Manchester United vs Liverpool; SUN 13th Jan @ 13.30pm ** MOD NOTE POST #1 **

El Inho

Just don't know how to call this...heart says pool, and part of my head...but future martin is screaming at me to not get my hopes up...

0-0 draw in favour of LFC

darced

darced wrote: »

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doesnt matter how well he plays in fairness. it's about how often he puts the ball in the net

The Internet

3 - 1 to Liverpool

Humungous D to get a hat trick

skinny90

3-2 united
United cruising the majority of the game with liverpool to get a late 2nd goal making it a nervy finish

Nervous Nigel

United to click and win 4-0.

Yes it's a game where form and quality can go out the window, but sometimes games do pan out just as they would if played on paper.

United have a seven point lead, the stronger team, the stronger squad, the best player in the league and a place at Europe's top table in a month's time. Liverpool on the other hand are seemingly lurching from one disaster to the next and are severely lacking in quality.

Can Liverpool win? Of course they can. Sure look at Blackburn last season. Will Liverpool win? No. In my view, they'll be hammered.

Let's hope for a good game with no ridiculous Suarez type controversies.

Kerrigooney

Nervous Nigel wrote: »

United to click and win 4-0.

Yes it's a game where form and quality can go out the window, but sometimes games do pan out just as they would if played on paper.

United have a seven point lead, the stronger team, the stronger squad, the best player in the league and a place at Europe's top table in a month's time. Liverpool on the other hand are seemingly lurching from one disaster to the next and are severely lacking in quality.

Can Liverpool win? Of course they can. Sure look at Blackburn last season. Will Liverpool win? No. In my view, they'll be hammered.

Let's hope for a good game with no ridiculous Suarez type controversies.

They're only ridiculous Suarez controversies because the rags turn everything he does into a controversy. Sells papers.

Nervous Nigel

Kerrigooney wrote: »

They're only ridiculous Suarez controversies because the rags turn everything he does into a controversy. Sells papers.

I'd just like to see headlines like "King of the World" with a picture of RVP rather than "Football's Shame" and a picture of Luis Suarez.

There's no doubt that the tabloids fan the flames, but there's also no doubt that Suarez brings it on himself.

I'll be interested to see how Sterling gets on if selected/fit.

Kerrigooney

Nervous Nigel wrote: »

I'd just like to see headlines like "King of the World" with a picture of RVP rather than "Football's Shame" and a picture of Luis Suarez.

There's no doubt that the tabloids fan the flames, but there's also no doubt that Suarez brings it on himself.

I'll be interested to see how Sterling gets on if selected/fit.

I wonder if Utd win by a single goal,scored from the penalty spot after a blatant Ashley Young dive would the headline be "Footballs Shame"?

I have my doubts.

If it happens the other end it will.

It's just boring and obvious at this stage.

Sterling hasn't been great lately but he can definitely cause Evra or De Silva problems.

ohyesthefinest

Very interesting stat, IMO.
michael shields ‏@michaelshields0
Liverpool + united have played same amount of games this season but united have played 14 more minutes , says it all about taggart

Nervous Nigel

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Very interesting stat, IMO.
michael shields ‏@michaelshields0
Liverpool + united have played same amount of games this season but united have played 14 more minutes , says it all about taggart

Given that United score more goals (thus generating more added time) and play against teams that adopt delaying tactics 'cause they're scared, that's not surprising.

Lovely Bloke

Michael Shields?

How does he have access to twitter in jail?

:pac:

passremarkable

Can't wait for this one. I have a good feeling about it. can't see united defence handling Luis. If we keep solid at the back we can do it. Midfield holding roll will be crucial. 2-1 pool.

YNWA

yabadabado

ohyesthefinest wrote: »

Very interesting stat, IMO.
michael shields ‏@michaelshields0
Liverpool + united have played same amount of games this season but united have played 14 more minutes , says it all about taggart

Thats says absolutely nothing. 14 minutes over 21 games. Get a ****ing grip.some awful sad ***** out there.

