Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

GavRedKing

That Butland bid is strange, I hope it doesnt see Courtois being swapped for Falcao.

Johner

Getting rid of Courtois would be a huge mistake, he is already the best young keeper in the world by far. He's only 20 and has the potential to be the best in the world.

Caveman1

Hilario & Turnbull are both out of contract at the en of the season, maybe Butland would be no.2 to Cech while Courtois spends another season on loan?

I suppose a lot will depend on what manager comes in at the end of the season, he's goning to want his full squad together and then decide who he wants to keep around.

Also Benitez has confirmed that Cech & Luiz are both out of tomorrows game at Reading. Turnbull in goal

GavRedKing

Johner wrote: »

Getting rid of Courtois would be a huge mistake, he is already the best young keeper in the world by far. He's only 20 and has the potential to be the best in the world.

Agreed, theres not many playing in Europe his age that can match him and i hope we keep him as he can be our number 1 for a decade easily.

Caveman1 wrote: »

Hilario & Turnbull are both out of contract at the en of the season, maybe Butland would be no.2 to Cech while Courtois spends another season on loan?

I suppose a lot will depend on what manager comes in at the end of the season, he's goning to want his full squad together and then decide who he wants to keep around.

Also Benitez has confirmed that Cech & Luiz are both out of tomorrows game at Reading. Turnbull in goal

Ah heyor!!

Thats a kick in the pants, we'll have to be clinical tomorrow night for the 3 points.

Courtois > Butland.

Caveman1

GavRedKing wrote: »

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Courtois > Butland.

True.

I suppose the thought behind it could be to buy Butland give him a run of games next season while Courtois is let stay at Madrid on loan in exchange for Falcao plus cash.

Then when Courtios comes back we could sell Butland for a profit if his stock rises while with us ?

Probably reading way too much into it :pac:

GavRedKing

That seem's overly complicated :pac:

Sell Cech, keep Courtois, pay full whack for Falcao, job done.

Sgt Pepper 64

GavRedKing wrote: »

That seem's overly complicated :pac:

Sell Malouda and Torres, keep Courtois, pay full whack for Falcao, job done.

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Where are we going to find the other €49 million to get Falcao?

peteeeed

GavRedKing wrote: »

Where are we going to find the other €49 million to get Falcao?

stern but fair

SlipperyPeople

like the russian police

Crann na Beatha

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GavRedKing

Phoenix wrote: »

If we get beat by Reading tommorrow,do ye think Roman will give Rafa the bullet?

Doubt it, we should be beating Reading anyway.

Best possible XI?

Turnbull
Azp Cahill JT Cole
Ramires Lamps
Oscar Mata Bertie
Ba

Although now could be the time for Rafa to change it up and go

Turnbull
Azp Cahill JT Cole
Ramires Lamps
Oscar Mata
Ba Torres

It would be a very bold move but i'd say we could pull it off, once he doesnt start Ba or Torres on the wing and the other through the middle I'll be happy.

DazMarz

I don't know what drugs some people are currently operating under, but Petr Cech is still one of the best goalkeepers going, regardless of who we may have waiting in the wings. Cech is an endlessly popular player at Chelsea, and I don't think he'll be sold or released until his contract expires at the very least. 3 years from now or so.

Courtois also needs to be kept; he is too good to warm the bench, so the solution is to leave him out on loan until he's needed.

A player who should be broken into the squad at the end of his loan deal (seeing as how Lamps appears to be going) is DeBruyne. He's a cracking young player and has he makings of one of the best CM's going.

Sgt Pepper 64

DazMarz wrote: »

I don't know what drugs some people are currently operating under, but Petr Cech is still one of the best goalkeepers going, regardless of who we may have waiting in the wings. Cech is an endlessly popular player at Chelsea, and I don't think he'll be sold or released until his contract expires at the very least. 3 years from now or so.

Courtois also needs to be kept; he is too good to warm the bench, so the solution is to leave him out on loan until he's needed.

A player who should be broken into the squad at the end of his loan deal (seeing as how Lamps appears to be going) is DeBruyne. He's a cracking young player and has he makings of one of the best CM's going.

Completely agree about our Kev. Having a good season in Germany and providing a few killer passes that we could do with

the_doctor199

GavRedKing wrote: »

Doubt it, we should be beating Reading anyway.

We've been saying that quite a bit on Wednesday nights lately though!

Sgt Pepper 64

the_doctor199 wrote: »

We've been saying that quite a bit on Wednesday nights lately though!

Gav should be banned for saying that sort of thing.
he said the same about QPR if I remember!

