Chelsea Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013/14

homer simpson

That's Chelsea's bogey team played (and lost to early on). Ain't seen a team defend like that in a long time. Fair play Everton...

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Eto'o looks well passed it

Essien

homer simpson wrote: »

That's Chelsea's bogey team played (and lost to early on). Ain't seen a team defend like that in a long time. Fair play Everton...

The did defend brilliantly in fairness and yeah, I hate Everton away, at least it's done now.

Legion.

Oh dear. Like OHHHHH DEAR. We don't usually do well at Everton but it still hurts to take a loss four games in.

Garzorico

Everton are cannon fodder. Stephen Naisimth, in all fairness. We should have been 5/6 up prior to them scoring.
They defended ok in the 2nd half but we didn't threaten mearly enough. Talking Mata off was a mystifying decision.
I didn't want Jose back and I haven't seen anything to change my mind yet.

Essien

The "top 3" don't really appear to have that gulf in class everyone was expecting. Apart from City's first game against Newcastle, all 3 have been largely underwhelming. Maybe time will tell but so far, everyone looks vulnerable. Bodes well for an exciting season if nothing else.

homer simpson

Garzorico wrote: »

Everton are cannon fodder. Stephen Naisimth, in all fairness. We should have been 5/6 up prior to them scoring.
They defended ok in the 2nd half but we didn't threaten mearly enough. Talking Mata off was a mystifying decision.
I didn't want Jose back and I haven't seen anything to change my mind yet.

Everton are far from Fodder, especially when at home. They fought for everything and counter attacked superbly. Losing away to them is no big deal.


Jose will grind out results, i'll take that all day over attacking and conceding sloppy goals at the other end like we have been so frustratingly does the past few years.

McDave

Everton are no pushover. Having said that, in many ways we played like the home team, and it's a pity we didn't convert at least once.

Mourinho didn't get his striker in the end, so he's going to spend this season getting the most out of a squad not in his own image, and planning a big overhaul for next season.

We may not win any trophies, which would be a pity as with all the teams in transition the premiership is there for the taking. Still it's early days, and if Mou concentrates only on the Prem and UCL, we should be well in the hunt for both. We won't be running away with the premiership though.

Garzorico

homer simpson wrote: »

Everton are far from Fodder, especially when at home. They fought for everything and counter attacked superbly. Losing away to them is no big deal.


Jose will grind out results, i'll take that all day over attacking and conceding sloppy goals at the other end like we have been so frustratingly does the past few years.

Is that not exactly what the team did today?

I know its early but we have to date:
beaten a newly promoted team that will w/o doubt be relegated, 2-0 at home.
Just about beat more cannon fodder at home in Villa.
Played out an obvious 0-0 against a not exactly inspired Utd.
Couldn't score against a mid-table team this evening.

the_monkey

2 Things

1)
Rubbish
4 games in and allready league campaign is over.
I didn't want Eto'o he hates Chelsea and Mourinho and his heart is not in this, he will score max 3 goals in all competitions this season - 2 of them probably v Lincoln City in the league cup.
This bollix about "the hate has turned to love" - crap, what else is he going to say?

2)
Why was I kicked out of the shed end supporters fantasy football league ???

Dave0301

the_monkey wrote: »

2 Things

1)
Rubbish
4 games in and allready league campaign is over. . . . . . .

I didn't realise the next 35 games don't count towards the league??

djPSB

Bring back Rafa

duploelabs

bring back avram

greendom

Bring back Bates

DazMarz

the_monkey wrote: »

2 Things

1)
Rubbish
4 games in and allready league campaign is over.
I didn't want Eto'o he hates Chelsea and Mourinho and his heart is not in this, he will score max 3 goals in all competitions this season - 2 of them probably v Lincoln City in the league cup.
This bollix about "the hate has turned to love" - crap, what else is he going to say?

2)
Why was I kicked out of the shed end supporters fantasy football league ???

Ah jaysus, It's good to see that old fashioned optimism is still alive and well! Classic stuff, monkey. Keep it up. On dark days like this, your posts are actually a ray of sunshine.

And have a quick read through your post if you want to know why you were kicked out of a Chelsea supporters FFL...