Lovely Bloke

yabadabado wrote: »

Thats says absolutely nothing. 14 minutes over 21 games. Get a ****ing grip.some awful sad ***** out there.

It's a WUM twitter account.

Don't get so offended by serious business on the internet pal.

niallo27

Liverpool have 15 goals in their last 6 league games so it does make for a high scoring game.

machiavellianme

Nervous Nigel wrote: »

Given that United score more goals (thus generating more added time) and play against teams that adopt delaying tactics 'cause they're scared, that's not surprising.

Or, coversely and possibly more accurate...
When Utd need a goal late on, the refs often seem to forget to look at their watch!

counterlock

machiavellianme wrote: »

Or, coversely and possibly more accurate...
When Utd need a goal late on, the refs often seem to forget to look at their watch!

You're right, David Gill makes a call from his office phone into the referee's earpiece. If you tilt your tinfoil hat just right, you might be able to pick up some of the call.

LuckyLloyd

Eli Manning wrote: »

Nah, not when mods of the Politics fourm are going for a cheap dig on the interwebz. Woof!

Can you, or any Man U fan, explain to me why Man U is a slur? I'm genuinely interested in why it is considered an offensive way to name the club?

yabadabado

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Can you, or any Man U fan, explain to me why Man U is a slur? I'm genuinely interested in why it is considered an offensive way to name the club?

Google it.

Kess73

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Can you, or any Man U fan, explain to me why Man U is a slur? I'm genuinely interested in why it is considered an offensive way to name the club?

The same claims were made last season, and were put to bed when I put up exactly where the Man U term came from, along with pictures of Man U badges and items from the era that had that exact term on them.

Will have a look to see if I can find the posts, but the Man U term actually originated in Manchester and was used by the club and supporters at one point.


Man Ure is the insulting term that sprang from it, and that was used by rival supporters as a twist on the Man U branding.

LuckyLloyd

yabadabado wrote: »

Google it.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Man+U

LuckyLloyd

Kess73 wrote: »

The same claims were made last season, and were put to bed when I put up exactly where the Man U term came from, along with pictures of Man U badges and items from the era that had that exact term on them.

Will have a look to see if I can find the posts, but the Man U term actually originated in Manchester and was used by the club and supporters at one point.


Man Ure is the insulting term that sprang from it, and that was used by rival supporters as a twist on the Man U branding.

And Man Ure is childish and silly stuff, but Man U just seems to be a way to refer to the club as per the google search I just did.

yabadabado

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Man+U

Google the question you asked

Augmerson

2-1 to Liverpool. Both from Suarez. He is on fine form this season and will cause United a lot of problems. Will be denied a stonewall penalty too.

LuckyLloyd

yabadabado wrote: »

Google the question you asked

No, you tell me. Explain to me what's wrong with it?

yabadabado

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

No, you tell me. Explain to me what's wrong with it?

I have no interest getting into this, it crops up regularly enough , if you really want to know the answer its very easy to find all the information you need. You can then make up your own mind if its offensive or not.

niallo27

yabadabado wrote: »

I have no interest getting into this, it crops up regularly enough , if you really want to know the answer its very easy to find all the information you need. You can then make up your own mind if its offensive or not.

Why not tell us, what the problem in telling us, I'm interested to know what's wrong with it too.

Lovely Bloke

It's not offensive, any web pages telling you it is are lying, or re-telling a myth that was made up by someone looking to get offended.

Lloyd already knows this, so he's best ignored here, he's pretending to be ignorant.

niallo27

Ok I googled it and I was redirected back to this thread asking why is Man U a slur.

alchemist33

Offence is a very personal thing. I've been a United fan for 30 years and I'm not remotely offended by Man U. Even if somebody thinks they're offending me with it, they're not.

LuckyLloyd

yabadabado wrote: »

I have no interest getting into this, it crops up regularly enough , if you really want to know the answer its very easy to find all the information you need. You can then make up your own mind if its offensive or not.

Well if no-one can explain in simple terms why it's offensive I am forced to conclude that it isn't offensive. So Man U it is then.

Leiva

seriously I'm not taking the piss or on a wind up .... Why is Man U offensive?