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Gav should be banned for saying that sort of thing.
he said the same about QPR if I remember!

WE SHOULD!!

Although because its an away game its a banker we'll win, if it was at home we'd be 2-0 and be lucky to draw the game by the time its over as is our home form.

homer simpson

GavRedKing wrote: »

WE SHOULD!!

Although because its an away game its a banker we'll win, if it was at home we'd be 2-0 and be lucky to draw the game by the time its over as is our home form.

Ah stop before you jinx it any more. No game is a banker as far as Chelsea are concerned anymore.

MUSEIST

So........has anyone signed any petitions lately:rolleyes::pac:

GavRedKing

homer simpson wrote: »

Ah stop before you jinx it any more. No game is a banker as far as Chelsea are concerned anymore.

Money in the bank :pac:

Ye can blame me if we dont win. :eek:

peteeeed

Ht in the european next gen u-19 match Ajax 1 Chelsea 2

peteeeed

Bad news for Chelsea I suppose , Moses scores twice for Nigeria and they qualify for quarter finals

Caveman1

peteeeed wrote: »

Ht in the european next gen u-19 match Ajax 1 Chelsea 2

That game finished 3-3, Islam Feruz scored twice, thats 13 in 19 for him, maybe its time he got a call up to the 1st team.

Chelsea will play Barcelona away in the last 16, its just the one game, hopefully Eurosport show this live.

Johner

How did Moses play did anyone see? At least the didn't let Mikel take a penalty this time.

peteeeed

Caveman1 wrote: »

That game finished 3-3, Islam Feruz scored twice, thats 13 in 19 for him, maybe its time he got a call up to the 1st team.

Chelsea will play Barcelona away in the last 16, its just the one game, hopefully Eurosport show this live.

4 of the 16 will be shown live on eurosport

GavRedKing

City dropping points was unexpected now we have pressure to go and win and go within 4 of them but also Reading will want something from the game seeing as Villa lost means Reading are only a point behind at the moment.

Sgt Pepper 64

Johner wrote: »

How did Moses play did anyone see? At least the didn't let Mikel take a penalty this time.

He was pretty good, took both his goals well, both penos.
His second peno was against a normal player as the goalie was sent off!

grumpymunster

Caveman1 wrote: »

That game finished 3-3, Islam Feruz scored twice, thats 13 in 19 for him, maybe its time he got a call up to the 1st team.

Chelsea will play Barcelona away in the last 16, its just the one game, hopefully Eurosport show this live.

Islam well worth a punt in the first team, pace to burn and choc full of confidence. Wouldn't start him but why not fire him on any game with 20 mins to go?

Sgt Pepper 64

Butland rejects us

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2270365/Jack-Butland-snubs-Chelsea-switch-Birmingham-accept-3m-offer.html

Johner

Fair play to him, he actually wants to play first team football instead of playing for a reserve team and then sit on the bench every weekend and collect a nice wage.

Panthro

Couldn't agree more Johner, fair play to him. Real ambition.
Cech has several years left in him anyways IMO.

DazMarz

As someone said, the words "should be beating them" has been bandied about far too much this season.

The following teams it has been said about:

QPR
Corinthians
Brentford
West Brom
Swansea
Fulham
West Ham
Southampton

These were games that we only drew or lost when we would/should have been favourites and should have won. But we didn't. No point in crying over spilt milk, but it is a bit sick when you look at some of the teams who have taken the scalp of the European Champions, or who have at least put it up to us and come away with a draw.

What makes it all the more galling is when you look at some of the teams we have beaten this season. We could go out an beat a huge team, then go out and struggle against a much lesser side. It's just infuriating.

There are actually no games left that we can take anything for granted anymore. None.

~Rebel~

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Butland rejects us

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2270365/Jack-Butland-snubs-Chelsea-switch-Birmingham-accept-3m-offer.html

Fair ****s to him indeed. Doubtless the fact that everyone know's he's now available for 3 million, he'll still get himself a move granting first team football. For that price, anyone looking around for a keeper will be interested I'd imagine.

