How will you choose between MS & Sony's new consoles?

Grumpypants

grizzly wrote: »

Just in case you missed this in the other thread...

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Awesome awesome awesome ! finally this might put those annoying idiot hackers
hackers from ruining every online game out there.

Pushtrak

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The same result could be achieved by stopping them from playing online, but allowing offline games.

FlyingIrishMan

Grumpypants wrote: »

Awesome awesome awesome ! finally this might put those annoying idiot hackers
hackers from ruining every online game out there.

And what about people who are wrongly banned?

K.O.Kiki

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

And what about people who are wrongly banned?

Oh, I'm sure that NEVER happens... :rolleyes::pac:

nesf

Pushtrak wrote: »

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The same result could be achieved by stopping them from playing online, but allowing offline games.

That's effectively what Steam does. You only lose access to VAC servers which are Valve administered. Other than that you can play away.

To get a full account ban you have to do something like credit card fraud or similar. I really don't see the point in full account bans for things like cheating in COD multiplayer or whatever. Especially considering accounts can be shared, especially between parents and kids.

MadYaker

Id say the amount of people wrongly banned is tiny, and if you were wrongly banned surely it wouldn't be that hard to reverse the ban.

NTMK

MadYaker wrote: »

Id say the amount of people wrongly banned is tiny, and if you were wrongly banned surely it wouldn't be that hard to reverse the ban.

a ban is final unless theres a glitch in the system and they notice

nesf

MadYaker wrote: »

Id say the amount of people wrongly banned is tiny, and if you were wrongly banned surely it wouldn't be that hard to reverse the ban.

You'd be surprised. There are two issues. One is errors happen and you can get mass wrongful bannings, see WoW etc for examples. This isn't an enormous issue as people normally get their account back and some small compensation. The other problem is while false positives tend to be a small issue, the number of people contesting their bans will nearly always be very high. So you, who has been wrongly banned, is trying to get heard in a sea of muppets who are just chancing their arm making it quite possible that you can get nowhere with your appeal.

marco_polo

MadYaker wrote: »

It would make a nice door stopper.

Although the PS4 would even be better at that too for size reasons

Professional Griefer

grizzly wrote: »

Just in case you missed this in the other thread...

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FlyingIrishMan

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Just them backtracking. How does it relate to the 360 at all? There is no online check, and you don't lose your games when banned on 360.

Grayditch

At first I thought, good enough for people who are banned, but maybe taking offline ability and their games off them seems harsh.

AlmightyCushion

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

Just them backtracking. How does it relate to the 360 at all? There is no online check, and you don't lose your games when banned on 360.

They could be talking about digital download copies. Sure, there's no online check for 360 but it could still be true. No idea as I don't have an xbox.

FlyingIrishMan

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

They could be talking about digital download copies. Sure, there's no online check for 360 but it could still be true. No idea as I don't have an xbox.

I've never been banned but I think you can still access your digital games whilst banned.
The reason it'd be different is because you wouldn't be able to log into your account to verify it.

AlmightyCushion

FlyingIrishMan wrote: »

I've never been banned but I think you can still access your digital games whilst banned.
The reason it'd be different is because you wouldn't be able to log into your account to verify it.

You'd still be able to log in as the account is still valid. It'd be really **** if an xbox ban meant you were also locked out of your phone, laptop, tablet, email, Skype etc.

COYVB

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

You'd still be able to log in as the account is still valid. It'd be really **** if an xbox ban meant you were also locked out of your phone, laptop, tablet, email, Skype etc.

You wouldn't be able to log in, as the account would be banned as per the MS comment

toastedpickles

Only seen this thread now,
Here's how I'm going to decide
Hi I'd like to buy a PS4 please, Sure!, Thank you!
Now to spend my extra hundred or so to get other things

It's pretty obvious if you ask me

AlmightyCushion

COYVB wrote: »

You wouldn't be able to log in, as the account would be banned as per the MS comment

They could still allow the account to log in for verification purposes for games but just block messenging and multiplayer.

COYVB

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

They could still allow the account to log in for verification purposes for games but just block messenging and multiplayer.

Which they've said they're not going to do

AlmightyCushion

COYVB wrote: »

Which they've said they're not going to do

They also said it was a mistake and they had no info about it at the moment.

C14N

Magill wrote: »

I dunno, guess they just need money to maintain/update the service, they're pretty good deals either way, at least on PS since you get PS+ with its free monthly games etc. Not sure if MS offered a similar setup, i think they might have.

MS have followed Sony's lead of giving free games but it wasn't well received. The two games they decided to brag about getting for the next year were Assassins Creed 2 and Halo 3 (both of which can be found very cheaply at this stage and which will serve more as an advertisement for newer entries in each franchise).

MadYaker wrote: »

Id say the amount of people wrongly banned is tiny, and if you were wrongly banned surely it wouldn't be that hard to reverse the ban.

I'm sure it's a very small number as a proportion of online users but whenever I've heard of it happening (and not just with MS) it sounds like it's been a real pain in the arse trying to get it reversed.

COYVB

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

They also said it was a mistake and they had no info about it at the moment.

They're doing that a lot lately aren't they lol

COYVB

C14N wrote: »

I'm sure it's a very small number as a proportion of online users but whenever I've heard of it happening (and not just with MS) it sounds like it's been a real pain in the arse trying to get it reversed.

Remember when they mistakenly banned people because of an issue with a CoD map pack a while back. Imagine that happening with Xbox One... that'd be a disaster

K.O.Kiki

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130614/OFFDUTY02/306140030/New-Xbox-sin-against-all-service-members-

“Microsoft has single handedly alienated the entire military. And not just the U.S. military — the militaries of the entire world,” says naval aviator Jay Johnson.

ShadowHearth

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130614/OFFDUTY02/306140030/New-Xbox-sin-against-all-service-members-

Why cant they just use a superior product? Ps4 maybe?

Grayditch

Because 'Muurka.

shadowcomplex

Ha ha

http://youtu.be/kWSIFh8ICaA

Courtesy Flush

TBH if someone is a pure gamer I dont see why they wouldnt go for PC rather than a console

Grayditch

Hmmm. Interesting thought. I'm surprised it hasn't been discussed on this thread yet.

Pushtrak

Courtesy Flush wrote: »

TBH if someone is a pure gamer I dont see why they wouldnt go for PC rather than a console

What is a pure gamer? And why would a PC make one whatever it is and not consoles?