McDave

Jose Mourinho has accused Chelsea of lacking a “killer instinct”. For such an accusation to come from a manager for whom that quality is a given, it was damning – and one that will reverberate. This could turn out to be a watershed moment for some Chelsea players.
“Artistic football without goals is not good,” Mourinho continued after this 1-0 defeat, the first he has ever suffered at Goodison Park. On six previous visits he has gained four wins and two draws but the Happy One was understandably unhappy. He demands efficiency, not fluffiness.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/10302668/Everton-1-Chelsea-0-match-report.html

People say it's early days yet. But not to the January window. I'm guessing certain players are on ten games, or even less, to prove their worth to Mourinho's way of playing. If they don't, they'll find themselves sidelined by early November and effectively on the market.

Etoo is a low cost risk. He can come good and get a decent haul of goals, or flop and be third string if a better striker is brought in in January.

I think what's clear though is that yesterday's result [and indeed the first four games of the season] was par for our course over recent years, and with this kind of ineffectual scoring we're not going to win the premiership - unless it turns into a slow bicycle race.

Some major changes are in the offing over the next 12 months. I do fear for Mata. Less so Luiz, who can be deployed both in defence and in front of defence, and who is a very good option for the different game required in the UCL.

Crann na Beatha

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the_monkey

Arsenal top,

the joke gets funnier

GavRedKing

We were very unlucky not to win yesterday. With all the huff and puff we couldnt score. Eto'o was unlucky. Mata wasnt good enough. Mikel was better then Ramires. Oscar is becoming a guy we're very dependent on and was missed. Willian one side and Hazard the other will give us huge potential to cut teams open.

Plebty of points to play for yet, so moneky your posts are pointless and pathetic really,calling the season over after 4 games is beyond funny really.

fozz10

Football supporters can be pathetic. People bitching about this and that. It's a defeat and we were unlucky. 3/4 wins on the trot and theyll be singing the teams praises. Take the good with the bad cause we''ll Lose another few times too as will all the other contenders.it's a long season although it's hard to see how we wont pay for not having a 20 league goals striker

GavRedKing

fozz10 wrote: »

Football supporters can be pathetic. People bitching about this and that. It's a defeat and we were unlucky. 3/4 wins on the trot and theyll be singing the teams praises of the team. Take the good with the bad cause we''ll Lose another few times too as will all the other contenders.it's a long season although it's hard to see how we wont pay fir not having a 20 league goals striker

Ya, in Ba, Torres and Eto'o im not sure if one of them can get 15-20league goals that we'll need from one of them.

GavRedKing

So Basel on Wednesday night, we've to win to start of the UCL campaign and get some wind back in the sails prior to the Fulham game.

Oh and another thing, I despise Jamie Redknapp, I could go into a rant about him but its like repeating what we all know.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2421270/David-Luiz-defensive-liability-Chelsea--Jamie-Redknapp.html

grumpymunster

Was disappointing on Saturday for sure but that is all in my view. Our lack of goalscoring is a concern about 225 minutes of premier league with no goals is not good enough.

Eto'o at least got into the right positions on Saturday and worked hard enough I though, made some lovely runs that didn't come off but will do in time. Taking Ash off totally unbalanced the team so it is hard to say what Nando brought to the party but he did nothing of merit whilst he was on.

I am hoping Mata was not match fit otherwise you have to start wondering about his future with us.

GavRedKing

grumpymunster wrote: »

Was disappointing on Saturday for sure but that is all in my view. Our lack of goalscoring is a concern about 225 minutes of premier league with no goals is not good enough.

Eto'o at least got into the right positions on Saturday and worked hard enough I though, made some lovely runs that didn't come off but will do in time. Taking Ash off totally unbalanced the team so it is hard to say what Nando brought to the party but he did nothing of merit whilst he was on.

I am hoping Mata was not match fit otherwise you have to start wondering about his future with us.

Matas not a nailed on starter right now for us.

Although there is about 7/8 who are.

Cech
Ivan JT Luiz Cole
Ramires ??
?? Oscar Hazard
??

