Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

HazDanz

Mickeroo wrote: »

He should have been the new chairman!!:pac:

Adam's giving life advice is rich. The man needs to sit down and be a nice quite Arsenal legend.

Drexel

ronjo wrote: »

I am pretty sure you can buy cigarettes in Manchester

With all the fancy nightclubs around is what I was getting at. And I know they have them in Manchester too but London is the glitz and glamour capital!

Pepe have you a link or something to those financial figures?

Pepe LeFrits

jonny666 wrote: »

With all the fancy nightclubs around is what I was getting at. And I know they have them in Manchester too but London is the glitz and glamour capital!

Pepe have you a link or something to those financial figures?

Not collectively, but individually they're easy to find on google.

The breakdown is roughly:

2011/12 turnover: £235m
New Emirates deal (comes into effect summer 2013): £30m
New TV deal (comes into effect summer 2013): £30m (conservative estimate - the broadsheets have reported that the bottom team in the PL will gain an extra £24m next season while the champions will get nearly £40m)
New Puma deal (comes into effect summer 2014): £30-35m

Finally we've signed a bunch of smaller sponsorship deals with various different companies around the world - can't really be arsed tracking them down, but they've been mentioned on arsenal.com a couple of times. Also no idea how much they're worth.

I should mention that you need to subtract the value of the current Emirates deal (£6.8m) and the Nike deal (don't know), but the overall value will likely end up in the region of £320m.

Drexel

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Not collectively, but individually they're easy to find on google.

The breakdown is roughly:

2011/12 turnover: £235m
New Emirates deal (comes into effect summer 2013): £30m
New TV deal (comes into effect summer 2013): £30m (conservative estimate - the broadsheets have reported that the bottom team in the PL will gain an extra £24m next season while the champions will get nearly £40m)
New Puma deal (comes into effect summer 2014): £30-35m

Finally we've signed a bunch of smaller sponsorship deals with various different companies around the world - can't really be arsed tracking them down, but they've been mentioned on arsenal.com a couple of times. Also no idea how much they're worth.

I should mention that you need to subtract the value of the current Emirates deal (£6.8m) and the Nike deal (don't know), but the overall value will likely end up in the region of £320m.

Danke!

320million is a fair bit of cash. you say its close to UTDs turnover now. Thats pretty good considering our outgoings would be lower then UTD's (wages mainly).

If FFP is goina be a reality (which Im starting to think it will be with City not going mad and Chelsea getting cash up front in a recent deal) then we are really in a very strong position to challange. No excuses!!

DenMan

Already a senior international footballer at 17 years of age!

http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/mugabo-becomes-28th-arsenal-international-with-run-out-for-rwanda-senior-team/

thorbarry

Marty McFly wrote: »

Know your facts , the Gazidis quotes come from an Arsenal Q&A with the fans no reporters involved. Full transcripts and videos of which are available online if you look.

I do, Gazidis never even mentioned Rooney. Reporters made this part up.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2013/06/07/4031564/arsenal-can-afford-rooney-hints-gazidis

Where does he mention it?

premierstone

DenMan wrote: »

Already a senior international footballer at 17 years of age!

http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/mugabo-becomes-28th-arsenal-international-with-run-out-for-rwanda-senior-team/

Really have to feel for Arteta when you read that, any other country or any other generation in Spain and he would have a hatfull of Caps

Marty McFly

thorbarry wrote: »

I do, Gazidis never even mentioned Rooney. Reporters made this part up.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2013/06/07/4031564/arsenal-can-afford-rooney-hints-gazidis

Where does he mention it?

:pac::pac: your using goal.com as a source? I didn't even read that nothing on that site is worth reading. I followed the Q&A live on twitter.

What happened was he was asked directly by someone at the Arsenal Supporters Trust Q&A could we afford Rooney to which he replied of coarse we could and more than that, this was after Wenger's comments on Rooney.

