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Thunderstorm, convective watch, Winter/Spring 2013

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Slight risk of some isolated thundery activity this after noon in the West and SW. Clear spells will be needed to get good surface heating going, which will be the trigger. Deep layer she is pretty non existent so storms will be sporadic in nature. Low level shear is decent the further north with some 10-12m/s shear @ 0-1km in the NW . This COULD help create some funnels about if tops get high enough . Cape is quite low and again depends on some clear spells so lightning amounts would be low.

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    Enjoy


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Hi Ian,

    Do you have any forecasts for lower layer shear or lapse rates between various atmospheric layers for this part of the world for Monday? I can't see any forecast for this yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Redsunset


    Keep an eye then on forecast soundings for Dublin Airport.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Yes, that's what I'm looking for. Where can I get these forecasts?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 20,362 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    http://andvari.vedur.is/athuganir/eldingar/i_dag_na.html

    A little action in the south of the country


  • Registered Users Posts: 365 ✭✭Mat the trasher


    Due tomorrow :eek:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,235 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    For those wondering like me, this storm is approaching New Caledonia which is about 1200 km east of Australia in the Pacific Ocean.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    ECM pushes the low good amount further south compared to others, so more potential to drag in proper cold air.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    If it were January this place would be in melt down!

    ECM1-144.GIF?12-0


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Lads whats these posts doing in the Thunderstorm thread? lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I saw the first line and thought it was the model thread. There doesn't appear to be a model thread.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    Nice to see inland convection starting with that stronger sun


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    On the M50 at 515 i took this .Which led to lots of hail.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Ah i didnt get hail from that myself in Finglas , but yeah , was nice to see the return of some convective action! :D


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Had a very heavy hail shower here around 1745. Left the place coated white. Hail was still here, in little drifts, for 2 hours after the shower had passed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Slight Chance of some isolated sferic activity today with slight CAPE , good lapse rates and low level cold pool . Shear is bad so showers wont organise well. So main interest would be some hail showers and some nice cloudscapes about . :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Nice hail cell NE of Longford town, anyone have a view of it? :)

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Bejubby


    Heuston we have hailstones!!
    Still waiting on the thunder though,surely get 1 or 2 bangs:pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Same here was sleety hail


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭Bejubby


    Mtc referred to hail of 1-2cm diameter possible,imagine the damage if your out walking with nowhere to hide!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,855 ✭✭✭Nabber


    We had quite large hailstones on Wednesday in the Ballymount, Dublin 12. Not massive, but big enough none the less.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,987 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Can see the start of a small anvil/Cb to my north now - must be from shower I can see on radar on the Dublin/Meath/Kildare border (Clonee area).


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,196 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Great skies in Naas atm


  • Registered Users Posts: 477 ✭✭blackbird99


    taken about 1 pm today
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  • Registered Users Posts: 845 ✭✭✭tylercollins


    A few image I took today. Have a few more from a different cell, but haven't resized them yet and it's time for the gym ;)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Slightly better risk for the North 2moro with some better Cape this time round.


    S England looking good for a chance of funnels as they have some decent cape , and both deep layer and low level shear for a few hours to play with.
    showforecast.cgi?lightningmap=yes&fcstfile=2013031706_201303152150_1_stormforecast.xml


    Storm Forecast
    Valid: Sat 16 Mar 2013 06:00 to Sun 17 Mar 2013 06:00 UTC
    Issued: Fri 15 Mar 2013 21:50
    Forecaster: TUSCHY
    A level 1 was issued for SW UK mainly for an isolated large hail and tornado risk.

    SYNOPSIS

    A deep channel of low geopotential heights remains anchored over Europe. A cold air mass is in place over most of Europe with bitterly cold conditions ongoing over E/SE Europe. A pronounced vortex enters the scene from the west and becomes quasi-stationary over Ireland, UK and Scotland. A slightly warmer and increasingly more humid air mass starts to affect parts of Portugal and Spain and another pronounced air mass boundary sets-up over N-Portugal/Spain.

    DISCUSSION



    ... France and parts of the UK ...

    Seasonably moist post frontal cold sector air mass beneath modest mid-level lapse rates may result in a few short-lived thunderstorm events. The main foci for CI will be those regions, where postfrontal air mass (with cellular convection) advects onshore during peak daytime heating (e.g. NW France and SW UK). Those spots will see some SBCAPE build-up. DLS remains weak over most areas and therefore only gusty winds and marginal hail/sleet is forecast.

    An exception will be SW-UK, where a low-end severe risk may materialize. The placement of a near vertically stacked low just to the south of Ireland during the afternoon hours assists in good onshore moisture advection beneath an ongoing diffluent mid/upper-level flow regime. A lot depends on how strong the lower part of that vortex will be regarding the magnitude of backing of the LL wind field. Still, with 15 m/s DLS and enough time for diabatic heating forecast, a few strong thunderstorms may evolve during a short time-frame between noon and sunset. Forecast soundings show good speed shear with improving directional shear next to 300-500 J/kg SBCAPE, so storms will be capable of producing isolated large hail. Some SRH-1, low LCLs and LL CAPE in excess of 100 J/kg may also result in a very isolated tornado event. The risk rapidly diminishes after sunset.

    During the overnight hours, the eastward moving cold front interacts with a prefrontal moisture surge from the W-Mediterranean (advected moisture becomes more elevated atop the stable nocturnal BL). At the same time, mid-levels cool down a bit which only increases mid-level lapse rates atop the surface cold front, so I would not be surprised to see the initiation of a few elevated thunderstorms along the eastward moving cold front. However, this front becomes masked betimes with washed out temperature gradients and a near parallel alignement to the background flow. Hence, only a sporadic thunderstorm risk may occur.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭patneve2


    Nice cloud formations about :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,789 ✭✭✭BEASTERLY


    Just captured a funnel. Was a good few miles away and only had my 18-50mm lens. Ill crop the photo as its still visible in it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭lolie


    Few nice specs showing now on the radar in Tyrone/Armagh


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