GavRedKing

One thing about Eto'o, I'd agree with Grumpy, he was in the right places and put himelf about, another day he could have had 3, Ramires was unlucky, Howard made a great save from his volley, I thought Schurrle was poor and I dont think he'll start Wednesday, his chance was one of the best and to miss the target all together from there was muck, had that been Hazard or Eto'o coming in I would have fancied them to bury it.

peteeeed

grumpymunster wrote: »

Was disappointing on Saturday for sure but that is all in my view. Our lack of goalscoring is a concern about 225 minutes of premier league with no goals is not good enough.

Eto'o at least got into the right positions on Saturday and worked hard enough I though, made some lovely runs that didn't come off but will do in time. Taking Ash off totally unbalanced the team so it is hard to say what Nando brought to the party but he did nothing of merit whilst he was on.

I am hoping Mata was not match fit otherwise you have to start wondering about his future with us.

totally , gave everton and out ball down the left with luiz trying to cover all positions , we were well on top and i thought there was no need to go all out, eto once he's dusted the cobwebs off played quite well, thought the diving header was going to go in , i think he'll do well for us

grumpymunster

GavRedKing wrote: »

One thing about Eto'o, I'd agree with Grumpy, he was in the right places and put himelf about, another day he could have had 3, Ramires was unlucky, Howard made a great save from his volley, I thought Schurrle was poor and I dont think he'll start Wednesday, his chance was one of the best and to miss the target all together from there was muck, had that been Hazard or Eto'o coming in I would have fancied them to bury it.

That was a terrible touch from Schurrle alright, I had forgotten about that, thanks Gav . Oscar and Hazard have been consistent when played, KdB and Schurrle have mixed the good with the bad. Mata has not done much as yet, not really had a chance though. Will Willian, Oscar, Hazard, Eto'o become our first choice attacking line up?

GavRedKing

grumpymunster wrote: »

That was a terrible touch from Schurrle alright, I had forgotten about that, thanks Gav . Oscar and Hazard have been consistent when played, KdB and Schurrle have mixed the good with the bad. Mata has not done much as yet, not really had a chance though. Will Willian, Oscar, Hazard, Eto'o become our first choice attacking line up?

I know if it was Football Manager I'd be inclined to go with

Cech
Ivan JT Cahill Cole
Luiz Oscar
Hazard Mata Willian
Eto'o


Reason - Luiz in CM would be better defensively then Ramires and offer more on the ball then Mikel and with Oscar playmaking from deep the emphasis on Mata or whoever in the CAM wouldnt be as important.

Its probably our most attacking lineup and more then likely something we'll never see but Luiz showed hes able in CM while Oscar is as yet unproven in their but he'd need a guy to sit in there and let him to his thing coz he can mix it up too but a guy in there thats more then willing to do the dirtier work would suit him.

Andersonisgod

Neville here doing a good piece on David Luiz and the differences in football culture that creates different kinds of centre backs. Carragher meanwhile showing a complete lack of understanding that not every defender is thought the English way, and of course Luiz has just won a Confederations Cup with Brazil and Pique has won everything with Barcelona and Spain.

Pj!

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Neville here doing a good piece on David Luiz and the differences in football culture that creates different kinds of centre backs. Carragher meanwhile showing a complete lack of understanding that not every defender is thought the English way, and of course Luiz has just won a Confederations Cup with Brazil and Pique has won everything with Barcelona and Spain.

Just wanted Carragher to shut up during that.

Panthro

Barca love, yawn.

homer simpson

The Sturridge thing has me perplexed...

He was sulky and wasteful when at Chelsea but is thriving at Liverpool a player cannot swing in form (for such a prolonged period of time) for no reason. I wonder what it was, training regime???

RichT

homer simpson wrote: »

The Sturridge thing has me perplexed...

He was sulky and wasteful when at Chelsea but is thriving at Liverpool a player cannot swing in form (for such a prolonged period of time) for no reason. I wonder what it was, training regime???

He's playing week in week out as opposed to mainly on the bench with an occasional start when at Chelsea. That's gotta inspire confidence in himself.

However if when 'The Biter' comes back and Rodgers decides to rotate them, we might see a difference in his attitude.

