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MMLP2 - Eminem 2013 Album

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    #602
    dobman88
    Registered Users Posts: 6,493 ✭✭✭dobman88


    Just listened to MMLP2..........again. I just can't warm to it. I want to like it so much but he is just past his best. I'm listening to Relapse now and that is better than MMLP2 (sigh). Thanks for the memories Em.


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    #603
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    dobman88 wrote: »
    Just listened to MMLP2..........again. I just can't warm to it. I want to like it so much but he is just past his best. I'm listening to Relapse now and that is better than MMLP2 (sigh). Thanks for the memories Em.

    it is by far his worse album his ever done IMO


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    #604
    MD1990
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    #605
    HighClass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭HighClass


    Thought that was pretty boring tbh. He looks like he's on drugs now more than he did when he was taking them.


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    #606
    Ardennes1944
    Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    I'm hoping they'll get into more detail in the next 3 parts


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    #607
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Album is in my regular headphone rotation and certain songs just keep getting better


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    #608
    Prodgey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Prodgey


    Illuminati-esque chain


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    #609
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Prodgey wrote: »
    Illuminati-esque chain

    Dog tags?


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    #610
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    kryogen wrote: »
    Dog tags?

    geniro?


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    #611
    Prodgey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Prodgey


    With a triangle inside a circle?


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    #612
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    i don't think this album is getting the full credit it deserves to be honest.


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    #613
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    theballz wrote: »
    i don't think this album is getting the full credit it deserves to be honest.

    because the majority do not like it. simple as that


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    #614
    Prodgey
    Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭Prodgey


    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    because the majority do not like it. simple as that

    Your massive ego does not make you the majority.


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    #615
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    Prodgey wrote: »
    Your massive ego does not make you the majority.

    Bitterness is sweet


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    #616
    theballz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭theballz


    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    because the majority do not like it. simple as that

    probably because the majority are too used to drake sh*t and probably never heard MMLP1.


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    #617
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    theballz wrote: »
    probably because the majority are too used to drake sh*t and probably never heard MMLP1.

    :pac::pac:

    now i have heard it all. ignorance is bliss


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    #618
    HighClass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭HighClass


    theballz wrote: »
    i don't think this album is getting the full credit it deserves to be honest.

    It's been getting great reviews and sold over 700k first week. What more do you want for it?


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    #619
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    Prodgey wrote: »
    With a triangle inside a circle?

    That's a sobriety chain

    https://www.google.ie/search?q=Sobriety+chain&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=EG-LUrK0DMGy7AbuhIGIDg&ved=0CEQQsAQ&biw=1518&bih=748


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    #620
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    Bitterness is sweet

    Its true though, the majority do like it and sales figures will back that point up. You and people you know not liking it is pretty insignificant really, regardless of how important you think you are


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    #621
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    HighClass wrote: »
    It's been getting great reviews and sold over 700k first week. What more do you want for it?

    Personally I would be happy if nobody made the claim "the majority don't like it" given its stupidity as a statement


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    #622
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    kryogen wrote: »
    Its true though, the majority do like it and sales figures will back that point up. You and people you know not liking it is pretty insignificant really, regardless of how important you think you are

    Just like the whole world loves Justin Beiber.

    When i meant by majority, i mean majority in this hip hop forum.

    i also am members of other hip hop forums and the majority there hate this album.

    Not one of my friends like this album too.

    To me it seems the hip hop scene may not like this album and as someone stated in this thread, Eminem could put a load of ****(which he has) and it will still sell well as the justin Bieber type fanbase(ie young teenagers from the pop scene) will love whatever crap eminem puts out.

    Now dont go taking my take on things as facts and gospels. All i am saying is what i have seen and read from various Hip Hop fans around the web and amongst real life people i know.


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    #623
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    Just like the whole world loves Justin Beiber.

    When i meant by majority, i mean majority in this hip hop forum.

    i also am members of other hip hop forums and the majority there hate this album.

    Not one of my friends like this album too.

    To me it seems the hip hop scene may not like this album and as someone stated in this thread, Eminem could put a load of ****(which he has) and it will still sell well as the justin Bieber type fanbase(ie young teenagers from the pop scene) will love whatever crap eminem puts out.

    Now dont go taking my take on things as facts and gospels. All i am saying is what i have seen and read from various Hip Hop fans around the web and amongst real life people i know.

    So you have ignored the reviews? Is it possible you are just seeing what you want to see? There is a pretty good review of it back through the thread a little by a pretty respected guy.

