Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 12:35pm

should be a very interesting press conference with jose live at 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1mjwiw8M_s

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 12:38pm

from the guardian football page

'Big news about Willian's proposed move to the Premier League: word from a very reliable source has just filtered through to Guardian Towers that the Brazilian midfielder will not - repeat not - be moving to Tottenham. Despite completing a medical at White Hart Lane, he is no longer interested in a move to Spurs. In so far as you can presume anything in this game, it would appear he's off to Chelsea instead.'

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 12:48pm

peteeeed wrote: »

from the guardian football page

'Big news about Willian's proposed move to the Premier League: word from a very reliable source has just filtered through to Guardian Towers that the Brazilian midfielder will not - repeat not - be moving to Tottenham. Despite completing a medical at White Hart Lane, he is no longer interested in a move to Spurs. In so far as you can presume anything in this game, it would appear he's off to Chelsea instead.'

As long as it means we dont sell Mata or swap him then im indifferent to the Willian deal. it looks like classic chelsea and im talking about the SWP and Parker deals, basically getting guys so another team couldnt. was hoping we were past it as i dont think we need him unless we sell at least one AM or CF and move Scurrle or Moses as a CF.

Panthro · 23-08-2013 12:50pm

Don't think we need Willian. Awful funny if he surfaced at the Emirates!

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 12:58pm

Panthro wrote: »

Don't think we need Willian. Awful funny if he surfaced at the Emirates!

Hes a good player but weve about a dozen guys to play their and at least 2 of them are bettrr then him and 2/3 more are close to his level. Needless signing IMO.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:04pm

Hurry press conference.....

Saadyst · 23-08-2013 1:06pm

Started

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:09pm

willian an extra target to rooney (press conference)

'I want a 22-player squad. If somebody comes, somebody leaves. We don't need to sell, loan probably yes.'

Mourinho on Mata: 'He is a player we all like, a player we all want to keep. We want more quality, not less quality.'

'We are going to try until the last day to add more quality to our options.

Mourinho expresses the view that Willian will choose to join Chelsea, and that the transfer is a possibility

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:12pm

On Mata : No speculation we want to keep our quality not sell.

He did say that if one comes in one will go, more then likely on loan.

duploelabs · 23-08-2013 1:12pm

Mourinho on Mata: 'He is a player we all like, a player we all want to keep. We want more quality, not less quality.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:17pm

Jose on willian : i dont want to confirm just yet.........

Jaysus.

Johner · 23-08-2013 1:18pm

Sounds like Willian is a done deal to me.

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:19pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Jose on willian : i dont want to confirm just yet.........

Jaysus.

he is going to sign , the loan must be moses

Johner · 23-08-2013 1:19pm

Jose.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:19pm

Jose On willian : Do the medicial in secret.

He said he knowd what the pkayer wants.

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:20pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Jose On willian : Do the medicial in secret.

He said he knowd what the pkayer wants.

i love that, can they just pay the spurs doctor?

Essien · 23-08-2013 1:21pm

Yep, he seems very confident re Willian.

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:21pm

who's going to paddy power, BET THE HOUSE

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:23pm

encouraging the way he talked about mata

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:23pm

Hopefully the guy out the door is Ba. Schurrle can play through the middle as well. Id rather keep moses.

The Willian deal could be a two fingers too AVB and Spurs too considering AVBs chased him since his Chelsea days.

Jose must be very confident if he was so. openly answering the questions regarding him.

Johner · 23-08-2013 1:28pm

Moses on loan to Everton I'd imagine.

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:28pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Hopefully the guy out the door is Ba. Schurrle can play through the middle as well. Id rather keep moses.

The Willian deal could be a two fingers too AVB and Spurs too considering AVBs chased him since his Chelsea days.

