Manchester United vs Liverpool; SUN 13th Jan @ 13.30pm ** MOD NOTE POST #1 **

yesno1234

yesno1234 wrote: »

What's the max bet do you know?

Probably a tenner!

ITT-Pat

Chucky the tree wrote: »

When was the last time we scored against United with a long ball into the box?

Last February at Old Trafford.

Any chance Fergie might have a brainfart and play Vidic?

slingerz

Sturridge could cause United more problems than people realise. Should allow Suarez to play between the lines and cause United endless problems from there

ThunbergsAreGo

Deleted User wrote: »

Note the accuracy stat. Long passes do not = hoofball.

Newcastle, statistically the most hoofed ball team in the league, Feeding Ba and Cisse directly no doubt.

Exactly the point i was making

PhlegmyMoses

rarnes1 wrote: »

Any chance Fergie might have a brainfart and play Vidic?

I'd say there's every chance. I hope he doesn't but Fergie just said that he will rotate CBs for the rest of the season. Hard to know what the rotation will be.

wandatowell

2-1 to Utd I think

PhlegmyMoses

slingerz wrote: »

Sturridge could cause United more problems than people realise. Should allow Suarez to play between the lines and cause United endless problems from there

The last time Sturridge played United in a meaningful match he took shots from 30-40 yards into the stands and missed an open goal. Sure, he may do well but he hasn't shown much against us in the past.

PhlegmyMoses

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

I'd say there's every chance. I hope he doesn't but Fergie just said that he will rotate CBs for the rest of the season. Hard to know what the rotation will be.

He looks poor since he came back.

He wouldn't be the best choice against Suarez but I hope he plays

Blatter

rarnes1 wrote: »

He looks poor since he came back.

He wouldn't be the best choice against Suarez but I hope he plays

Likewise as a United fan I'd hope to see Lucas in the team.

90% sure Vidic won't start btw.

yesno1234

slingerz wrote: »

Sturridge could cause United more problems than people realise. Should allow Suarez to play between the lines and cause United endless problems from there

No ones doubting that but it's his fitness which is the concern, he's played very little football this season. Were he fully fit I'd expect him to start.

Blatter

Blatter wrote: »

Likewise as a United fan I'd hope to see Lucas in the team.

90% sure Vidic won't start btw.

I hope Lucas is in the team too and has plenty of help in a packed midfield.

kingshankly

yesno1234 wrote: »

What's the max bet do you know?

Not sure probably a deuce but there's plenty of paddy powers

5starpool

kingshankly wrote: »

It's in the shops January sale special

Might as well be in Outer Mongolia given the likelyhood of me going to an actual bookies to put on a bet. :pac:

kingshankly

yesno1234 wrote: »

What's the max bet do you know?

If ya got 2k on them the lay 2300 on betfair @1.95 you make 300 either way easy money

slingerz

Liverpool will play Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Wisdon Lucas, Allen and Gerrard in midfield, front three of Sterling, Sturridge, Suarez

Blatter

rarnes1 wrote: »

I hope Lucas is in the team too and has plenty of help in a packed midfield.

He's looked a good bit off the pace since returning though, not sure he's up to starting on Sunday. I'd say there's a good chance Rodgers will go with Allen, Gerrard and Henderson.

yabadabado

rarnes1 wrote: »

He looks poor since he came back.

He wouldn't be the best choice against Suarez but I hope he plays

He has started 2 games and got 20 odd minutes against Sunderland since he came back way too soon to judge him.This game has probably came a few gamess too soon for him ,delighted SAF is easing him in slowly and would hope by the end of the month he is back to his best.

cournioni

When Liverpool are doing poorly they always beat us, 2-3 to Liverpool.

Blatter

kingshankly wrote: »

If ya got 2k on them the lay 2300 on betfair @1.95 you make 300 either way easy money

Yep that's why there's always a max bet on these types of specials. Any half decent bettor would rape the bookies otherwise.

yesno1234

slingerz wrote: »

Liverpool will play Reina, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Wisdon Lucas, Allen and Gerrard in midfield, front three of Sterling, Sturridge, Suarez

Link?

