**Spoilers inside!** Pokemon X and Pokemon Y - October 2013! :D

cloud493

Deleted User wrote: »

Picking up a second hand 3DS today. Couldn't wait even a few months to get it, have to be prepared! :P

That's awesome you should come to the Dublin pokemon league, make you plenty prepared

I have been meaning to come along, I'm in Gamers World often enough anyway! What Pokémon versions do yous play? I'm currently playing Emerald but I have my teams from Heartgold, Diamond & Firered all living in my Heartgold and will have my Emerald team imported to it too when I'm done with it. I have a team in White too but I haven't looked at the game since finishing the league (meaning to get back to it :P)

cloud493

We play all the games from red to black 2.

who is this

Wobbuffet wrote: »

Most likely there will be another transfer method to sllow you to bring Pokemon from Black/White/Black2/White2 into X and Y

I'd say this is almost guaranteed. The only time you couldn't do cross-gen was Gen 2-3, and that was probably more for technical reasons than anything else.

I just hope it's not gonna require two consoles again.
Unless it's full trading functionality like they had from Gen 1-2. That would be kind of cool to have again.

cloud493 wrote: »

They could a ruby/sapphire thing where you have to wait for the next set of games to get more mons, although that seems unlikely.

I think that's very likely, except I don't think they'll necessarily make you wait just for those games to get those Pokémon. I think it would be cool if instead of a full remake, you could get Hoenn as a DLC (maybe ~€20?). Then you'd have all the Pokémon in the same game, and get all the badges on one trainer card etc.

Wobbuffet

New Pokemon! Ninfia, a new evolution for Eevee



http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/New_Pok%C3%A9mon_Ninfia_revealed_in_CoroCoro

Angron

Sort of looks like an Eevee crossed with a Victini. I wonder what type it's supposed to be..

Banjo

looks like they're introducing "Gay" as the 18th type. It was only a matter of time. The strengths and weaknesses will be a political minefield though....

The colour scheme (same palette as Audino) and aspects of the look make me think it's going to be Normal. I suppose it's only fair that Eevee get to evolve for competitive strength without changing it's type. Bet if it does go Normal it'll have a move or ability that changes it's type in battle.

Angron

I'd always pictured Eevee's normal evolution being more like a larger, maybe fluffier looking, Eevee. I reckon you're right though, that looks more likely to be the normal type than any of the other types available.

raze_them_all_

Psychic maybe??

gnfnrhead

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Psychic maybe??

Espeon?

One of the last eeveeloutions I know :pac:

raze_them_all_

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Espeon?

One of the last eeveeloutions I know :pac:

durrrrrrr stupid moment of me

who is this

But the in-game (or anime, can't remember -- pretty official in any case) explanation of Eevee's ability to evolve into so many different types is to allow it to adapt to different circumstances. Evolving into the same type it already is, doesn't fit in with that.

Not saying it's absolutely not normal, just that I think it's more likely to be something else. The name isn't much help. All the others' Japanese names were really obvious about the type (and derived from English).

The only thing I think it sounds like is "nymph", which only fits in with Grass or Psychic or maybe Ghost at a push (unless I'm underestimating the creativity of the staff at the Pokémon Company).

Though the name could be a hint towards the rumour that female Eevee's evolve into this (what type I'm not sure) and male Eevee's into something else.

Urizen

It really looks more like Fennekin than Eevee, to my eyes :P

gnfnrhead

Any chance of electric, or is there already one?

CianRyan

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Any chance of electric, or is there already one?

Only an original.

gnfnrhead

I'm blaming the fact that I was trying to remember the newer ones so I forgot the originals :pac:

With that done, I'm thinking normal too from a purely visual point of view. Looking at the type list, poison is the only other maybe for me.

Wobbuffet

I think it's a Normal type, when I first saw it I thought of Delcatty and I always thought Delcatty looks like a Normal evolution of Eevee

Wobbuffet

English name of Ninfia is Sylveon. I still think that makes it sound like a Normal type

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pse_I1klRhA

ray2012

I just saw this thread now and I'm just wondering will Pokemon X + Y be JUST for the 3DS? or normal nintendos too ?

cloud493

It's gonna be just 3DS

Banjo

By the time it launches the 3DS will be 2 1/2 years in to it's run, it needs this title.