    I agree with the fact that Em could put out tripe and it would sell, but I disagree that this is rubbish, there are a couple of duds in there. But overall it really is a good album, I have made my points on this before and don't feel the need to go into them again

    Its cool that you and people you know don't like it, that's fine. Its also cool that plenty of other people do like it, its music.


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    #624
    jonneymendoza
    Registered Users Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭jonneymendoza


    kryogen wrote: »
    So you have ignored the reviews? Is it possible you are just seeing what you want to see? There is a pretty good review of it back through the thread a little by a pretty respected guy.

    I agree with the fact that Em could put out tripe and it would sell, but I disagree that this is rubbish, there are a couple of duds in there. But overall it really is a good album, I have made my points on this before and don't feel the need to go into them again

    Its cool that you and people you know don't like it, that's fine. Its also cool that plenty of other people do like it, its music.
    Yea so if its cool that i and others dont like it, why harp on about it?

    me and others have stated why we dont like it and people who do like it are wondering why? Going on as if the album is getting no credit at all?

    The reviews you read also love Justin Bieber to be honest so it doesnt matter about record sales or the amount of positive reviews. It doesnt decide for me if it is a good album or not as i am not a sheep.

    i make my own decisions mate and dont give a damm what your opinon is about a album. i am old enough to decide if an album is good or bad and this simply is a piece of **** and i am sadden by it as i a massive eminem fan


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    #625
    kryogen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    Yea so if its cool that i and others dont like it, why harp on about it?

    me and others have stated why we dont like it and people who do like it are wondering why? Going on as if the album is getting no credit at all?

    The reviews you read also love Justin Bieber to be honest so it doesnt matter about record sales or the amount of positive reviews. It doesnt decide for me if it is a good album or not as i am not a sheep.

    i make my own decisions mate and dont give a damm what your opinon is about a album. i am old enough to decide if an album is good or bad and this simply is a piece of **** and i am sadden by it as i a massive eminem fan


    If you don't give a damn about others opinions then why use them as part of your argument for the why you don't like the album?

    The reviews I read also love Justin Bieber? That's just an odd one, I cant say I have ever read a Bieber review never mind one who likes him. The only review reference I made is to a guy who is pretty respected in this forum, he liked the album. That is a direct contrast to you saying what you read on the web etc doesn't like it.

    Of course now your position has changed slightly, as I said, its great you don't like the album. Who cares though?

    My issue is hardly with someone not liking the album, you should probably read peoples posts before developing foot in mouth?


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    #626
    Mr. Rager
    Registered Users Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Mr. Rager


    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    Yea so if its cool that i and others dont like it, why harp on about it?

    Why harp on about it?

    Why harp on about it?

    Why harp on about it?

    Why harp on about it?

    WHY HARP ON ABOUT IT!?!?!?!?!?!?!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbT8nVb1ajQ

    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    jesus what the hell is this crap?

    officially dont care about this album.

    https://soundcloud.com/shadyrecords/themonster

    what a load of bollox.
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    why do people insist rappers need radio friendly pop crap to help albums sell?

    JayZ's magna carter holy grail album diddnt. It diddnt even NEED a damm single for it to sell like hot cakes.

    Take point Kendric Lamar. Again did he needed some pop song to help sell his album? matter of fact he ditched lady gag for bitch dont kill my vibe and literelly if lady gaga was there, the vibe would have been killed on that song.

    You dont need commercial pap to sell well, You just need to market it right. This is rap/hip hop, not bloody pop X factor type ****.

    Album heading to be the biggest flop of the year.
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    RIP Eminem. Your music is officially ****. The Old Eminem is dead and nowhere to be seen:( diabolical album. absolute shockingly bad!

    Edit: is that really Kendrick? mother of ****ing god why?

    What the **** was Kendrick SMOKING? this is absolutly ****ing shocking.

    Recover was a FARRRRRRRRRRRRR SUPERIOR album then this ****.

    Matter of fact, the latest BackStreet Boys album is more hip hop then this crap.
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    well said.

    I want someone like J cole or some other rapper to do a diss track and diss this piece of **** album. Maybe that will wake up eminem
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    This imo is not medicore. its downright shocking.

    I can list a whole bunch of commercial albums that are better then this.

    drake, jayz, j cole, danny brown, pusha T and possibly even freaking Big Seans hall of fame album is better and i dont like that album at all.