Colonialboy

DenMan wrote: »

Already a senior international footballer at 17 years of age!

http://arsenalyouth.wordpress.com/2013/06/17/mugabo-becomes-28th-arsenal-international-with-run-out-for-rwanda-senior-team/

Strange Arsenal have no player in the England U20 World Cup Squad
Oh I forgot Arsene has a Gallic youth policy.
Keep your hats on girls, dont get your knickers in a twist.
Squad List

Nr.NameDate of BirthPositionClubsHeight1Samuel JOHNSTONE25/03/1993GKManchester United FC (ENG) 1932Gael BIGIRIMANA22/10/1993MFNewcastle United FC (ENG) 1733Daniel POTTS13/04/1994DFWest Ham United FC (ENG) 1724Jonathon FLANAGAN01/01/1993DFLiverpool FC (ENG) 1835Eric DIER15/01/1994DFSporting CP (POR) 1926Conor COADY25/02/1993MFLiverpool FC (ENG) 1847James WARD-PROWSE01/11/1994MFSouthampton FC (ENG) 1738Larnell COLE09/03/1993MFManchester United FC (ENG) 1729Harry KANE28/07/1993FWTottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 18310Christopher LONG25/02/1995FWEverton FC (ENG) 18011Adam REACH03/02/1993DFMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 17512George LONG05/11/1993GKSheffield United FC (ENG) 19313Connor RIPLEY13/02/1993GKMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 19114John STONES28/05/1994DFEverton FC (ENG) 18815Jamaal LASCELLES11/11/1993DFNottingham Forest FC (ENG) 18916Thomas THORPE13/01/1993DFManchester United FC (ENG) 18517Luke WILLIAMS11/06/1993FWMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 18518John LUNDSTRAM18/02/1994MFEverton FC (ENG) 18119Alex PRITCHARD03/05/1993MFTottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 17120Luke GARBUTT21/05/1993DFEverton FC (ENG) 18021Ross BARKLEY05/12/1993MFEverton FC (ENG) 186

AdamD

I'd care if the English youth teams weren't ****e

Marty McFly

Colonialboy wrote: »

Strange Arsenal have no player in the England U20 World Cup Squad
Oh I forgot Arsene has a Gallic youth policy.
Keep your hats on girls, dont get your knickers in a twist.
Squad List

Nr.NameDate of BirthPositionClubsHeight1Samuel JOHNSTONE25/03/1993GKManchester United FC (ENG) 1932Gael BIGIRIMANA22/10/1993MFNewcastle United FC (ENG) 1733Daniel POTTS13/04/1994DFWest Ham United FC (ENG) 1724Jonathon FLANAGAN01/01/1993DFLiverpool FC (ENG) 1835Eric DIER15/01/1994DFSporting CP (POR) 1926Conor COADY25/02/1993MFLiverpool FC (ENG) 1847James WARD-PROWSE01/11/1994MFSouthampton FC (ENG) 1738Larnell COLE09/03/1993MFManchester United FC (ENG) 1729Harry KANE28/07/1993FWTottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 18310Christopher LONG25/02/1995FWEverton FC (ENG) 18011Adam REACH03/02/1993DFMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 17512George LONG05/11/1993GKSheffield United FC (ENG) 19313Connor RIPLEY13/02/1993GKMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 19114John STONES28/05/1994DFEverton FC (ENG) 18815Jamaal LASCELLES11/11/1993DFNottingham Forest FC (ENG) 18916Thomas THORPE13/01/1993DFManchester United FC (ENG) 18517Luke WILLIAMS11/06/1993FWMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 18518John LUNDSTRAM18/02/1994MFEverton FC (ENG) 18119Alex PRITCHARD03/05/1993MFTottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 17120Luke GARBUTT21/05/1993DFEverton FC (ENG) 18021Ross BARKLEY05/12/1993MFEverton FC (ENG) 186

:pac: your posts never fail to amuse and bemuse in equal measure.

Chamberlain could play in that squad but sadly for him he is already a full international , also Jenkinson who chose not to play for England and Wilshere who is a full international would have just missed out on it.

Nevermind the likes of Gnabry or Eisfeld were the English would walk into that squad.

gosplan

Colonialboy wrote: »

Strange Arsenal have no player in the England U20 World Cup Squad
Oh I forgot Arsene has a Gallic youth policy.
Keep your hats on girls, dont get your knickers in a twist.
Squad List