The DS got Gen 4, Gen 2 remakes and 2 Gen 5s, I'd say it's had more than it's fill

Angron

Sadly, it's just 3DS.

Arawn

Has to be the female only form.....they can't have the male like that!!

CianRyan

Arawn wrote: »

Has to be the female only form.....they can't have the male like that!!

Sexist!

What about Lickitung?

Arawn

CianRyan wrote: »

Sexist!

What about Lickitung?

Aye he's pink but also has a beer belly and no bows!

Atavan-Halen

CianRyan wrote: »

Sexist!

What about Lickitung?

And lopbunny too. Possibly the only male pokemon to undergo a sex change when it evolves :P

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess the new eevee is going to be a dragon type.

Angron

Evolution was not kind to Lopunny

Banjo

I wonder if somewhere in Unova there's a nightclub where female Mr Mimes and male Lopunnies get together.... man, that's one webcam feed I don't want to see...

CianRyan

Banjo wrote: »

I wonder if somewhere in Unova there's a nightclub where female Mr Mimes and male Lopunnies get together.... man, that's one webcam feed I don't want to see...

Angron

Well, that's an image I'll never get out of my head now.

TheChrisD

atavan-halen wrote: »

And lopbunny too. Possibly the only male pokemon to undergo a sex change when it evolves :P

Male Gardevoir

Icarus Wings

I reckon these will be the games that finally result in me caving in and buying a 3DS. Hopefully over the summer months, there'll be price reductions on the original with something like introductions of even more colours/editions etc.

If I can pick Street Fighter and the upcoming Castlevania game on the cheap as well, I will be very happy indeed!

I felt the same way, but then I got one and I love it. I'm currently playing Skylanders. It's like Pokémon but you get little toys too :P

SamIAmNot

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm currently playing Skylanders. It's like Pokémon but you get little toys too :P

I used to be big into Skylanders but its just got waaay too expensive....

looking_around

http://www.examiner.com/article/pokemon-x-and-pokemon-y-may-be-getting-two-new-types-according-to-report

New types. No, I don't think "light" type will be real. but sound type seems very plausible, especially with the sound moves in Gen5.

Sylveon, brand new eevee, brand new type? I like the idea XD

Wobbuffet

I'd take that story with a pinch of salt for now. That chart seems very suspicious to me. While I would understand retconning Pokemon like Ampharos and Chimecho to add a dual typing similar to Magnemite's Steel Type in Gen II, I can't see them completely changing the typing of Pokemon like Exploud. And oddly why is Volbeat getting a new type but not Illumise?

And if you trace the origins of the article, the original story is from 4chan so not the most trusted source

Angron

Until there's a solid announcement from Nintendo, I'm not buying into it.

looking_around

oh, yeah. I'm not saying I trust it. But it would be a nice change, I think anyway.

who is this

Light seems more plausible than sound, IMO.

Light fits in, in that it would contrast "dark". Sound would be a very odd fit. Those Pokémon specialise in.... "making noise"? Sounds crappy (as a whole type), and doesn't fit well with others.

Light on the other hand fits in just as well as dark does. Dark is mostly sort of "evil", since lots of the moves have some sort of underhandedness to them. There are lots of Pokémon that are the opposite and love to help others, Chansey family being the obvious example.

But I'm calling BS on that article, cause I don't think GameFreak would introduce a type whose name is the opposite of another, yet give it a description which isn't (since "Dark" refers to evil as evidenced by JP name, while that article makes "Light" refer to luminance etc.)

I wouldn't mind both being introduced, but if they introduce only one, it better not be sound. :P

They can merge rock and ground if they need space, I always get them mixed up

looking_around

lol, yeah I always get rock and ground confused too XD

Most people argue against the light, stating it's psychic, or pokemon that aren't 'evil' are normal.
Idk, stating evil/dark as a type always seemed odd to me, seeing as technically, it's more a state of being than a physical attribute. (ie any pokemon could be evil). But I suppose them changing that is unlikely.