Jose must be very confident if he was so. openly answering the questions regarding him.

agreed, that deal is done , might be a chelsea tv exclusive tonight

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:29pm

peteeeed wrote: »

agreed, that deal is done , might be a chelsea tv exclusive tonight

The mention of the secret medicial was funny alright. althoughbif he passes a spurs medicial he'd pass a chelsea medicial :pac:

cson · 23-08-2013 1:29pm

Buy all the wingers eh?

Be interesting to see who gets shafted. Arsenal will gladly give Mata game time if Ye're stuck.

Saadyst · 23-08-2013 1:30pm

Johner wrote: »

Moses on loan to Everton I'd imagine.

Hopefully not...

Still would be a lot happier if there was some news of a proven striker (although I guess that'll have to wait to see how the Rooney bid goes)

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:33pm

think we might see a champions league and premiership team rotation if they all stay

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:37pm

At has to be one or oth of Ba or Moses.

Mainly because it will be easier to move Ba then Torres.

The only thing about Willian is it will probably kill De Bruynes chances of a good couple of games this season.

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:41pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

At has to be one or oth of Ba or Moses.

Mainly because it will be easier to move Ba then Torres.

The only thing about Willian is it will probably kill De Bruynes chances of a good couple of games this season.

well we know jose likes to rotate so and as he says 22 outfield players , everyone will still get to play and be fresh unlike last season where we were very short in terms of squad players

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 1:52pm

man u press conference has just started

Moyes repeating Rooney not for sale. 'I hardly need to repeat it. It doesn't need to be said

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:53pm

peteeeed wrote: »

well we know jose likes to rotate so and as he says 22 outfield players , everyone will still get to play and be fresh unlike last season where we were very short in terms of squad players

Azp/Ivan Cahill/Jt Luiz/Kalas Cole/Bert

Essien/Ramires Lamps/MVG

Hazard/Mata Oscar/KDB Schurrle/Willian

Torres/Lukaku

Thats leaving out Ba, Moses and Mikel so far and the keepers.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 1:54pm

Mata on pre-season :

Training. This is always in pre-season. After having four weeks of holiday for the first time in as long as I can remember, it was very hard to come back from almost nothing to 100 per cent. I think that's why I had some muscle pain during that time

The guy isnt up to speed yet so any talk of him leaving is premature .

Andersonisgod · 23-08-2013 1:57pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Azp/Ivan Cahill/Jt Luiz/Kalas Cole/Bert

Essien/Ramires Lamps/MVG

Hazard/Mata Oscar/KDB Schurrle/Willian

Torres/Lukaku

Thats leaving out Ba, Moses and Mikel so far and the keepers.

Even with that I wouldn't be overly surprised if we see De Bruyne or Oscar playing a bit deeper the odd time.

peteeeed · 23-08-2013 2:01pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Azp/Ivan Cahill/Jt Luiz/Kalas Cole/Bert

Essien/Ramires Lamps/MVG

Hazard/Mata Oscar/KDB Schurrle/Willian

Torres/Lukaku

Thats leaving out Ba, Moses and Mikel so far and the keepers.

i think that's about right and needed , lampard and terry will not be able to play all the games and will also be good after champions league game to not field a weakend team

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 2:01pm

Of all the players I hope we cankeep and play, De Bruyne has to be up there.

Jose has an embarrassment of riches now to chose from within the squad that guys that dont make the squad will be full internationals and very good players.

For Ba to go then Schurrle will be number 3 striker, if Rooney fails, and its looking very likely it will, Jose said Willian was either plan B or C so I'm assuming Rooney is a no go and waste of time.

Mikel, is very surplus to requirements and so too is Essien but I reckon Essien would offer us more.

Moses, unfortunately despite being a good player when you compare him to the options we have hes not as good as the other 5 or 6 so a season on loan might help or he could be moved up front and leave Schurrle battle for the wide spot.

Torres, unlike Ba, I cant see him being sold even if we get another CF. It'll be ba out the door before him.

The we've still got Marin, Romeu & Courtois on loan, young guys like Josh Mac and Chalobah to come in, we've plenty of options for the foreseeable future.