GavRedKing

homer simpson wrote: »

The Sturridge thing has me perplexed...

He was sulky and wasteful when at Chelsea but is thriving at Liverpool a player cannot swing in form (for such a prolonged period of time) for no reason. I wonder what it was, training regime???

He was never really played through the middle for us, simple.

The talent is there alright for the young lad.

GavRedKing

Watching the Liverpool game, thats one reason we got rid of him, he can be very selfish and greedy and headless, but hes hit the net with a couple of those attempts for Liverpool so far in his career.

GavRedKing

RichT wrote: »

He's playing week in week out as opposed to mainly on the bench with an occasional start when at Chelsea. That's gotta inspire confidence in himself.

However if when 'The Biter' comes back and Rodgers decides to rotate them, we might see a difference in his attitude.

I reckon we'll see Suarez playing in the support role.

Sturridge
Suarez Couthino Moses

Andersonisgod

GavRedKing wrote: »

He was never really played through the middle for us, simple.

The talent is there alright for the young lad.

A bit like Torres, he suits Liverpool more than Chelsea. Most teams simply wont play as high a line against Chelsea as they do against Liverpool. Chelsea are not as quick to go from back to front to find the striker on the shoulder of the last defender as Liverpool are. Drogba, for the way we play, suited us down to the ground, the perfect Chelsea striker. Neither Torres or Sturridge are Drogba.

Johner

Moses is destroying Swansea.

GavRedKing

Sakho hasnt started well for Liverpool but he is a very good player, surprised we didnt show any interest really.

Garzorico

homer simpson wrote: »

The Sturridge thing has me perplexed...

He was sulky and wasteful when at Chelsea but is thriving at Liverpool a player cannot swing in form (for such a prolonged period of time) for no reason. I wonder what it was, training regime???

Sturridge was a show pony when playing for Chelsea. Never passed. Always shot no matter what the angle. He's not a bad player but frustrating to say the least.
Moses is the perfect Jose type player. Good going forward, strong in defence a great engine, Scores goals. Surprised at that one.

Johner

Sturridge needs to be number 1, its that simple!

Saadyst

Surprised people are saying they're worried about Mata's future... when there's Ba and Torres that are surely at the front of the line for being shipped out if the opportunity presents itself. Madness to start contemplating moving someone on at this stage of the season, when they've been the player of the year for two years running.

grumpymunster

Saadyst wrote: »

Surprised people are saying they're worried about Mata's future... when there's Ba and Torres that are surely at the front of the line for being shipped out if the opportunity presents itself. Madness to start contemplating moving someone on at this stage of the season, when they've been the player of the year for two years running.

Different players we cant ship out Ba and Torres without replacements not so the case with Mata. Not sure anyone on here wants him shipped out but worried he might be.

Personally I hope his season is just being managed, he will not make the Spanish world cup side for what he did in August and September but if he is still firing on all cylinders come April and May and we are in the thick of things he will.

Saadyst

grumpymunster wrote: »

Different players we cant ship out Ba and Torres without replacements not so the case with Mata. Not sure anyone on here wants him shipped out but worried he might be.

Personally I hope his season is just being managed, he will not make the Spanish world cup side for what he did in August and September but if he is still firing on all cylinders come April and May and we are in the thick of things he will.

Yep, you're right, but I would have thought the heat would have been more on those two than Mata. He's only had one game since the start of the season!

I've every confidence that he won't be discarded or sidelined with such fickleness.

Whether he might not be the player that plays every game as in previous seasons... remains to be seen. Could be in rotation depending on tactics needed for the match.

grumpymunster

I think Ba and Torres are dead men walking really

duploelabs

Just posted by Eden

peteeeed

up there with jose's best

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/chelsea/10315671/Chelsea-v-Basle-Jose-Mourinho-ready-for-another-crack-at-the-Champions-League.html

GavRedKing

What channel(s) are showing our match tonight?

peteeeed

GavRedKing wrote: »

What channel(s) are showing our match tonight?

sky sports

GavRedKing

peteeeed wrote: »

sky sports

Thought as much. :(

I'll bloody miss it so.