Costs of making a derelict house livable

Corindabhoy · 19-01-2013 1:36am #1

Hi All,

I know this wont be an exact cost but would any one have a rough idea of how much to make a derelict house habitable

Ive my eye on a 2 bedroom cottage in the west

D3PO · 19-01-2013 2:05am

how long is a piece of string

ABajaninCork · 19-01-2013 2:09am

Might be cheaper to knock it and start over...

dpofloinn · 19-01-2013 2:15am

Just how derelict is it? are we talking 5 years 50 years 100 years? Does it have a sound roof ,windows, doors, floors?. Has it seen generations of farm animals born and raised within its walls?

the_syco · 19-01-2013 2:38am

Ball park estimate; €9 million :P

Two questions; does it have a thatched roof, and is it very old? If the former, it may be listed saying you need to leave it thatched (and not tile it), and the latter would mean you couldn't put an extension on it, etc.

Some cottages are left rot, as it would cost twice as much to build bigger one. You'll often see a newer house nearby it which is twice it's size for this reason.

Corindabhoy · 19-01-2013 2:46am

ABajaninCork wrote: »

Might be cheaper to knock it and start over...

:rolleyes:

D3PO · 19-01-2013 2:50am

Corindabhoy wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Dont be so ignorant. Coming on here as a new poster asking a stupidly openended question and then reply like that when somebody posts a genuinely worthwhile comment.

go waste your money on this project none of us care.

Corindabhoy · 19-01-2013 2:53am

D3PO wrote: »

Dont be so ignorant. Coming on here as a new poster asking a stupidly openended question and then reply like that when somebody posts a genuinely worthwhile comment.

go waste your money on this project none of us care.

go **** yourself

cup of tea · 19-01-2013 3:03am

I'm looking at buying a house in ireland, not sure what size house I want or where I want it to be located.How much will it set me back d'ya reckon?

Cavehill Red · 19-01-2013 3:06am

Corindabhoy wrote: »

go **** yourself

That's lovely. Spend every penny you have is my recommendation. Then borrow to the hilt and spend that too.

D3PO · 19-01-2013 3:09am

Corindabhoy wrote: »

go **** yourself

enjoy your ban :cool:

D3PO · 19-01-2013 3:10am

cup of tea wrote: »

I'm looking at buying a house in ireland, not sure what size house I want or where I want it to be located.How much will it set me back d'ya reckon?

Three Fiddy

dienbienphu · 19-01-2013 3:18am

its a good question but I can imagine its about half the price you would pay during the boom years. so if you can figure that out you have your answer...

Corindabhoy · 19-01-2013 3:28am

cup of tea wrote: »

I'm looking at buying a house in ireland, not sure what size house I want or where I want it to be located.How much will it set me back d'ya reckon?

good question mate

prices are higher in Dublin but the low end of the scale in Dublin would be 50k - the average about 250K and then the upper end would be 500k plus

if you want to PM me what exactly your looking at Ill provide more details such as estate agents,lawyers,good websites etc

kind regards

Victor · 19-01-2013 5:33pm

Corindabhoy wrote: »

go **** yourself

No need for this.

In fact, seeing as you are looking for help, it is against your interests to do this.

Moderator

leeomurchu · 19-01-2013 5:35pm

D3PO wrote: »

enjoy your ban :cool:

Slap on the wrists only I'd bet

Victor · 19-01-2013 6:08pm

On topic, please

Moderator

leeomurchu · 19-01-2013 6:25pm

Right so.

OP it'd be easier to guess how many blocks in the Great wall of China.

Fill in the gaps a bit.

Have you had any surveys done on it?

What condition is the building walls/roof/foundations.

Damp issues?

Land ownership?

What are your plans for restoring/renovating to what standard?

Are you looking to extend it, can you extend it?

What's the sewerage system like, main/septic tank?

Is there a power supply will you have to pay the ESB for a new supply will they have to out in pylons to get power to you. This will be a considerable cost.

What access is there to the cottage will you have to build an access road?

Before you even get going, all it will cost you is time to see if you can buy it and then to get a structural engineers report on it. It's more than likely the foundations aren't the may west. Then you'll need an architect for plans. You might have to apply for planning permission.

