Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

WoollyRedHat

We need to beat Newcastle convincly on Sunday, then we will have done all that we can, and hope Everton get something against Chelsea, just need a draw and 2 goal plus to get third. First and foremost, win against Newcastle, anything else a bonus.

tony1kenobi

emergingstar wrote: »

We will get 3rd come Sunday

Yep.

emergingstar

iMuse wrote: »

Ill take 4th

Chelsea to draw
We will win 3-1

No problem

gnfnrhead

For fourth place:
Arsenal win, spurs win: we finish fourth.
Arsenal draw, spurs win: spurs finish fourth.
Arsenal draw, spurs draw: we finish fourth.
Arsenal lose, spurs win: spurs finish fourth.
Arsenal lose, spurs draw: we finish fourth via GD.

Anything less than a win for spurs and we finish fourth, regardless of our result.

As for third:
Arsenal win, Chelsea draw: Goal difference, currently one goal less than Chelsea.
Arsenal win, Chelsea lose: we finish third.

They are the only two options for us to finish in third.

Ideal results:
Arsenal win by a few,
spurs and Chelsea drop points, doesnt matter how.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

emergingstar wrote: »

We will get 3rd come Sunday

If we win and Everton win we get it.

If we win by 2 or more and Chelsea draw we also get it.

Anything else you get the idea.

keano_afc

So....does Giroud come back into the team?

WoollyRedHat

No reason why the team shouldn't be able to go out, win and improve GD in their favour. They need to give it their all again on Sunday. Same team, Podolski really stepped up at the end, and Ramsey, well the lad doesn't stopt trying does he.

TheGunns

keano_afc wrote: »

So....does Giroud come back into the team?

For me, yes. Podolski might have scored twice but did jack else. Giroud gives us something we miss/need.

We've essentially played without a center forward for 3 games

enfant terrible

gnfnrhead wrote: »

As for third:
Arsenal win, Chelsea draw: Goal difference, currently one goal less than Chelsea.
Arsenal win, Chelsea lose: we finish third.

Spurs can finish third too

bad2dabone

keano_afc wrote: »

So....does Giroud come back into the team?

he has to come back in. We've missed him big time, I love poldi but he's not as hard workin as ollie and if ollie is a bit rusty or tired poldi can come in and do something.

emergingstar

Giroud to start on Sunday

Great result. At 1-1 i was 'oh here we go' but the more open the game got it really suited us. Walcott was excellent. Has really arrived this season. I do feel bad for Wigan as they are a great club and will come up again and give all of us football people more memories please god. Hope we can now nail St Totteringham's day for 2013

HazDanz

enfant terrible wrote: »

Spurs can finish third too

Technically yes. Realistically never.

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

Giroud to start on Sunday

Id keep with the same side who are full of confidence and use him off the bench tbh.

emergingstar

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Id keep with the same side who are full of confidence and use him off the bench tbh.

Don't like pod through the middle yet he don't offer us enough

Quazzie

emergingstar wrote: »

Don't like pod through the middle yet he don't offer us enough

If he scores twice every game I'll forgive him. The stupid statements regarding Podolski not offering enough (not just from you) are laughable after a game which he scored twice.

Some people are never happy :rolleyes:

emergingstar

emergingstar wrote: »

Don't like pod through the middle yet he don't offer us enough

He might be better as a finisher as opposed to be expected to hold it up by make no mistake he is some finisher. Right place, Right time, right result. Decent return for his first season in England in my opinion

emergingstar

Quazzie wrote: »

If he scores twice every game I'll forgive him. The stupid statements regarding Podolski not offering enough (not just from you) are laughable after a game which he scored twice.

Some people are never happy :rolleyes:

Hard to criticise I no bit it was the same with Walcott earlier in the season
The goals were covering up how shït there actually playing
All I mean is of pod don't score on Sunday were basically playing with ten men

Quazzie

Quazzie wrote: »

If he scores twice every game I'll forgive him. The stupid statements regarding Podolski not offering enough (not just from you) are laughable after a game which he scored twice.