Highly unlikely Sturridge will start.

Very good chance Henderson will start.

yesno1234

Blatter wrote: »

Yep that's why there's always a max bet on these types of specials. Any half decent bettor would rape the bookies otherwise.

True but at the current price there's value in United. At 6/4 that's value which just can't be left alone. If there was a decent max bet on it it'd be worth a few trips around.

kingshankly

yesno1234 wrote: »

True but at the current price there's value in United. At 6/4 that's value which just can't be left alone. If there was a decent max bet on it it'd be worth a few trips around.

It will be at least 200 you would have no trouble you and a couple of mates getting plenty of dough on round dublin .

yesno1234

kingshankly wrote: »

It will be at least 200 you would have no trouble you and a couple of mates getting plenty of dough on round dublin .

200 really? Was expecting 20 myself. Not in Dublin, only 2 in PP in my town but if it was 200 that'd be unreal. Dundalk on until after 9 so I presume they'll be open until 7 at least?

niallo27

Supposed to be a chance of snow at the weekend, hopefully it won't **** up any flights.

Hidalgo

For Liverpool to cause damage to Utd's defence I think their best hope is play it in behind Evra.
I'd imagine Young & Evra will try and exploit Wisdom, that's what I'd do anyhow. If Liverpool can break up the play when Evra has motored forward, quick ball into where he would be defensively could see trouble for Utd.

3-1 Utd, 2 for RVP and a defender to get the other
Suarez to score for Lverpool

PhlegmyMoses

niallo27 wrote: »

Supposed to be a chance of snow at the weekend, hopefully it won't **** up any flights.

More importantly, hope it doesn't affect the match!

citytillidie

homerjay2005 wrote: »

where? not one goal came from decent slick passing. everything was basic basic defending which United failed to do.

the only decent goal from a United point of view, was Gerrads goal in September, but even at that Ferdinand should have cleared the initial ball into the box.

And here it is, Liverpool never play teams off the pitch, or if they win a game against another big team it is because that team never turned up

RasTa

kingshankly wrote: »

It will be at least 200 you would have no trouble you and a couple of mates getting plenty of dough on round dublin .

It will be €12.50 knowing Paddy Power

Dcully

citytillidie wrote: »

And here it is, Liverpool never play teams off the pitch, or if they win a game against another big team it is because that team never turned up

Liverpool played Man City off the park earlier in the season and got feck all for their efforts thanks to Skrtel going asleep for 2 seconds.

In my book you can play a team off the park without scoring,to me playing a team off the park is dominating possession and out passing the opposition.

Beating a team is a different story altogether

Hulk Hands

Completely raging I missed the special in PP earlier. I'll be keeping a close eye tomorrow to see if it crops up again.

In real odds, United are ridiculous value at Evens. They have won the last 4 meetings between the sides at Old Trafford, and go into the game in decent form. It's quite baffling how short Liverpool are at times such as the 4/5 at home to Arsenal earlier in the season.

In comparison to this game, United were 4/6 to beat Arsenal in OT earlier in the season. They were 8/11 to beat Spurs. Liverpool are worse than those sides, so how can United be a bigger price to win? Against a team on around Liverpool's level this year, Stoke, United were close to 1/3. And you can be sure they will be a lot shorter than Evs to beat Everton next month. Again, makes no sense.

You can talk about form going out the window for these ties, but 4 wins in a row doesn't reflect that. Of course this game could easily go the other way but the United chances to win are certainly better than the 50% bookies are saying. The 4/6 the bookies opened them up at looks like the right price

Paully D

Hulk Hands wrote: »

Completely raging I missed the special in PP earlier. I'll be keeping a close eye tomorrow to see if it crops up again.

In real odds, United are ridiculous value at Evens. They have won the last 4 meetings between the sides at Old Trafford, and go into the game in decent form. It's quite baffling how short Liverpool are at times such as the 4/5 at home to Arsenal earlier in the season.

