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The Administration of HMV

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    #32
    Morf
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    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Is €22.99 really considered pricey? I'd consider that a reasonable enough price.


    Reasonable enough? For a half-arsed mish-mash of odds and ends tracks?


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    #33
    spiralism
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    I miss the days of browsing the cd shops as a teenager and i feel the industry is dead now, which is a real shame. Musicworld went in my home town of Athlone and anyone who lived there would tell you that the shop was basically an institution in the town for years. When that goes and HMV fold i cannot for the life of me see the industry survive except as a niche. Admittedly i havent bought CDs in some time but have a 3/400 strong collection built up over about 7 or 8 years.

    I think it's a combination though. People download, especially as torrents really came to the fore at the end of the last decade. Not only that but the charts are flooded with music marketed to a customer base that wont bother buying it anyways. That's what was keeping the places open, not a few metalheads buying the odd cd here and there. Look at places like soundcellar who specialise, they do alright because of the niche market. End of the day a few lads buying their rock and metal at HMV and the likes wasnt keeping the wolf from the door, it was the people buying the chart music. That went digital and the vast majority just downloading it as well as them getting undercut by Tesco, the shops were ****ed.


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    #34
    SilverScreen
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    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Also, D.Q. You're suggesting that people should download illegally? pretty much proves my point about stores like HMV going out of business.
    No it doesn't, piracy was already rife before illegal downloading became a big thing with tape dubbing, taping from the radio and CD burning and it didn't cause the likes of HMV much damage. The whole "home taping is killing music" thing didn't shut down the music retail industry. What's killing the likes of HMV is online retailers like Amazon and also the huge rents that they have to pay.
    spiralism wrote: »
    I miss the days of browsing the cd shops as a teenager and i feel the industry is dead now, which is a real shame. Musicworld went in my home town of Athlone and anyone who lived there would tell you that the shop was basically an institution in the town for years. When that goes and HMV fold i cannot for the life of me see the industry survive except as a niche. Admittedly i havent bought CDs in some time but have a 3/400 strong collection built up over about 7 or 8 years.
    As much as it was an institution it also had a piss-poor selection of stock and for a number of years ripped off customers to no end. It was still a bit sad to see it go as the lads working in there were dead sound, but at the same time I hadn't bought much in there for a good while because of their poor selection. I just shrugged and moved on.

    Most CDs I buy now are cheap second-hand CDs from the likes of Freebird in Dublin but most of my music collection is now digital downloads.


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    #35
    spiralism
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    Zero1986 wrote: »
    No it doesn't, piracy was already rife before illegal downloading became a big thing with tape dubbing, taping from the radio and CD burning and it didn't cause the likes of HMV much damage. The whole "home taping is killing music" thing didn't shut down the music retail industry. What's killing the likes of HMV is online retailers like Amazon and also the huge rents that they have to pay.


    As much as it was an institution it also had a piss-poor selection of stock and for a number of years ripped off customers to no end. It was still a bit sad to see it go as the lads working in there were dead sound, but at the same time I hadn't bought much in there for a good while because of their poor selection. I just shrugged and moved on.

    Most CDs I buy now are cheap second-hand CDs from the likes of Freebird in Dublin but most of my music collection is now digital downloads.

    They ordered anything i asked, no questions. Got all sorts from there. Never really thought of them as a rip off either, i remember getting classic metal like rust in peace for 8 euro. Though having said that, in their last couple of years it went to **** and there was never anything good in stock..


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    #36
    SilverScreen
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    spiralism wrote: »
    They ordered anything i asked, no questions. Got all sorts from there. Never really thought of them as a rip off either, i remember getting classic metal like rust in peace for 8 euro. Though having said that, in their last couple of years it went to **** and there was never anything good in stock..
    They did have a few bargains like that alright, but I remember ten years ago or more just after the euro came in it wasn't surprising to see them charging €21.99 for an album.


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    #37
    RayCon
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    Confirmed today that all 16 stores were loss making and no buyer could be found. They will no be reopening in any capacity - all 300+ jobs gone.


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    #38
    Jijsaw
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    RayCon wrote: »
    Confirmed today that all 16 stores were loss making and no buyer could be found. They will no be reopening in any capacity - all 300+ jobs gone.

    That's awful, whenever I went on a day-trip to Galway I always stopped for an hour or two at HMV. Apart from CDs,DVDs and games they also had music books, t-shirts, magazines, mugs even coasters! Last bought The Beatles "Revolver" album there a couple of weeks before it closed. I will definitely miss HMV


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    #39
    spiralism
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    Jijsaw wrote: »
    That's awful, whenever I went on a day-trip to Galway I always stopped for an hour or two at HMV. Apart from CDs,DVDs and games they also had music books, t-shirts, magazines, mugs even coasters! Last bought The Beatles "Revolver" album there a couple of weeks before it closed. I will definitely miss HMV

    Absolutely sickened. I live in the city centre, any time i went for a walk down shop street i ended up taking a look.

