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Why do people hate Jews?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭ITS_A_BADGER


    why cant we all just get along


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    It's not hatred against Jews as a religion, it's all about Israel as a political state, imo.

    Nobody will deny the genocide under Hitler, but too many innocent lives are lost in Palestine as well...maybe on both sides, but still, Israel is involved in a genocide :(

    What I don't understand is the disproportionate blame placed on Israel as opposed to much, much worse countries. If it had been Israelis rather than Algerians who murdered those hostages lately, I can assure you that they would have had their embassy burnt to the ground in just about every country and been vilified in the press.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Andy!! wrote: »
    And no they don't deserve any such thing. It prevents people for questioning their actions when they start acting up. Like nowadays.
    What is that supposed to mean?? Whose actions? Who is "acting up"?

    Answer to original post perfectly illustrated in above quote. People have hated Jews over the centuries based on irrational, ill-informed generalisations and deliberate misinformation.
    Antisemitism does get bandied about, but so does the ever-tedious Jews = Israelis misnomer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,625 ✭✭✭Sofaspud


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    It's not hatred against Jews as a religion, it's all about Israel as a political state, imo.

    Nobody will deny the genocide under Hitler, but too many innocent lives are lost in Palestine as well...maybe on both sides, but still, Israel is involved in a genocide :(

    People have jokingly (and light-heartedly) called me a Jew for years, because I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness.
    I've come across 2 people that looked shocked when they thought I was Jewish, and expressed disgust. When I asked what their problem would be if I was Jewish, the answer both times was along the lines of "I just don't like them. They're sneaky."
    Idiocy of the highest level, like if someone said "I don't like christians, they're all incredibly vain, and have very poor dining etiquette."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    Manach wrote: »
    They (the haters) have no heard that polite society hate the Catholics now.
    I (the me) have the hates for what have heard called terrible syntax and grammer bad.
    This makes the me grammer nazi and the nazis hates the jew. Coolness.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Sofaspud wrote: »
    People have jokingly (and light-heartedly) called me a Jew for years, because I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness.
    I've come across 2 people that looked shocked when they thought I was Jewish, and expressed disgust. When I asked what their problem would be if I was Jewish, the answer both times was along the lines of "I just don't like them. They're sneaky."
    Idiocy of the highest level, like if someone said "I don't like christians, they're all incredibly vain, and have very poor dining etiquette."

    I think, there we have the cause of many of those problems...xenophobia. Whatever or Whoever is different from me, is potentially bad and evil :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Siuin wrote: »
    What I don't understand is the disproportionate blame placed on Israel as opposed to much, much worse countries. If it had been Israelis rather than Algerians who murdered those hostages lately, I can assure you that they would have had their embassy burnt to the ground in just about every country and been vilified in the press.

    Well Israel like to bleat on about how they are one of the most democratic and progressive nations on Earth.. they have lobbyists placed very highly in political circles around the world.

    People are under no illusion about how fecked up other places are. The likes of Algeria don't claim to be bastions of humanity though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    Hitler, the people who made them build the pyramids, the conspiracy theory forum ect. ect.

    Why all the hate towards them, why not hate the Croatians? :confused:

    Wow the whole conspiracy forum. I post over there and would never have guessed. Thanks for the heads up. I always thought it was Zionists that got a hard time, now I know Jew = Zionist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,661 ✭✭✭Fuhrer


    Yugioh wrote: »
    How are people even debating the existence of Jesus? :confused: It is pretty much guaranteed fact that he did exist; it's just all that other stuff that people can quite rightly be sceptical about.



    Its not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Well Israel like to bleat on about how they are one of the most democratic and progressive nations on Earth.. they have lobbyists placed very highly in political circles around the world.

    People are under no illusion about how fecked up other places are. The likes of Algeria don't claim to be bastions of humanity though.

    I'm under no illusions about Israel being perfect, but I really dislike the double standards placed on the country. Compared to the rest of the Middle East, they really are progressive when it comes to gay and women's rights and in how they treat their minorities. There's plenty room for improvement, but I really don't feel that they're as demonic as people claim they are. I find this most frustrating when people vilify me for wanting to emigrate there- at a time when Irish people are moving to Australia (originally filled with Aborigines) and the US (where there were Native Americans) enmasse


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 865 ✭✭✭MajorMax


    I don't hate Jews and have never understood the hatred against them. I hate Alan Shatter because he's a muppet not because he's a Christkiller

    We should all be more tolerant and accepting for other peoples beliefs and religions.

    except Protestants, it's probably OK to hate them, they deserve it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    Siuin wrote: »
    I'm under no illusions about Israel being perfect, but I really dislike the double standards placed on the country. Compared to the rest of the Middle East, they really are progressive when it comes to gay and women's rights and in how they treat their minorities. There's plenty room for improvement, but I really don't feel that they're as demonic as people claim they are. I find this most frustrating when people vilify me for wanting to emigrate there- at a time when Irish people are moving to Australia (originally filled with Aborigines) and the US (where there were Native Americans) enmasse

    At least one more example for a genocide there, you got a good point, imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,950 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    MajorMax wrote: »
    I don't hate Jews and have never understood the hatred against them. I hate Alan Shatter because he's a muppet not because he's a Christkiller

    We should all be more tolerant and accepting for other peoples beliefs and religions.

    except Protestants, it's probably OK to hate them, they deserve it

    and the Dutch.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Its not

    Entschuldigen Sie mich mein Führer, Sie nicht richtig. Jesus wird in den arsch treten.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    Stamford Hill.