Angron

Yeah, I remember I had that with rock and ground too. Cause the only rock types that weren't part ground in Gen 1 were the fossils, I was surprised that Sudowoodo wasn't immune to electric attacks in Gen 2 (I was like 9 or 10 at the time, so I didn't get it :P)

gnfnrhead

Denny M wrote: »

Yeah, I remember I had that with rock and ground too. Cause the only rock types that weren't part ground in Gen 1 were the fossils, I was surprised that Sudowoodo wasn't immune to electric attacks in Gen 2 (I was like 9 or 10 at the time, so I didn't get it :P)

I remember getting caught with Sudowoodo before. My Graveler was gone and a Megneton was destroying me. Sent out Sudowoodo assuming he was immune and thinking I'll only have to worry about Sonicboom. The language was biblical when one Thunderbolt took him out. :mad: Have never used Sudowoodo since. I hold grudges like that :pac:

who is this

I never remember if a Pokémon is Rock or Ground, I won't even think I know I'll just think "Yeah, some brown coloured type, whatever. Give it a go. Be grand"

I'd like a new type or two, I'd just be really disappointed if there's only one and that one happens to be sound. If sound is one of several new types, I don't really care.

Hard to tell whether they'd do it though. The long history of the current 17 could rationalise either: leave them alone due to how well-established current list is, or introduce new types to refresh the games.

I'd prefer the latter.

Camster 123

I'm guessing, since everything about Pokemon X & Y is new, that they are going to introduce Sylveon as a new type. I think it's plausible as there were many new types introduced in previous gens.

What about, for example, Light or Fairy Type? We have dark type already, and if there WAS a light type, this could make many new types of grass,bug and flying type pokemon, with Light moves.

Also I know Fairy sounds ridiculous, but already Clefairy and Snubbul are deemed as "Fairy" Type. Plus, Sylveon's alter names in Japanese and French both include "Nymph", like a little woodland fairy.

I guess people are still considering it could be Flying, or Ground type, but realistically, it's form doesnt suggest any of these. I know it's a bit presumptuous of me to dismiss this, but i truly don't think it's ground. Perhaps with it's ribbons and bows, I don't know, it could fly? But i don't think so.

All in all, I think the Pokemon team are starting something new, a shock factor, and with a new eevelotion, an entirely new pokemon type is possible.

On another note, any ideas what types the new Legendaries are? :P

Angron

Camster 123 wrote: »

I'm guessing, since everything about Pokemon X & Y is new, that they are going to introduce Sylveon as a new type.I think it's plausible as there were many new types introduced in previous gens.

Not really, there were 2 new types brought in since gen 1, both were in Gen 2 and were brought in to help counter the very powerful psychic type, as only psychic resisted psychic in 1. (Unless you count the Shadow pokemon in the gamecube games).

I'm not saying it's impossible to think that they'd bring in a new type, and maybe they have few ideas of what to do with the game without bringing in a new type, but until I get an official announcement I'm a bit sceptical.

For the legendary types, I get the feeling that Yveltal might be Dark/Flying, it has a sort of a dark, ominous appearance anyway. Xerneas has me thinking Grass, and if there is a new light type it would probably have it too, being the legendary.

Camster 123

That's true, I forgot they only added them in Gold and Silver.
I just feel that there is going to be some sort of major change, a whole new Gen different from ALL the rest must bring something like this.
I know you're saying that you don't doubt there will be a new type, taking it from your angle that types haven't been added in a while - it's a long time coming then right?

Yeah it seems dark and flying seems right, people are saying fire but that's just because it's red, and it looks more like an energy rather than fire. I'd say Xerneas grass/ psychic. (I don't think they'd make only one mascot a new type, people would get pissed)

Maybe they will keep them both single types?? Yvetal perhaps dark, Xerneas psychic?

Mr.Saturn

Well, we've got our new 'mon, and it's slap-bang outta leftfield.





Mewonepointfive?

CianRyan

I don't like these baby Pokémon when in the last game their evolved forms were popping out of the egg at lv1.
WHY NO EVOLVE?!

Angron

I don't like that Mewtwo. Though it does kinda remind me of Frieza from Dragonball Z now.

gnfnrhead

Why mess with Mewtwo?

I hate pre-evolutions altogether. They dont make sense in regards the story (unless it changed in the later Gens) of Pokemon being discovered. Pikachu for example, how the hell was it never noticed that he was an evolved form?

Maybe I'm just getting old :pac: