MMLP2 - Eminem 2013 Album

Jezek

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

Not either. My point stands despite the mediocre offerings given in response.

I'd have to question the aesthetic judgement of anyone who'd watch the Superbowl!

Paint drying etc......

Then you are beyond help

Underground

Doris300 wrote: »

Oh god.. Eminem fans :rolleyes:

It's the same thing with Floyd mayweather fans in the boxing forum,odd.

TheMza

Underground wrote: »

It's the same thing with Floyd mayweather fans in the boxing forum,odd.

G.O.A.T

jonneymendoza

pone2012 wrote: »

I did like the album exept the obvious weak parts parts but i can see how others dont

To be critical of the album the last verse on bad guy is one of Eminems best verses in my opinion

if you were to judge the rest of the album against only that verse its complete garbabge in comparison

Said same thing. Bad guy is his best song in this album. the rest is a joke. a complete joke that makes J cole and Drake outshine and out rhyme Eminem and thats saying something.

Schadenfreudia

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Said same thing. Bad guy is his best song in this album. the rest is a joke. a complete joke that makes J cole and Drake outshine and out rhyme Eminem and thats saying something.

Bad Guy is indeed the best song; there at least 10 other exceptionable songs.

SeaDaily

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Said same thing. Bad guy is his best song in this album. the rest is a joke. a complete joke that makes J cole and Drake outshine and out rhyme Eminem and thats saying something.

Haha, Drake out rhyme Eminem? Are you feeling okay?

Doris300

In terms of relevancy Chief Keef is more relevant than Em and that's nothing on Em but Keef is making better music right now. Legends need to know when to step down for fresher, better artists.

Bobby Baccala

Doris300 wrote: »

In terms of relevancy Chief Keef is more relevant than Em and that's nothing on Em but Keef is making better music right now. Legends need to know when to step down for fresher, better artists.

I've seen it all now

Jezek

Dunno about better music, but Keef (and Fredo, Fat Trel, etc) are a lot more influential right now than Eminem is.

Chip Whitley

Jezek wrote: »

Dunno about better music, but Keef (and Fredo, Fat Trel, etc) are a lot more influential right now than Eminem is.

I have literally never heard of any of them.

Googled Chief Keef... 3 things came up, a murder charge, a blow job pic on instagram and a beef with Katy Perry.

Jesus Christ. If this guy is more influential in the rap world than Eminem then God help us.

MD1990

Doris300 wrote: »

In terms of relevancy Chief Keef is more relevant than Em and that's nothing on Em but Keef is making better music right now. Legends need to know when to step down for fresher, better artists.

so Eminem should retire beacause u think Chief Keef is more relevant lol
i think your posts are no longer relevant tbh

Jezek

The Incredible Hulk wrote: »

I have literally never heard of any of them.

Googled Chief Keef... 3 things came up, a murder charge, a blow job pic on instagram and a beef with Katy Perry.

Jesus Christ. If this guy is more influential in the rap world than Eminem then God help us.

Haha sorry but if you don't know who Cheef Keef is then you're not realy keeping up with Hip-hop nowadays. He was in Yeezus, for example. He is hugely influential. Eminem isn't changing the face of rap, but Keef and Young Chop ( his early main producer) are changing the landscape, influencing production and shifting the landscape towards the drill sound.

SeaDaily

Jezek wrote: »

Haha sorry but if you don't know who Cheef Keef is then you're not realy keeping up with Hip-hop nowadays. He was in Yeezus, for example. He is hugely influential. Eminem isn't changing the face of rap, but Keef and Young Chop ( his early main producer) are changing the landscape, influencing production and shifting the landscape towards the drill sound.

I hope this is some sort of joke. Keef produces the sort of music that'd make your ears bleed.

SeaDaily

For those not aware this is some of Chief Keef's work. This is one of his most popular songs. Truly terrible.

"These bitches love Sosa
And they love them Glo' Boys
Know we from the 'Go boy
But we cannot go boy
No I don't know ol' boy
I know he's a broke boy
Raris and Rovers"

Yes, thanks for that Chief Keef, really great stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyHZNBz6FE

Jezek

SeaDaily wrote: »

I hope this is some sort of joke. Keef produces the sort of music that'd make your ears bleed.

I'm talking about how influential he is. Not how good he is. Please argue the point please if you don't agree.

SeaDaily

Jezek wrote: »

I'm talking about how influential he is. Not how good he is. Please argue the point please if you don't agree.

Okay well Chief Keef has 36,000,000 views on love sosa, the most of any of his songs. Eminem has nearly 500,000,000 for not afraid and 84,000,000 for Berzerk. I can therefore conclude that Eminem has greater influence than Chief Keef.

Jezek

SeaDaily wrote: »

Okay well Chief Keef has 36,000,000 views on love sosa, the most of any of his songs. Eminem has nearly 500,000,000 for not afraid and 84,000,000 for Berzerk. I can therefore conclude that Eminem has greater influence than Chief Keef.

again, you missed the point. Popularity isn't the same as influence. Sosa has changed rap music. eminem hasn't done this for a minute.