In comparison to this game, United were 4/6 to beat Arsenal in OT earlier in the season. They were 8/11 to beat Spurs. Liverpool are worse than those sides, so how can United be a bigger price to win? Against a team on around Liverpool's level this year, Stoke, United were close to 1/3. And you can be sure they will be a lot shorter than Evs to beat Everton next month. Again, makes no sense.

You can talk about form going out the window for these ties, but 4 wins in a row doesn't reflect that. Of course this game could easily go the other way but the United chances to win are certainly better than the 50% bookies are saying. The 4/6 the bookies opened them up at looks like the right price

Liverpool are generally always a shorter price than they should be because of the amount of money that comes in for them from the Asian market.

Hulk Hands

Paully D wrote: »

Liverpool are generally always a shorter price than they should be because of the amount of money that comes in for them from the Asian market.

True. I was advised by a couple of sharps to lay them in every game they play over a season as they are always a couple of prices shorter than they should be. I'm doing it this season and am up a very decent amount. They aren't this bad usually obviously but apparently that system has returned a nice profit for the last 4 seasons running

syngindub

Hulk Hands wrote: »

True. I was advised by a couple of sharps to lay them in every game they play over a season as they are always a couple of prices shorter than they should be. I'm doing it this season and am up a very decent amount. They aren't this bad usually obviously but apparently that system has returned a nice profit for the last 4 seasons running

now theres a man talking sense

Aidric

Quandary wrote: »

Based on form logic would suggest a Utd win of some sort but logic goes out the window in these fixtures

WORD. I'll take any class of a win for Utd.

redzerdrog

hope its 1-0 to liverpool from a reina long punt up the field that suarez punches into the net

perfect!

Paul Tergat

Hope we destroy em. Cmon United

BASHIR

Ha ha good craic this thread. Its like a preview of my sitting room on matchday, all the bickering and jibes.
Cmon ManU, 3-1 I reckon.

K-9

BASHIR wrote: »

Ha ha good craic this thread. Its like a preview of my sitting room on matchday, all the bickering and jibes.
Cmon ManU, 3-1 I reckon.

Watch, you'll get pulled up on using that term.

1-1, Gerrard and RVP.

Nalz

K-9 wrote: »

Watch, you'll get pulled up on using that term.

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

djfitzerjnr

Only 3 current Liverpool players have scored against United in the league. I can only think of 2; Suarez & Gerrard. Agger in the FA Cup. Who's the 3rd?

Gbear

djfitzerjnr wrote: »

Only 3 current Liverpool players have scored against United in the league. I can only think of 2; Suarez & Gerrard. Agger in the FA Cup. Who's the 3rd?

Could be someone like Downing for another club.

Nalz

Gbear wrote: »

Could be someone like Downing for another club.

Daniel Sturridge maybe? Can't remember if he did or not

def did in the league cup

J. Marston

Trilla wrote: »

Daniel Sturridge maybe? Can't remember if he did or not

Yeah, in the Carling Cup a month or two ago.

Edit: Oh, in the league? Not sure then.

IncognitoMan

Glen Johnson? For Portsmouth maybe?

BASHIR

K-9 wrote: »

Watch, you'll get pulled up on using that term.

1-1, Gerrard and RVP.

Ya sound. Just realised it after.

Looking forward to the game hopefully its not ruined by dodgey decisions.

Aidric

Nice piece by Amy Lawrence re RVP transfer. Tough reading for Arsenal fans.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/11/phone-call-manchester-united-van-persie?CMP=twt_gu

mada999

can see utd winning by 1 goal from a dodgy decision imo like the last game....

but in a perfect world it would like to sturridge on at the start and to bag a couple of goals would be nice

K-9

BASHIR wrote: »

Ya sound. Just realised it after.

Ah just slagging, Man U is just an abbreviated term, bit like many say pool.

Looking forward to the game hopefully its not ruined by dodgey decisions.

Chances are we'll have an endless debate over how this or that decision totally affected the game, its just the way of these things.

Timmyctc

mada999 wrote: »

can see utd winning by 1 goal from a dodgy decision imo like the last game....

but in a perfect world it would like to sturridge on at the start and to bag a couple of goals would be nice

What was the dodgy decision in the last game?