    You know i am a massive fan of eminen so its not as if i hated eminem's stuff. This is just shocking. i don't wear no rose tinted glasses. if an artist make bad ****, i will say it. Same as when Timbaland makes bad beats. i will be the first to say.
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    we should do a "post your top 5 albums of the year" thread and lets see how many put eminem in their top 5
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    load of garbage that so called review is.

    what damm legacy? his quickly tarnishing it
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    top 10 i am not sure but definitely the best song in the album. The album is shockingly bad.
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    Not on any of the songs minus bad guy.

    Drakes album pisses over this album literally.

    This album is one of the worse albums this year.

    I am or was a massive eminem fanboy and that is why i am damm right pissed and angry at eminem for making such a **** album.

    Dont mix me with someone who always hated and slated eminem
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    it is by far his worse album his ever done IMO
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    because the majority do not like it. simple as that
    jonneymendoza wrote: »
    Just like the whole world loves Justin Beiber.

    When i meant by majority, i mean majority in this hip hop forum.

    i also am members of other hip hop forums and the majority there hate this album.

    Not one of my friends like this album too.

    To me it seems the hip hop scene may not like this album and as someone stated in this thread, Eminem could put a load of ****(which he has) and it will still sell well as the justin Bieber type fanbase(ie young teenagers from the pop scene) will love whatever crap eminem puts out.

    Now dont go taking my take on things as facts and gospels. All i am saying is what i have seen and read from various Hip Hop fans around the web and amongst real life people i know.


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    #627
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    Prodgey wrote: »
    Illuminati-esque chain


    It's the alcoholics anonymous symbol. Plus the illuminati don't exist.


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    #628
    dutcher
    Site Banned Posts: 52 ✭✭dutcher


    He cant really talk about raping his own mother cumming inside her with no rubber and have a son and a new brother at the same time and say it aint mine.

    He has a 16 year old daughter or whatever age she is and cant really go on like that anymore with her listening to the records. Also could you imagine if he brought about another record about killing Halies mother and raping his mother. If he did bring out another record like that people would be like WTF and he allready did stuff like that. At 42 and a young daughter he cant really act like that anymore. He was a drug addict, nearly died and has changed.

    The Eminem show and the Marshall Mathers LP are his two greatest albums. Can he really top them and the answer is NO! People are expecting way too much from him. At 42 and still rapping and still been relevant is a major respect. His music is going in a different direction and just be glad he is still releasing. There is no way he can top those two albums.

    Do people expect him to be releasing better albums than those two classics. Not a chance.


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    #629
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    dutcher wrote: »

    The Slim shady LP and the Marshall Mathers LP are his two greatest albums.

    FYP


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    #630
    HighClass
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭HighClass


    dutcher wrote: »
    He cant really talk about raping his own mother cumming inside her with no rubber and have a son and a new brother at the same time and say it aint mine.

    He has a 16 year old daughter or whatever age she is and cant really go on like that anymore with her listening to the records. Also could you imagine if he brought about another record about killing Halies mother and raping his mother. If he did bring out another record like that people would be like WTF and he allready did stuff like that. At 42 and a young daughter he cant really act like that anymore. He was a drug addict, nearly died and has changed.

    The Eminem show and the Marshall Mathers LP are his two greatest albums. Can he really top them and the answer is NO! People are expecting way too much from him. At 42 and still rapping and still been relevant is a major respect. His music is going in a different direction and just be glad he is still releasing. There is no way he can top those two albums.

    Do people expect him to be releasing better albums than those two classics. Not a chance.

    I've lost count of how many times I've seen the "Sure he can't be rapping about rape and murder anymore can he?" response. I don't think anyone in the thread has said they want him to do that and imo some of his best tracks have none of that in them, Say Goodbye To Hollywood, Sing For The Moment, Deja Vu, Beautiful etc.

    Saying he couldn't have topped his early work is silly as well, it's been done by many rappers who are near his age. Nas, JayZ, Mos Def, Slug from Atmosphere off the top of my head, even Kool G Rap is still making some quality tracks and he's pushing 50!

    I think he gets a pass on a lot of things purely because he's Eminem. If he wanted to make music that his daughter could listen to, which imo shouldnt factor into it at all, he could have went the Nas route instead of making Kid Rock/Blink 182 sounding anthems.



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    #631
    conor.hogan.2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    HighClass wrote: »
    he could have went the Nas route

    Exactly.

    Or the KRS-ONE, Chuck-D, Jay-Z or Rakim route either to name 3 who have been making better music for longer and are all as old if not older and have all grown.


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