    barney 20v wrote: »
    I didn't pick the topic , the op did... Pm them perhaps?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Sorry but at 19 you were an adult... Saying you were a child etc is not accurate.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Why do you ask?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    All about context... Nothing more
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Just because you do not recognise rira as true republicans does not hide the fact they claim to act on behalf of the republican cause. You can call them "so called" republicans I call Them republican murderers. To me their is no distinction . I am of the opinion that although the early stages of the peace process had started Omagh was one republican fcuk up too far. Let me remind you the rira for the most part originated from the prov ira.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Attacking the poster not the post....sf way ?
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Fifth time... I know my history. I am addressing the issue of the op. You called them "so called" republicans correct? You seem to support the prov ira. Fair enough. You need to accept that those murderers originated from within your ranks....assuming you do in fact support the prov ira/sinn fein etc.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Sf justice folks.....and people vote for these fools? West Brits..... Also what is the 6 counties.... I can't find it on a map.!
    barney 20v wrote: »
    No one has ever oppressed me so......
    barney 20v wrote: »
    I could use many many examples of ira brutality but I won't. I live in a democratic republic where all terrorist activity is illegal ty!
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Hence the question mark at the end and the usage of the word "assume "
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Why do I have to??? They are part of a separate country and I do not have to share they're viewpoint. I understand it.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Different views that's all , this is a discussion not a debate BTW. And resorting to personal abuse does you no favours ...and for the record I mainly posted about my perception from an Irish catholic living in the republic. If your inferring I am trolling by all means contact a mod, I stand Over my posts. Once again to be Irish /catholic and non pro sinn fein seems to make one a troll in many posters eyes.
    barney 20v wrote: »
    I will review your posts and if I feel its warranted I most certainly will.also the report button varies in location depending on which device/app you use! A little heads up eh ?!
    barney 20v wrote: »
    Helpful I thought ...?


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  • #157
    barney 20v
    Registered Users Posts: 980 ✭✭✭barney 20v


    Posting frequently is not against charter.
    If you object to my posts please do what you feel necessary.
    I refuse to derail the thread by responding in kind on thread.


  • #158
    Duiske
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭Duiske


    ciarancapri wrote: »
    Ive been drinking in pubs all over south county dublin for years and I have never seen an phoblacht for sale.

    Apart from newsagents which stock it, it's mainly sold in pubs in area's where there's an active Sinn Fein Cumann. I've seen it being sold quite regularly in pub's around west Dublin, but that was a few years back. Probably not as noticeable now as it has changed since then from a weekly to a monthly edition.


  • #159
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    barney 20v wrote: »
    Omagh chuck.... Omagh.


    The PIRA didn't carry out omagh. Try again.
    stained class wrote:
    Looking back, the British people were amazingly tolerent..

    Not blaming one person for what another person from their (rather loose) 'ethnicity' does isn't 'amazing tolerance' by the way - its the sensible position. Though given your attitude to things, its not suprising you're taken aback at this.


  • #160
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    All the hard kids in my school used to write "IRA" on their schoolbags. Either that or "Iron Maiden".


  • #161
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Right so, apart from the usual bitching about shinners on these threads get here's the general gist.

    Don't confuse support for the IRA with sympathy, and don't confuse people voting for sinn fein with either. The provos got a great deal of support in the republic when the north erupted and there was still amount of surprising sympathy for the Provo's right through to the nineties, especially in certain areas. That's why Irish politicians kept throwing the phrase "fellow traveler" around throughout that period.

    Initial support for the provos was fairly high in the early seventies, mainly because people felt they were justified in what they did. blowing up lots of civilians did them no favours but in general there was still a surprising amount of sympathy for republicans across the republic. As the eighties progressed the climate had changed, the Irish political establishment had set themselves strongly against the IRA, the workers party were using their swing in the media to demonize republicans (although when you're blowing up civilians on a regular basis you're pretty much demonizing yourself) and section 31 came into effect, silencing Sinn Fein. None of that would bothered the IRA if their armed campaign was going anywhere but it was'nt


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  • #162
    Crooked Jack
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭Crooked Jack


    Cant speak for any other area's but I know from experience they (and by they I mean the IRA, formerly known as the PIRA, not counting any of the current imposters) had great support in the south Armagh, north Louth and Monaghan areas.


  • #163
    lcrcboy
    Registered Users Posts: 562 ✭✭✭lcrcboy


    Just saw this on the Limerick Leader website pretty scary that these guys are going around threatening your average Irish person.

    http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/local/republicans-issue-threat-to-british-army-targets-1-4652249


    And before anyone says it, I realize the guys in this news story are not the Provisional's and are dissidents


  • #164
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    lcrcboy wrote: »
    And before anyone says it, I realize the guys in this news story are not the Provisional's and are dissidents

    Maybe, but I believe the saying "They didn't lick it up off the floor" would be appropriate.

    until people stop glorifying the P/C/R/IRA then these twats believe they have a credible reason to extort money from drug dealers exist


  • #165
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    orestes wrote: »
    I'm from Tallaght, you occasionally see guys in the pub trying to look hard by saying they are in the 'ra, while little old men just sit sipping their pints and watching them quietly. Eventually one of the little old men goes over and says a quiet word in his ear and the hard man goes white and shuts the fukk up.