Nr.NameDate of BirthPositionClubsHeight1Samuel JOHNSTONE25/03/1993GKManchester United FC (ENG) 1932Gael BIGIRIMANA22/10/1993MFNewcastle United FC (ENG) 1733Daniel POTTS13/04/1994DFWest Ham United FC (ENG) 1724Jonathon FLANAGAN01/01/1993DFLiverpool FC (ENG) 1835Eric DIER15/01/1994DFSporting CP (POR) 1926Conor COADY25/02/1993MFLiverpool FC (ENG) 1847James WARD-PROWSE01/11/1994MFSouthampton FC (ENG) 1738Larnell COLE09/03/1993MFManchester United FC (ENG) 1729Harry KANE28/07/1993FWTottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 18310Christopher LONG25/02/1995FWEverton FC (ENG) 18011Adam REACH03/02/1993DFMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 17512George LONG05/11/1993GKSheffield United FC (ENG) 19313Connor RIPLEY13/02/1993GKMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 19114John STONES28/05/1994DFEverton FC (ENG) 18815Jamaal LASCELLES11/11/1993DFNottingham Forest FC (ENG) 18916Thomas THORPE13/01/1993DFManchester United FC (ENG) 18517Luke WILLIAMS11/06/1993FWMiddlesbrough FC (ENG) 18518John LUNDSTRAM18/02/1994MFEverton FC (ENG) 18119Alex PRITCHARD03/05/1993MFTottenham Hotspur FC (ENG) 17120Luke GARBUTT21/05/1993DFEverton FC (ENG) 18021Ross BARKLEY05/12/1993MFEverton FC (ENG) 186

Yup. We should really try and model ourselves on Middlesboro.


Do you like the club btw? I get you probably support them, if you're not trolling, but is it like an abusive relationship for you?

jordainius

I know a troll when I see one... Not naming names, but a person who thinks Wenger didn't/wouldn't have signed any of the Invincibles (despite him signing 15 out of the 19 medal winners) cannot possibly be an Arsenal fan.... At the very most they are an Arsenal fan who knows absolutely nothing about the club....

Skylinehead

Marty McFly wrote: »

:pac: your posts never fail to amuse and bemuse in equal measure.

Chamberlain could play in that squad but sadly for him he is already a full international , also Jenkinson who chose not to play for England and Wilshere who is a full international would have just missed out on it.

Nevermind the likes of Gnabry or Eisfeld were the English would walk into that squad.

Jenkinson has an England cap. But again, can use the Chamberlain argument there.

gosplan

jordainius wrote: »

I know a troll when I see one... Not naming names, but a person who thinks Wenger didn't/wouldn't have signed any of the Invincibles (despite him signing 15 out of the 19 medal winners) cannot possibly be an Arsenal fan.... At the very most they are an Arsenal fan who knows absolutely nothing about the club....

Yeah but if you're going to create an account and troll like hell, then at least do something interesting. Be a racist traveller or a liberal nazi or something and wind people up like crazy. Don't waste your time taking random pops at an under performing football club.

greendom

I wonder whether these posts are something of a double bluff. They are so ridiculous that they make the Wenger out brigade seem idiotic

Marty McFly

Skylinehead wrote: »

Jenkinson has an England cap. But again, can use the Chamberlain argument there.

Oh right my bad was under the impression he had switched allegiance to Finland .

tayto lover

From reading some of the papers today there seems to be a concerted effort from some Arsenal directors to capture the signature of Wayne Rooney.

Rooney might be a good player but I don't think he would suit Arsenal and he might also be a bad influence. He drifts in and out of games and is liable to put in reckless tackles when things are not going his way. Very petulant. He is also likely to start a wage war and disrupt the dressing-room like Adabayor did.

Maybe i'm wrong but i'd prefer Higuan and Fellani before Rooney.

NoviGlitzko

As a United fan, I can't see Wenger issuing the wages that Rooney demands. It's no secret he has a love for the money. I think someone like Remy (with that case dropped) or someone else would be on his radar before considering Rooney.

greendom

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

As a United fan, I can't see Wenger issuing the wages that Rooney demands. It's no secret he has a love for the money. I think someone like Remy (with that case dropped) or someone else would be on his radar before considering Rooney.

It's still early days and I could well end up with egg on my face here but I get the impression that Remy would have been the type of player who AW would have bought over the last 6 - 7 years. Essentially because he's not too expensive to buy or to pay. It's seems that we have bulked up our finanical muscle now and can set our sights a little higher.

beer enigma

Devils advocate here but with the public statement from the board as to the war chest available - if we fail to sign major players where does that leave us / Wenger.

Higuain seems most certain but rumours of him included in a swap deal with Bale

Rooney, who knows ....if he plays behind Higuain then where does Giroud play

Fellaini.....who knows, someone gives way

It would be nice for once to have signings in place pre season rather than their first outing being the start of the prem season.

overpronator

I dont see us getting Rooney and Higuain for the simple reason that 25m was spent last year on Giroud and Podolski, if you combine another 50 odd for Higuain and Rooney, well those figures make no sense to me. It will be Higuain and hopefully Fellaini. I read this morning though that Chelsea are interested in Fellaini, what odds on that one being tied up nice and quickly by the end of next week.

