Fallout 4

Kirby

Kirby wrote: »

It does level with you. But it has ranges. For example, a starter area might have enemies with a range of level 5 -10. So if you rock up there at level 6, they will be level 6 plus or minus a level or two. If you are level 8, they will be level 8 plus or minus a level. But they cap at 10 so if you are 15, they stay at 10.

So there will be areas where you are overleveled for and can blast through easily and there will also be areas with high level ranges like 30-40 that will own you a few hours into the game if you go exploring. But if you follow the organic path laid out for you, the enemies will likely always be around your level.

That sucks

strelok

Kirby wrote: »

It does level with you. But it has ranges. For example, a starter area might have enemies with a range of level 5 -10. So if you rock up there at level 6, they will be level 6 plus or minus a level or two. If you are level 8, they will be level 8 plus or minus a level. But they cap at 10 so if you are 15, they stay at 10.

So there will be areas where you are overleveled for and can blast through easily and there will also be areas with high level ranges like 30-40 that will own you a few hours into the game if you go exploring. But if you follow the organic path laid out for you, the enemies will likely always be around your level.

new vegas had the same system after people complained about the world levelling in 3. it didn't work very well. you weren't just shepherded down the path the developers wanted you to take you were very very harshly punished for straying off it, it was immersion breaking. you either follow the road down to primm at the start or you try to tackle the hilariously powerful cazadors and deathclaws, you didn't really have another option

compare that to fallout 3 where you can just walk up to rivet city by accident.

Kirby

strelok wrote: »

new vegas had the same system after people complained about the world levelling in 3. it didn't work very well. you weren't just shepherded down the path the developers wanted you to take you were very very harshly punished for straying off it, it was immersion breaking. you either follow the road down to primm at the start or you try to tackle the hilariously powerful cazadors and deathclaws, you didn't really have another option

compare that to fallout 3 where you can just walk up to rivet city by accident.

I found that pretty jarring too in New Vegas. But the thing to remember is New Vegas was made by Obsidian. This is Bethesda. It will be the same style as fallout3. They like their world leveling. Theyve had it in Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3. It will be here. Just tweaked a little like what I described.

strelok

strelok wrote: »

new vegas had the same system after people complained about the world levelling in 3. it didn't work very well. you weren't just shepherded down the path the developers wanted you to take you were very very harshly punished for straying off it, it was immersion breaking. you either follow the road down to primm at the start or you try to tackle the hilariously powerful cazadors and deathclaws, you didn't really have another option

compare that to fallout 3 where you can just walk up to rivet city by accident.

I suppose this is the fundamental difference, I prefer linear games to a degree. Later on you can go where you want once you get your bearings of the whole game. I prefer being gradually introduced to various areas rather than being paralyzed by overwhelming choice at the start.

Kiith

strelok wrote: »

new vegas had the same system after people complained about the world levelling in 3. it didn't work very well. you weren't just shepherded down the path the developers wanted you to take you were very very harshly punished for straying off it, it was immersion breaking. you either follow the road down to primm at the start or you try to tackle the hilariously powerful cazadors and deathclaws, you didn't really have another option

compare that to fallout 3 where you can just walk up to rivet city by accident.

Surely that's how it should be. A fresh faced vault dweller shouldn't be able to tackle a Deathclaw, and running away would be the only viable option. I would have thought that's more immersive then taking on a pack of Deathclaws with a 9mm pistol and bb gun.

There's not many ways of making a levelling system perfect, and people will complain either way, but this is as good as it gets in Bethesda games as far as i know.

Plus, it'll be modded all sorts of ways within a few weeks (on the pc at least).

xtal191

Pc screenshots

http://imgur.com/a/juVjm?desktop=1

madcabbage

Looks pretty slick on the PC, think the game still looks great when it has a slight cartoony edge to it.

Sofiztikated

Right lads, I'm shutting myself off this thread until at least this time 2 weeks.

I wish you well wandering.

ShadowHearth

I still wonder where I will get this from.

Amazon out of the question. I am not fancying waiting 1 week for delivery.
Gamestop 75eu, but that is the only shop I can get in my local town.
I wonder if Argos will do it for 60eu again? Argos is pretty much spot on lately with new releases and 60eu price tag.

MiskyBoyy

ShadowHearth wrote:

Amazon out of the question. I am not fancying waiting 1 week for delivery. Gamestop 75eu, but that is the only shop I can get in my local town. I wonder if Argos will do it for 60eu again? Argos is pretty much spot on lately with new releases and 60eu price tag.