The bills just for the few services I've mentioned could run into thousands alone.

As one poster said how long is a piece of string??

tictac2013 · 20-01-2013 10:05pm

I had my eye on a cottage for 30k and was hoping to get it liveable for another 20k with doing all the work myself and buying 2nd hand kitchen/bathroom or even ones that where on show selling real cheap. If your going to pay for most the labour then the bill will rise alot.

What sort of budget do you have

ABajaninCork · 20-01-2013 10:54pm

You'd also need to budget for gas and electrical contractors. It's illegal to get anyone that is not on the Gas Register (or whatever it's called here) to do any gas work. For safety's sake it's best to get a proper electrical contractor to wire the place.

I'm not sure about here, but certainly in the UK it's also illegal to get anyone other than a registered electrician to do any domestic work.

jimmydkid · 21-01-2013 9:01pm

I renovated a two bedroom cottage a couple of years ago, it was in pretty bad nick needed roof and windows and fully gutted inside. I spent €42k on it and finished it to a high standard, I done a lot of the work myself. You really need to do a lot of homework on those old cottages

tictac2013 · 21-01-2013 9:15pm

jimmydkid wrote: »

I renovated a two bedroom cottage a couple of years ago, it was in pretty bad nick needed roof and windows and fully gutted inside. I spent €42k on it and finished it to a high standard, I done a lot of the work myself. You really need to do a lot of homework on those old cottages[/Quote/)

How much work did you do yourself and can you break the costs down gor us abit more.

tictac2013 · 21-01-2013 9:16pm

sorry, messed uo my post above as im on my phone

Corindabhoy · 21-01-2013 11:31pm

cheers for the replies lads- the initial posters with their sarcy comments have showed me a darker side to this forum but the last few posts have showed me that not all the inhabitants of this forum are treacherous quislings and for that Im grateful

Next question my friends - should I get a quanitity surveyor ,structural engineer or an architect to have a look at the place and tell me how much it will cost to fix and how easy it will be for planning permission

how much would that cost?

the_syco · 22-01-2013 2:39am

Corindabhoy wrote: »

the initial posters with their sarcy comments have showed me a darker side to this forum

:rolleyes:

Corindabhoy wrote: »

structural engineer

Get one of these in to see if the place is worth saving. Depending on how long it's been derelict for, it may be costly to get it back up to scratch. Also, it may be good to find out when the house was originally built, as some of the older houses may not have much in the way of a floor. Finally, find out if the area was flooded since the house was built, and was this the reason for the dereliction? Although some people leave a house due to death, it may have been seen as cheaper to let the house go than to try to fix it after fire/flood/etc.

=-=

Cost will vary, as some structural engineers are architects, but some architects may not be structural engineers. And some are cowboys. Try to get one by word of mouth.

Corindabhoy · 22-01-2013 3:55am

the_syco wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Get one of these in to see if the place is worth saving. Depending on how long it's been derelict for, it may be costly to get it back up to scratch. Also, it may be good to find out when the house was originally built, as some of the older houses may not have much in the way of a floor. Finally, find out if the area was flooded since the house was built, and was this the reason for the dereliction? Although some people leave a house due to death, it may have been seen as cheaper to let the house go than to try to fix it after fire/flood/etc.

=-=

Cost will vary, as some structural engineers are architects, but some architects may not be structural engineers. And some are cowboys. Try to get one by word of mouth.

its 20 years old

any structural enigneers post here?

The_Conductor · 22-01-2013 8:57am

Corindabhoy - even if there are structural engineers who post here (which there certainly are), they are unlikely to identify themselves, and they certainly wouldn't offer professional advice on the very scant information provided.

I seriously suggest you read the forum charter if you wish to continue posting in this forum- and I'd also suggest you attack a post without attacking the poster, if you disagree with what someone else posts. It is not acceptable to attack other forum members. If you take umbrage at what someone else posts and don't feel capable of responding to the post without attacking someone- use the report post function (that triangle with the exclamation mark in it) to bring the post to the attention of moderators along with details of why you think the post is problematic.

Consider this a warning.

Regards,

SMcCarrick

Costs of making a derelict house livable

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