    What did he say? :eek: Don't end this cliff hanger of a story like that! :(


  • #166
    Fratton Fred
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,567 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    What did he say? :eek: Don't end this cliff hanger of a story like that! :(

    it was a good tip for the 2:30 at Leopardstown and to give the writer 50% of the winnings


  • #167
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    Fratton Fred wrote: »
    it was a good tip for the 2:30 at Leopardstown and to give the writer 50% of the winnings

    https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/avatars.boards.ie/avatar83143_9.gif


  • #168
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Would have been fairly popular in Ballinamore and north Leitrim, even to this day.


  • #169
    sfwcork
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    Jesus Ive opened a right can of worms starting this thread havnt I

    Better be careful or joe.ie will start an article on it


  • #170
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    sfwcork wrote: »
    Jesus Ive opened a right can of worms starting this thread havnt I

    Better be careful or joe.ie will start an article on it

    Meh....


  • #171
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »
    What did he say? :eek: Don't end this cliff hanger of a story like that! :(


    'I seen you in the jacks with the blonde fellah'


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  • #172
    BUBBLE WRAP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭BUBBLE WRAP


    Nodin wrote: »
    'I seen you in the jacks with the blonde fellah'

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


  • #173
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    kilograms wrote: »
    The 70s and 80s especially, they got huge support because the catholics of NI were been treated very badly.
    I heard after a month or so from the beginning they became a real pain in the hole for the people who had to live near them...ie once they got going they became assholes with guns..pushing their weight around


  • #174
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    They are still big in Japan


  • #175
    kfallon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    sfwcork wrote: »
    Jesus Ive opened a right can of worms starting this thread havnt I

    Don't blame yourself, I mean who could have seen it coming..... :rolleyes:

    :p


  • #176
    Diabhal Beag
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    Irish Guitarist wrote: »
    All the hard kids in my school used to write "IRA" on their schoolbags. Either that or "Iron Maiden".
    Did you know pro=British areas were bigger fans of Queen?







    (I'm so sorry)


  • #177
    sfwcork
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭sfwcork


    wrote:
    kfallon

    Don't blame yourself, I mean who could have seen it coming

    True that sh!t.Great that your so understanding


  • #178
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    mikemac1 wrote: »
    Have been in most /well plenty of pubs in Galway city and never saw it

    Would not claim to be in most pubs in Dublin but a fair few and never saw a seller

    You couldn't go out on a Friday night in a midlands town without seeing a seller

    I thought it was gone

    This be Athlone?, around Church Street? One or more sellers?


  • #179
    walrusgumble
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,062 ✭✭✭walrusgumble


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Would have been fairly popular in Ballinamore and north Leitrim, even to this day.

    Funny with Leitrim, Michael Collins always thought Leitrim was a dangerous Unionist hot bed


    On a second point, what backgrounds were the people who joined forces and burn down the Dublin British Embassy in the 1970's?


  • #180
    kilograms
    Registered Users Posts: 203 ✭✭kilograms


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    I heard after a month or so from the beginning they became a real pain in the hole for the people who had to live near them...ie once they got going they became assholes with guns..pushing their weight around

    I would well believe that, have you seen my other comment about my friend in Dundalk on page 2 of this thread


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  • #181
    GKidd
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 427 ✭✭GKidd


    http://http://www.singledudetravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/hipsters11.jpg

    The IRA are so passe. We loiked them before they were popular.


  • #182
    6541
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,953 ✭✭✭6541



    I have a bit on this, North Mayo was active as was Achill and Newport,mainly logistical support. An phoblacht was sold in Castlebar. A fair few ex POW settled in the Mayo region. Rural and away from it all.

    Personally I was at a few hunger striker memorials in West Belfast, always treated very well and thanked for support offered.

    In later years when my active ideals had waned a bit I was in Omagh at the blue grass festival in the folk museum, I was fairly hippy now that was a protestant festival. We were not made welcome at all.

    I do remember been on the lash in Omagh and how the soul had been ripped out of the town.


  • #183
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,306 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    sfwcork wrote: »
    I always wondered this.My neighbour who was orignally from the north told me before he was a member.I never knew to believe him or not.
    Sounds like the usual "I'm gangsta, so don't make any noise, or I'll blast ya" type of bullsh|t.

    If he says it again, ask him what county and unit. If he tells you both of these, he's lying.


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