Mars Bar

The only reason Man U annoys me is coz I read it in a Bill O' Herlihy voice.

The_Kew_Tour

Man U is not offensive.

Next.................

Kess73

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

And Man Ure is childish and silly stuff, but Man U just seems to be a way to refer to the club as per the google search I just did.

No Manure is not childish or silly, but rather horribly offensive when one considers the vile manner in which that term was used.


Manure was used for decades as part of a disgusting song by non United supporters much in a similar manner to how the term Victims was used in relation to Hillsborough.

I don't think there is any need for me to quote the Manure song as I am sure the United supporters on here know it's history and what man's name got used in that line.

Lovely Bloke

Man U fans should stop engaging Lloyd, he's only here to play.

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Those threads are easy. Play the waiting game and let the idiocy develop then pounce. Just make sure you're going hard in the paint, not a thread for suffering fools.

Then get out before the arguments become entirely circular and let the fish rumble on for another 36 hours (or until lock) pointlessly. Easy game.

efb

Can we use Man Yoo?

Fuhrer

niallo27 wrote: »

Ok I googled it and I was redirected back to this thread asking why is Man U a slur.

Its a reference to a song about Munich that some Liverpool fans like to sing

Lovely Bloke

efb wrote: »

Can we use Man Yoo?

You can if you want to come across as an eight year old girl in the playground.

Knock yourself out.

Leiva

Fuhrer wrote: »

Its a reference to a song about Munich that some Liverpool fans like to sing

first I heard of it

Lovely Bloke

Fuhrer wrote: »

Its a reference to a song about Munich that some Liverpool fans like to sing

It really isn't. That is made up so people could get offended at something.

Fuhrer

Leiva wrote: »

first I heard of it

Yeah, ok.

Lovely Bloke

Fuhrer wrote: »

Yeah, ok.

Stop being offended on behalf of other people who made something up to be offended about.

Leiva

Fuhrer wrote: »

Yeah, ok.

Are you getting it mixed up with something else? Maybe what Kess mentioned above ^^ ?

Frisbee

There is fúcking nothing offensive about the term 'Man U', it's an abbreviation ffs. Stop acting like precious little princesses.

Next person to continue the conversation on it is banned.

Slattsy

Our year.

LuckyLloyd

Kess73 wrote: »

No Manure is not childish or silly, but rather horribly offensive when one considers the vile manner in which that term was used.


Manure was used for decades as part of a disgusting song by non United supporters much in a similar manner to how the term Victims was used in relation to Hillsborough.

I don't think there is any need for me to quote the Manure song as I am sure the United supporters on here know it's history and what man's name got used in that line.

No, that's fair enough. I should have decried it in much stronger terms. I would never have used the term / sung the song myself obv.

counterlock

Luis is on fire, Stevie is going to dominate midfield. I expect Webb to send off Agger after a dive from Young. Fergie is cracking up. Thanks but no yanks Thanks for those yanks. Kenny is god. Suarez was/is innocent. Its all a conspiracy. I'm changing my username to Stewart Downing etc etc

LuckyLloyd

It's hard to see a way in which Liverpool can win the game given the respective form of the two clubs this season. Utd will find a way, and that way may be despite them losing the midfield battle or Suarez being effective or Rooney not being on the pitch, etc. Seems to me Utd have a way of confounding expectations in ties like this and digging out the win.

8 of the last 11 in Old Trafford tells its own story.

Kess73

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

It's hard to see a way in which Liverpool can win the game given the respective form of the two clubs this season. Utd will find a way, and that way may be despite them losing the midfield battle or Suarez being effective or Rooney not being on the pitch, etc. Seems to me Utd have a way of confounding expectations in ties like this and digging out the win.

8 of the last 11 in Old Trafford tells its own story.

True. Anyone regarding United as anything other than almost odds on to win is letting bias overwhelm logic.


I want Liverpool to win. I hope Liverpool will win. I will spend every minute in the ground tomorrow roaring my head off, but I have no doubts that it is a stronger team facing mine, and that the stronger team has a fantastic mentality when it comes to finding a way to get results.