    Not only that but the unreal HMV shop in Dundrum is gone now too, that shop had everything...damn :(


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    #40
    Coburger
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    spiralism wrote: »
    Absolutely sickened. I live in the city centre, any time i went for a walk down shop street i ended up taking a look.

    Not only that but the unreal HMV shop in Dundrum is gone now too, that shop had everything...damn :(

    There was actually a better music shop in the shopping centre in Dundrum before HMV but can't see it making a return.


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    #41
    Riddle101
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    They should at least have a clearing out sale. What are they going to do with all those music albums, video games and dvds they have in storage?


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    #42
    NinjaTruncs
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    I would imagine they will be sent over to the UK. Same as with Game

    4.3kWp South facing PV System. South Dublin



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    #43
    Max Power1
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    Riddle101 wrote: »
    They should at least have a clearing out sale. What are they going to do with all those music albums, video games and dvds they have in storage?

    Back to the suppliers - hmv dont own the stock


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    #44
    Motley Crue
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    There was a HMV near me (in a place called South Shields) that's closing. It's a small HMV and has been there for years but I've always thought it looked slightly out of place among the other shops on the High Street. Anyway, I went in last week for what their calling a 'Blue Cross Sale' - which I assume Debenhams never copyrighted -and I was astonished to see that the price reductions covered virtually every item in the store. Now, in fairness, it's not exactly giving the stuff away but they are marking stuff down considerably and if they'd done this before Christmas the shelves would have been a little less empty.

    I feel for the staff in that store, having to hand label every single DVD case, knowing that their jobs might be sacrificed, and that they might not get employment in one of the bigger stores in the area - even if that is an option for them


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    #45
    Rob Humanoid
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    Can't say that I'm sorry to see it go at all. I feel sorry for the staff of course, but I couldn't care less about the corporate wing of HMV.

    I get, missing the whole the Saturday vibe, and it being a place to hang out, as I grew up in the 80's. But I would always get my music elsewhere. HMV and their ilk were always over priced as too. They've been ripping the public off for years imo.

    At least at the sound cellar, Tommy would always let you hear CDs (records) before you'd make a purchase. Also, he'd get stuff in for you if you ordered it. Good luck trying to get fart out of HMV/Tower/Virgin.

    The Punk in me is delighted to see these places crumble...


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    #46
    Lithium93_
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    It sucks that HMV has shut down in Ireland, i spent a lot of time there browsing rock & metal cd's after college or on weekends when i had money


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    #47
    Say Your Number
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    Amazon are taking the piss with their prices since HMV went, they are now charging 19/20 euro for new cds, before they were always 13/14. Had to wait till after the release date and order stuff on Marketplace to get it at a reasonable price.


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    #48
    Links234
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    Everywhere is taking the piss with the prices now, I got the Dark Knight Rises bluray in HMV for 18 euro, while it was 20 in tesco. now I've seen tesco looking for 22 for it.


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    #49
    jack presley
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    Links234 wrote: »
    Everywhere is taking the piss with the prices now, I got the Dark Knight Rises bluray in HMV for 18 euro, while it was 20 in tesco. now I've seen tesco looking for 22 for it.
    Definitely. Iron Maiden's Maiden England DVD is €34 in Tower Records and €29 in Sound Cellar. Amazon have it for £12.50 (about €18 when you add in postage). I know we're not comparing like with like regarding cost base etc. and SS is a small independent store but surely that much of a price difference is taking the piss a bit?


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    #50
    Links234
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Definitely. Iron Maiden's Maiden England DVD is €34 in Tower Records and €29 in Sound Cellar. Amazon have it for £12.50 (about €18 when you add in postage). I know we're not comparing like with like regarding cost base etc. and SS is a small independent store but surely that much of a price difference is taking the piss a bit?

    I wouldn't criticise Sound Cellar that much, normally they're pretty good, and they're usually fairly flexible on the price if you're buying a couple of things. but they can indeed take the piss sometimes, and if you think about it they've got a bigger corner on the market now without the competition


    One good thing is that HMV is still operating in Japan, as they were bought out by Lawson's. I actually freaked because I always ordered all my Japanese imports from hmv.co.jp but I was so happy to see they were still going then disappointed because I had still some points on my account that expired which would've got me some money off.

    so yeah, I'm still buying my music in HMV, only my money is all going to Japan :D


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