Some people are never happy :rolleyes:

The goals had an element of good fortune about them so i can see why the poster may not be in a rush to view Pod as the solution to all our problems, but he is a great finisher

greendom

Arteta a major doubt for Sunday - that's a blow - Coquelin has been nowhere near the first team for a while so who to play? Maybe bring Wilshere in and have him Ramsey and Rosicky sharing his duties. Or bring in Vermaelen to sit in front of the defence ?

farna_boy

Would love to see:


Walcott ---- Ramsey --- Arteta ---- Cazorla

---

Giroud ---- Podolski

---

... at some stage, maybe not Sunday tho

HazDanz

Quazzie wrote: »

If he scores twice every game I'll forgive him. The stupid statements regarding Podolski not offering enough (not just from you) are laughable after a game which he scored twice.

Some people are never happy :rolleyes:

He's there to score and he did that. That's his job done. If he plays terrible on Sunday and returns with two goals in the bag no one will bat an eyelid for his overall performance.

TheGunns

Quazzie wrote: »

If he scores twice every game I'll forgive him. The stupid statements regarding Podolski not offering enough (not just from you) are laughable after a game which he scored twice.

Some people are never happy :rolleyes:

He might have scored twice but Giroud as a frontman is significantly better than Podolski in his all round play and the amount of crosses we put in. I wouldn't be against Podolski moving to the wing and putting Cazorla back in the centre with Ramsey and Rosicky.

Reports of Arteta pulling his calf and a major doubt for the weekend

Ed Winchester

farna_boy wrote: »

Would love to see:


Walcott ---- Ramsey --- Arteta ---- Cazorla

---

Giroud ---- Podolski

---

... at some stage, maybe not Sunday tho

No jack?

astonaidan

I only knew it was over when Ramsey scored, another famous death

emergingstar

Either bring in jack and move Ramsey back

Or bring in verm as DM

Not to worried if arteta is injured

wandatowell

Really really enjoyed the game tonight.

Kos is a pleasure to watch, and Santi looked ok too :P

Fuzzy_Dunlop

I'd just play jack. If he's got enough for the bench then he should be ok to start. I also think I'd prefer giroud up top, even though I'm a fan of Podolski

batistuta9

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Interesting stat relayed by the commentators during the match, last 13 games with central pairing of Kos and Mert gone unbeaten, or possible that was belonging of last season, anyone care to clarify?

i'm nearly sure he said arsenal have kept 13 clean sheets and mertesacker has played in all of those

batistuta9

gnfnrhead wrote: »

As for third:
Arsenal win, Chelsea draw: Goal difference, currently one goal less than Chelsea.
Arsenal win, Chelsea lose: we finish third.

They are the only two options for us to finish in third.

if chelsea draw 0-0 & arsenal win 2-1 they'll be a playoff for third

someone posted up the rules in the fantasy football forum there

gosplan

Giroud has had shocking away form all season.

Pod is a safer choice.

Drexel

I wouldnt have Pod up front on his own the weekend either. His hold up play isnt great at all.

Few people have said it already but I would love to give TV a go shielding the defense. Prob not the time for experimenting on Sunday but might be worth a look for next season. Will prob be the reason we dont buy someone! :pac:

gnfnrhead

batistuta9 wrote: »

if chelsea draw 0-0 & arsenal win 2-1 they'll be a playoff for third

someone posted up the rules in the fantasy football forum there

Didnt even realise how close they were for goals scored and conceded. When's the last time that happened?

enfant terrible wrote: »

Spurs can finish third too

Need about 15 goals for that to happen

Thank **** for that. I was relying on text updates from someone not very good at texting, it was quite nerve-wracking to say the least.

tayto lover

Please please please lads.
Focus for the entire game at Newcastle.
They will not roll over as some think.
They have their pride and will really put it up to us.
100% effort from all, please.

batistuta9

gnfnrhead wrote: »

Didnt even realise how close they were for goals scored and conceded. When's the last time that happened?

couldn't tell you when it happened last

yeah, them extra few tonight could be important. everton have the most draws in the league too, 15.
1-1 in that game & arsenal win 3-2 would see it happen as well

any draw in that game even & arsenal winning by a goal would see it happen, from above the starting results just go up by 1
e.g
0-0 & 2-1
1-1 & 3-2
2-2 & 4-3
etc.