Gameseek.co.uk e55

Zero-Cool

Nice interview with Courtenay Taylor who voices the female player character.

http://ie.ign.com/articles/2015/11/03/voice-actress-courtenay-taylor-fallout-4-is-like-a-pixar-movie

DukeAwesome

Dammit, was told by GameSeek as it's my first order my delivery address must be identical to my billing address. Sure hope an post don't keep it too long

ironictoaster

DukeAwesome wrote: »

Dammit, was told by GameSeek as it's my first order my delivery address must be identical to my billing address. Sure hope an post don't keep it too long

I ordered from the game collection a while ago. I got it for €52 on the ps4 + parcel motel shipping. You might be able to get it a day early. I saw a few people here got metal gear early from these lads so I'm hoping for something similar.

MiskyBoyy

ironictoaster wrote:

I ordered from the game collection a while ago. I got it for €52 on the ps4 + parcel motel shipping. You might be able to get it a day early. I saw a few people here got metal gear early from these lads so I'm hoping for something similar.

Games collection is out of stock for a while now.

DukeAwesome

ironictoaster wrote: »

I ordered from the game collection a while ago. I got it for €52 on the ps4 + parcel motel shipping. You might be able to get it a day early. I saw a few people here got metal gear early from these lads so I'm hoping for something similar.

Was it your first time ordering off them, just out of curiosity?

EDIT: misread game collection for GameSeek my bad x)

ShadowHearth

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Gameseek.co.uk e55

But its with parcel motel? Nearest one is in Cork, so I might as well get it in Argos if its 60 there.

MilesMorales1

I'll be punting for argos and its magical 58.99/60 euro price tag, otherwise smiths for 65 is the next best thing.

Pip boy edition is just too rich for my blood, specially for something I'd never ever use.

DukeAwesome

Where is everyone getting the Argos price? Can't find fallout on their website.

MilesMorales1

DukeAwesome wrote: »

Where is everyone getting the Argos price? Can't find fallout on their website.

Argos have sold pretty much all new PS4/Xbox one releases for 60 or lower for ages now.

DukeAwesome

DukeAwesome wrote: »

Where is everyone getting the Argos price? Can't find fallout on their website.

They only seem to appear on the website a day or two before release you can pre-book for collection once it appears.

DukeAwesome

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Argos have sold pretty much all new PS4/Xbox one releases for 60 or lower for ages now.

Oh really? Might just cancel my order from gameseek so and head to an Argos on Tuesday.

Shougeki

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Here's also a youtube playlist of all confirmed songs so far "gleamed" from leaked videos: https://radd.it/r/fo4/comments/3r7y7o/vids

Liking the sound

I was bored in a meeting today, so decided to make a playlist of the mod I used previously Civil Defense Radio in youtube :P

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbzlJlpiP-9hBBAhcku6ZwFSYgKJZsIPO

Also, in regards to people spending hours on their looks: How long does it really take to make you look like a Tunnel Snake? :P

Zero-Cool

Here is a song that will feature in-game so don't listen if you would see it as a spoiler.

Wouldn't be my type of music but it's a very cool song.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV8IQznPRuY

Zero-Cool

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Right lads, I'm shutting myself off this thread until at least this time 2 weeks.

I wish you well wandering.

Zero-Cool

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Made my day Sheehy

Zero-Cool

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Made my day Sheehy

Compliments of NeoGaf

J Mysterio

Someone had an awesome Fallout 4 halloween costume in the Cork City forum.

Zero-Cool

J Mysterio wrote: »

Someone had an awesome Fallout 4 halloween costume in the Cork City forum.

Whoa that's class! There was me looking for a blue boiler suit to stick some Yellow tape on

strelok

Kiith wrote: »

Surely that's how it should be. A fresh faced vault dweller shouldn't be able to tackle a Deathclaw, and running away would be the only viable option. I would have thought that's more immersive then taking on a pack of Deathclaws with a 9mm pistol and bb gun.

There's not many ways of making a levelling system perfect, and people will complain either way, but this is as good as it gets in Bethesda games as far as i know.

Plus, it'll be modded all sorts of ways within a few weeks (on the pc at least).

i've no objection at all to there being areas and enemies the player can't even scratch until later in the game, it's just having it right there by the starting area and forcing you down a certain path

i'm not even saying it was terrible it was just jarring and, imo, a step down from fallout 3. I did prefer fo3 to new vegas though so clearly my opinion isn't worth ****.

AlmightyCushion