Saadyst · 23-08-2013 2:17pm

Any ideas on who Ba would be offloaded to? Given the amount of time left before the window closes... Arsenal? :pac:

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 2:22pm

Saadyst wrote: »

Any ideas on who Ba would be offloaded to? Given the amount of time left before the window closes... Arsenal? :pac:

Theyve no need for him IMO.

If they were to come in for him I'm sure an offer would be considered though.

Amirani · 23-08-2013 2:24pm

Saadyst wrote: »

Any ideas on who Ba would be offloaded to? Given the amount of time left before the window closes... Arsenal? :pac:

I'm sure he'd find a home easy enough in Spain/Germany/Italy/France.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 2:25pm

NiallSparky wrote: »

I'm sure he'd find a home easy enough in Spain/Germany/Italy/France.

Hes a decent CF but I just dont think he offers us anything that Lukaku or Torres cant already.

He got a great goals against Utd and City last year but he didnt do it enough, how many times do we say that about Chelsea CF's though?

PeterTwo · 23-08-2013 2:30pm

NiallSparky wrote: »

I'm sure he'd find a home easy enough in Spain/Germany/Italy/France.

Last I heard was that Roma were considering a bid.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 2:49pm

Luiz likely to miss the Utd game but should be back for the Bayern game.

Thats worrying, given that we gave Villa 3 great chances and Benteke scored 1 of them if RVP had gotten them chances we'd have lost 3-2.

Saadyst · 23-08-2013 3:09pm

Last season we played very well against United tho.. I'm hoping nothing has changed for the worse. I'm hoping Azpil is on as well.

Panthro · 23-08-2013 3:21pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Luiz likely to miss the Utd game but should be back for the Bayern game.

Thats worrying, given that we gave Villa 3 great chances and Benteke scored 1 of them if RVP had gotten them chances we'd have lost 3-2.

We might have to go all Karate Kid and "sweep the leg"...
I am of course just kidding.
Say "no" to violence in football Kids.

Garzorico · 23-08-2013 3:51pm

GavRedKing wrote: »

Of all the players I hope we cankeep and play, De Bruyne has to be up there.

Jose has an embarrassment of riches now to chose from within the squad that guys that dont make the squad will be full internationals and very good players.

For Ba to go then Schurrle will be number 3 striker, if Rooney fails, and its looking very likely it will, Jose said Willian was either plan B or C so I'm assuming Rooney is a no go and waste of time.

Mikel, is very surplus to requirements and so too is Essien but I reckon Essien would offer us more.

Moses, unfortunately despite being a good player when you compare him to the options we have hes not as good as the other 5 or 6 so a season on loan might help or he could be moved up front and leave Schurrle battle for the wide spot.

Torres, unlike Ba, I cant see him being sold even if we get another CF. It'll be ba out the door before him.

The we've still got Marin, Romeu & Courtois on loan, young guys like Josh Mac and Chalobah to come in, we've plenty of options for the foreseeable future.

Mikel is a better option than Essien. Essiens knees are gone and with it his game. He wasnt shipped out on loan last season for nothing. Mikel can be/is frustrating at times but he's a better DM than Essien. Mikel is a hard mofo too and is more skillful than people give him credit for.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 4:15pm

Saadyst wrote: »

Last season we played very well against United tho.. I'm hoping nothing has changed for the worse. I'm hoping Azpil is on as well.

Id love to see

cech
azp ivan jt cole
ramires lamps
Oscar mata hazard
lukaku

For the Utd game. Oscar offers a good up and down option for the wing.

GavRedKing · 23-08-2013 4:17pm

Garzorico wrote: »

Mikel is a better option than Essien. Essiens knees are gone and with it his game. He wasnt shipped out on loan last season for nothing. Mikel can be/is frustrating at times but he's a better DM than Essien. Mikel is a hard mofo too and is more skillful than people give him credit for.

Ideally id like to see De Bruyne or Lamps and Ramires or MVG used as the pairings in CM for the games this year.