SeaDaily

Jezek wrote: »

again, you missed the point. Popularity isn't the same as influence. Sosa has changed rap music. eminem hasn't done this for a minute.

Sorry but in what way has Sosa changed rap? I challenge you to find to find an example of anyone at all saying they were inspired by Chief Keef. It is absurd to say Eminem hasn't changed rap.

Jezek

SeaDaily wrote: »

Sorry but in what way has Sosa changed rap? I challenge you to find to find an example of anyone at all saying they were inspired by Chief Keef. It is absurd to say Eminem hasn't changed rap.

I didn't say eminem hasnt changed rap. That WOULD be absurd.

Pusha T really likes Keef. Kanye is a fan, and working on new material right now. Gucci signed him . (this doesn't carry any weight, but GaGa also loves him ) I haven't found any famous rappers saying they were inspired by him, but if you listen out for the new rap releases the drill sound is far reaching. Young Chop's mixtape featured Freddie Gibbs and Juicy J with a drill-inspired sound... So the influence is out there. Of course it is a nebulous concept in itself, but it's out there...

Jezek

"Oh my God. This is incredible. This producer is incredible. I love it as a whole but this producer is incredible." -Kanye West. on hearing Keef for the first time. Of course Young Chop is getting most of the credit, this is fair enough he is extremely talented.

SeaDaily

Jezek wrote: »

"Oh my God. This is incredible. This producer is incredible. I love it as a whole but this producer is incredible." -Kanye West. on hearing Keef for the first time. Of course Young Chop is getting most of the credit, this is fair enough he is extremely talented.

That has nothing to do with Keef, Kanye is blatantly concentrating solely on the production, which I must admit is very good. If a talented rapper had a go at the beat for Love Sosa I'd say it would be great.

Jezek

SeaDaily wrote: »

That has nothing to do with Keef, Kanye is blatantly concentrating solely on the production, which I must admit is very good. If a talented rapper had a go at the beat for Love Sosa I'd say it would be great.

''I love it as a whole " too subtle for you? He is saying that he loves it as WHOLE even though he highlights the production. In any case, Keef's influence has been largely through his selection of beats and co-operation with producers like Young Chop. It's a whole scene (drill) that rose through streets of Chicago.

conor.hogan.2

MMLP2 known for its lyrics... "I must be allergic to failure cause everytime I come close to it / I just sneeze, but I just go achoo [at you] then achieve!" "That's like telling Gwen Stefan' that she sold out / Cause I was tryna leave, no doubt." the rapbot one, the car loan one ...

Boom_Bap

Just going to throw in my theory on Chief Keef.
If he wasn't from Chicago, Kanye would be paying attention. Kanye heard of a rapper from his city, getting a huge following, with a newish sound and jumped on it. I can nearly hear the ca-ching for kanye myself by working with him. Apparently that Sosa track is heard still in cars rolling around the US.

As far as a comparison between Em and Keef, that is a bit ridiculous. One is a well established rapper who has a career behind them.
The other is a guy that has a hit song and marketing potential....along with a rap sheet that is growing by the day.

Jezek

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Just going to throw in my theory on Chief Keef.
If he wasn't from Chicago, Kanye would be paying attention. Kanye heard of a rapper from his city, getting a huge following, with a newish sound and jumped on it. I can nearly hear the ca-ching for kanye myself by working with him. Apparently that Sosa track is heard still in cars rolling around the US.

As far as a comparison between Em and Keef, that is a bit ridiculous. One is a well established rapper who has a career behind them.
The other is a guy that has a hit song and marketing potential....along with a rap sheet that is growing by the day.

Well put and all fair points. We are not really comparing Em and Keef as rappers.We are comparing an established artist, now well into the mainstream, the apex of their career behind them, and an underground artist who is blowing up, and making a lot of waves.

Schadenfreudia

Jezek wrote: »

Keef and Young Chop ( his early main producer) are changing the landscape, influencing production and shifting the landscape towards the drill sound.

PERSONALLY I Prefer music ...........but if the sound of a drill turns you on ....

Jezek

Schadenfreudia wrote: »

PERSONALLY I Prefer music ...........but if the sound of a drill turns you on ....

How strange, I love music too! But we were not talking about personal preferences. Although I do like Young Chop's production, I'm not really a Chief Keef fan. You can't pretend it's not happening cause you don't like it. Drill music is huge with certain demographics...it's nothing to me I just think it's irrational to say, oh no that music isn't popular, I don't like it! I hate to think what Young Thug getting huge is gonna do to some people.

I think when the Kanye West produced Chief Keef songs from his new album come out he will be a lot harder to ignore.

SPS1

What I want to know is, for "The Monster" video, did they re-shoot Eminems old clips?

He certainly came along way since "Foolish Pride" 25 years ago :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chd8VzL2soY

MD1990

looking forwad to seeing the Headlights Video Sunday.

MD1990

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