couldn't see it happening past the 1-1 though

this is what was posted in the other thread, if anyone wants a look at it, assuming it legit don't know for sure though

C.7. Subject to Rule C.14, if any 2 or more Clubs have scored the same number of
points, have the same goal difference and have scored the same number of goals
in League Matches in that Season they shall be deemed to occupy the same
position in the table.
B.24

C.14. If at the end of the Season either the League Champions or the Clubs to be relegated
or the question of qualification for other competitions cannot be determined
because 2 or more Clubs are equal on points, goal difference and goals scored, the
Clubs concerned shall play off one or more deciding League Matches on neutral
grounds, the format, timing and venue of which shall be determined by the Board.B.31

farna_boy

Ed Winchester wrote: »

No jack?

Not if he is in anyway injured. Plus when both him and Cazorla are playing together they don't seem to gel well (although if Cazorla is out on the left it may be ok).

gnfnrhead

Going to be much harder this year. van Persie walked it last season, think Song was runner up. Cant remember who came third, might have been Koscielny.

Anyway, the boards.ie Arsenal Player of the Year for 2012/13: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/KLW93PM

batistuta9

went for Cazorla

he'll win the one on the clubs site too i think

Meanwhile in North Korea, a certain leader has just been informed of Ramseys rocket

gnfnrhead

Looking at the free agents this summer, and Honda is one of them. Havent seen much of him lately but I used to be impressed by him. Has he developed much, or gone backwards, does anyone know?

Yossi has been mentioned before. Toure (Kolo, not Yaya) is another. Wouldnt be the worst as back up. Only 32 so he has a few years in him.

batistuta9

no benayoun's or no kolo toure's

the club is hopefully supposed to be getting rid of players sitting around offering nothing
the last thing we need is to be signing ready made replacements of them

batistuta9

batistuta9 wrote: »

no benayoun's or no kolo toure's

the club is hopefully supposed to be getting rid of players sitting around offering nothing
the last thing we need is to be signing ready made replacements of them

In fairness Benny gave absolutely everything for the shirt last season. Might be too late in the day to bring him in now but his contribution to us getting third last year must be acknowledged. He ran his guts out for the club so its unfair to suggest he offered nothing although it is fair to say at his age he would be fairly marginalised

jester77

LOL, here's a Spurs fan that must be hurting this morning. Lost $22,000 on Wigan :eek:

efb

Didn't back them to win outright though. Losing 1-0 he'd have won, and spurs would be no better off

ronjo

And I am pretty sure its not 22,000 US Dollars

batistuta9

Deleted User wrote: »

In fairness Benny gave absolutely everything for the shirt last season. Might be too late in the day to bring him in now but his contribution to us getting third last year must be acknowledged. He ran his guts out for the club so its unfair to suggest he offered nothing although it is fair to say at his age he would be fairly marginalised

so should Martin Fulop's but i hope he's not brought in either

he's not going to offer anything useful now now though is what i'm saying, not when he played at the club.
he did OK whenever he played last season, fair enough.

but these type of roles, backups, should be filled by rosicky, arteta/ramsey, giroud, szczesny, etc.
& 2 of them are pushing on as it is.

Ideally any player signed would be to go straight into the team, pushing the rest down the pecking order.
they'll still get their fair share of games but if they want to be in the first 11/regular starter they'll need to step up - just like Koscielny has when he got the chance, though you can argue he shouldn't have been on the bench anyway but you get the idea

batistuta9

ronjo wrote: »

And I am pretty sure its not 22,000 US Dollars

what do you think it is?

2ndcoming

Judging by the time difference and the popularity of soccer there I'd guess Malaysia. If it was then it's still a 5500 euro bet.

Poss Australia either or Hawaii or Pacific Islands the other direction. There's a few different possibilities in fairness.

Checked it again, it would have been 15th May in the East so must be West, Hawaii or Pacific Islands it is. Good luck figuring that one out ha.

batistuta9

2ndcoming wrote: »

Judging by the time difference and the popularity of soccer there I'd guess Malaysia

Malaysia are GMT +

the match time says 10:45 that'd make it GMT -9

west coast america is GMT -8, pacific standard time

it'd fit alaska at GMT -9

unless i'm reading the slip wrong