GavRedKing

Top 4 is the aim for the season, few bits below.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/29/chelsea-rafael-benitez-top-four

The stand-in manager, whose contract at Stamford Bridge expires at the end of the season, met the technical director, Michael Emenalo, at the club's Cobham training base on Tuesday morning in the wake of defeat by Swansea in the Capital One Cup semi-final and Sunday's unconvincing draw at Brentford in the FA Cup. Emenalo – acting as a go-between for Abramovich – impressed upon Benítez that all efforts must focus on a top-four finish rather than retaining the FA Cup or winning the Europa League.

supporter opposition to the Spaniard continuing unabated, he is unlikely to earn a longer stay at the club and Chelsea have begun to consider their options for a long-term replacement.
Candidates on that list will include José Mourinho, Jürgen Klopp, Michael Laudrup and David Moyes, and the club are hopeful that Benítez will bequeath his successor Champions League football

~Rebel~

GavRedKing wrote: »

Top 4 is the aim for the season, few bits below.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/29/chelsea-rafael-benitez-top-four

I'd say ye'll get top 4 at a canter. Comfortable 3rd place to be honest. Never know, I wouldn't even rule out second. Only 7 points off it, with a game at hand.

They face Liverpool next, while you guys have 3 handy enough league fixtures before you play City yourselves. Wouldn't be surprised to see that as a "winner takes second" game. (for that gameday obviously, lots more twists and turns to come before the end of the season).

GavRedKing

~Rebel~ wrote: »

I'd say ye'll get top 4 at a canter. Comfortable 3rd place to be honest. Never know, I wouldn't even rule out second. Only 7 points off it, with a game at hand.

They face Liverpool next, while you guys have 3 handy enough league fixtures before you play City yourselves. Wouldn't be surprised to see that as a "winner takes second" game. (for that gameday obviously, lots more twists and turns to come before the end of the season).

Our consistency has been all over the place, we look excellent and terrible all within 90 minutes during some games, the sooner we have mikel and especially Moses back I'll be happier.

I'm still betting we'll finish 3rd but we certainly could finsih 2nd if we can oush on in the league and results elsewhwere go our way. We still have 3 huge away games ahead of us though, the Etihad, Anifeld and old Trafford so we cant take anything for granted at the moment, as long as we put daylight between oursleves and Spurs, arsenal and Everton I'll be happy.

Actually one positive thing about the Brentford replay is its another game that can reduce Hazard's ban.

GavRedKing

ESPN a bit late to the party.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/190840.html

Its still amazing to think that Courtois is only 20. :eek:

Crann na Beatha

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amiable

Eurosport are reporting that Chelsea have had a bid accepted for Jack Butland.
I know the Daily Mail reported last night that Butland had turned Chelsea down.
Time will tell but it does look like Chelsea are still in the mix for his signature.
There's a couple of reliable lads on twitter saying The Daily Mail story is false and I don't think a reporter even put his name to that article.

amiable

GavRedKing wrote: »

ESPN a bit late to the party.

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/190840.html

Its still amazing to think that Courtois is only 20. :eek:

To be fair Gav that link from ESPN has direct quotes from Butland's agent.

BBC's twitter feed is saying Butland has turned down Chelsea too but I can't see it on their website.

GavRedKing

I suppose its one we'll just have to watch over the next 30 odd hours.

Although any deal will probably see Butland been loaned back until the end of the season.

Duck Soup

The Butland thing is a bit odd to me. It's not like goalkeeper is a problem position with Cech and Courtois already on the books. I can only assume that they are intent on keeping Courtois happy by leaving him in Spain while Cech is No. 1 choice and they want Butland to take over from Turnbull as No. 3 in the pecking order, but No. 2 in practical terms for the Premiership.

But then, that doesn't make sense either, as Butland appears to have already stated that he's only interested in first team football, which would suggest we buy him and leave him at Birmingham. I'm confoozed.

DazMarz

It'd be a stupid move to go in for Butland. Unless it has something to do with having another English player in the squad or something. If we buy Butland, we'd have a wealth of goalkeepers that could line out for us:

Cech
Courtois
Turnbull
Hilario
Butland

Would be far too many. Not sensible at all. Even if we shed Hilario and Turnbull, we have Blackman waiting in the wings as well.

GavRedKing

Courtois in his 2 years at Atletico has won the UEFA cup and the UEFA Super cup and is on course to finish top 3 in Spain, we'd be bat s**t crazy to let him go and hes only a year older then Butland.

Sgt Pepper 64

Apparently Utd fans have started a "Keep Benitez" petition!

GavRedKing

Sgt Pepper 64 wrote: »

Apparently Utd fans have started a "Keep Benitez" petition!

They're only saying that so they get José. :eek:

They can fooooook off.

the_doctor199

Saw this and laughed..

S28382

This tells the truth........

GavRedKing

the_doctor199 wrote: »

Saw this and laughed..

Intrestingly enough, Torres squared both games up, who said his goals dont matter. :pac:

grumpymunster

An extra game ban totally unjustified so glad we are appealing

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21262564?