    That is all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,162 ✭✭✭Augmerson


    Did we really go 5 pages of this without a Walter Sobchak quote?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    The persecution of Jews in the middle ages in western and central Europe resulted in Jews being forced east, mainly to Poland, where, hundreds of years later, they found themselves corralled at the mercy of the final solution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    MajorMax wrote: »
    I don't hate Jews and have never understood the hatred against them. I hate Alan Shatter because he's a muppet not because he's a Christkiller
    Yeah, my dad hates Alan Shatter too, but only because he's cutting jobs.
    I met him once. Really dodgy dye job...!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,185 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Siuin wrote: »
    I'm under no illusions about Israel being perfect, but I really dislike the double standards placed on the country. Compared to the rest of the Middle East, they really are progressive when it comes to gay and women's rights and in how they treat their minorities. There's plenty room for improvement, but I really don't feel that they're as demonic as people claim they are. I find this most frustrating when people vilify me for wanting to emigrate there- at a time when Irish people are moving to Australia (originally filled with Aborigines) and the US (where there were Native Americans) enmasse

    Well anyone that would vilify you just for wanting to live there is an idiot. Do you simply want to live there though or is it something deeper than that? Without wanting to make it personal; are you the girl that done a newspaper write-up a few years ago about how the IDF are a great bunch of people that can do no wrong?

    I'm too hungover to get into a long winded circular argument about the whole thing but I wish people would differentiate between others criticisng Israeli policy and generally belittling its population.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,608 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Andy!! wrote: »
    Well that completely excuses the death toll the jews have caused in the last 50 years!! Colour me mistaken!

    As opposed to wars Christian have caused in last 50 years?.. Vietnam, Iraq (I & II), Afghanistan, Falklands, Northern Ireland, Balkans etc?.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Well anyone that would vilify you just for wanting to live there is an idiot. Do you simply want to live there though or is it something deeper than that? Without wanting to make it personal; are you the girl that done a newspaper write-up a few years about how the IDF are a great bunch of people that can do no wrong?

    I'm too hungover to get into a long winded circular argument about the whole thing but I wish people would differentiate between others criticisng Israeli policy and generally belittling its population.

    I'm too old to join the IDF, but the fact is that any kids I will have most certainly will, and I have no objection to that. Does that make me a bad person? Hardly. It just means I want there to be people out there looking out for the welbeing of me and my family. I want to leave Ireland because of the issues with people like Andy!! who unfortunately is not in a minority.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,443 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Joshua J wrote: »
    Wow the whole conspiracy forum. I post over there and would never have guessed. Thanks for the heads up. I always thought it was Zionists that got a hard time, now I know Jew = Zionist.

    To be fair to the OP some of the blatant hatred that seems par for the course in the conspiracy theories forum would not be tolerated anywhere else on Boards and rightly so. There's one particular poster who drips anti-Semitism with almost every post. I won't name him as I'm sure you know who I mean.
    Siuin wrote: »
    I'm too old to join the IDF, but the fact is that any kids I will have most certainly will, and I have no objection to that. Does that make me a bad person? Hardly. It just means I want there to be people out there looking out for the welbeing of me and my family. I want to leave Ireland because of the issues with people like Andy!! who unfortunately is not in a minority.

    Judging by this thread he is in a minority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,684 ✭✭✭JustinDee


    Andy!! wrote: »
    Well that completely excuses the death toll the jews have caused in the last 50 years!! Colour me mistaken!
    Ok then. You are hereby the darkest murkiest shade of mistaken that usually looms upon a subject like this.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    Collie D wrote: »
    Judging by this thread he is in a minority.

    It's not often I meet people as blatantly antisemitic as Andy!!, but there certainly are a lot of people who endorse negative stereotypes and make life in general difficult.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,659 ✭✭✭Siuin


    So the majority of Irish people are anti-Semites then? What are you basing that on?

    I wouldn't say the majority are antisemites, however I would say that I have personally met quite a lot of Irish people who do buy into the negative stereotypes around Jews


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,305 ✭✭✭Joshua J


    Collie D wrote: »
    To be fair to the OP some of the blatant hatred that seems par for the course in the conspiracy theories forum would not be tolerated anywhere else on Boards and rightly so. There's one particular poster who drips anti-Semitism with almost every post. I won't name him as I'm sure you know who I mean.

    WTF are you talking about?. Care to link me to this "blatant hatred".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭alphabeat




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Why all the hate towards them,

    Often they were the only minority in many countries. Plus they got the blame for the whole jesus thing, and there was the exploitation when christians were banned from usury.
    Andy!! wrote: »
    Jokes need to be funny or (........)happens.

    People often persecuted catholics, protestants and women as well. Somehow you don't make the same leap of "logic" as regards them.

    I'm amazed that with that level of classic Jew-bashing crap, I haven't noticed you before. You must be some form of stealth anti-semite.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Fuhrer wrote: »
    Its not

    Actually, he did exist. Sorry to burst your atheist bubble.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭GetInTheHole!


    Siuin wrote: »
    I'm under no illusions about Israel being perfect, but I really dislike the double standards placed on the country. Compared to the rest of the Middle East, they really are progressive when it comes to gay and women's rights and in how they treat their minorities. There's plenty room for improvement, but I really don't feel that they're as demonic as people claim they are. I find this most frustrating when people vilify me for wanting to emigrate there- at a time when Irish people are moving to Australia (originally filled with Aborigines) and the US (where there were Native Americans) enmasse


    And that difference is because why?


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