Marty McFly

The story of Diaby's career

Abou DIABY ‏@AbouVDIABY 6m @Arsenal in rehab working hard, trying to get fit soon.





Poor fcuker.

extra gravy

darego

BeritaArsenal @BeritaArsenal 2h
Jeng Jeng -> RT @opiniondan Announcement: source just phoned. Higuain is DONE! Press conference to follow soon

anyone know these twitter accounts? supposedly opiniondan is well in there

Pepe LeFrits

opiniondan said two days ago that we've agreed a £12.5m fee for Rooney.

keano_afc

That account looks ITK.

wandatowell

keano_afc wrote: »

That account looks ITK.

I hate the ITK shi*e



Hope he's right though

DenMan

Via skysports.com

Marseille are closing on a £12million deal for Arsenal’s Gervinho, according to reports. It is said the Arsenal winger is keen on joining Marseille and talks are scheduled with his representatives and the French Club this week. Gervinho is disappointed with his limited playing time at Arsenal and wants to be playing more games before next summer’s World Cup. We will bring you any developments.

DenMan

BREAKING: Ancelotti has approved the sale
of Higuaín to Arsenal. (El Confidencial)

Marty McFly

DenMan wrote: »

BREAKING: Ancelotti has approved the sale
of Higuaín to Arsenal. (El Confidencial)

Seen that aswell but never heard of El Confidencial and it's not something im seeing all over twitter either so im assuming it's not the most of reliable sources?

Opiniondan I'd ignore.

Seems Conor Henderson is on trial at Nottingham Forest hope it goes well for him.

Also Sanchez Watt has signed a two year contract with Colchester.

DenMan

Via skysports.com

Sky Sports News reporter David Craig has also brought us an update on goalkeeper Vito Mannone’s possible move from Arsenal to Sunderland.

Sunderland and Arsenal, I understand, have agreed a fee. The player is expected to arrive on Wearside early next week to join his new team-mates.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Looks like Don Vito might be off to Sunderland too

Gringo180

DenMan wrote: »

Via skysports.com

Marseille are closing on a £12million deal for Arsenal’s Gervinho, according to reports. It is said the Arsenal winger is keen on joining Marseille and talks are scheduled with his representatives and the French Club this week. Gervinho is disappointed with his limited playing time at Arsenal and wants to be playing more games before next summer’s World Cup. We will bring you any developments.

That's a great bit of business for us :eek:

Marty McFly

Not a bad move for him I think with regular football he could prove himself to be a good goalkeeper he just not going to get the chance with us anytime soon being third in the pecking order.

bad2dabone

aye, i'm fond of Don Vito, he's a good lad, hope it goes well for him. Here's hoping we get the Higuain deal done this afternoon - my head is WRECKED with it!

No way can we sell gerv for that much. If we could, I'd believe we could get Rooney for 12.5!

bad2dabone

if we got 8mil + for gerv i'd consider it a fantastic sale.

Although he is quite good in Fifa 13.

Pepe LeFrits

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2013/6/28/higuain-good-but-not-world-class

Sums up my concerns a little. I think he could still step up a level if he came here but there are no guarantees.

Should sign Rooney too just in case :pac:

Evil_Clown

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

http://www.gunnerstown.com/arsenal/2013/6/28/higuain-good-but-not-world-class

Sums up my concerns a little. I think he could still step up a level if he came here but there are no guarantees.

Should sign Rooney too just in case :pac:

I can see where he is coming from and those stats do not look good but for example in the middle of 2012 Messi had only scored 1 goal (a penalty) in 6 full games against Italian sides.
Does that mean he would be bad in Serie A ?

If we do not go for Higuin then who do we go for? We have a larger budget but not a Cavani or Rooney budget imo. I think Higuin at 22m and 120k pw as reported with his stats represents very good value for Arsenal and I don't think we could get much better quality for that kind of money.

Pepe LeFrits

If we want to get back to the top, we have to pay less attention to value and more attention to quality. We've got a squad of good players already, padding it with more good players won't help much.

Having said that, Higuain would be a big improvement on Giroud, but we'll need to aim higher for other positions too if we're to make up the gap on the teams above us.

Between the TV deal and our new Emirates deal this summer, we're probably looking at additional £60m a year in income. That's easily enough to buy a top bracket player if we have the will.

Fuzzy_Dunlop

Think that article's a bit harsh, although it has a certain merit. Although his record in Europe isn't great, his scoring in both La Liga and for the National team is superb.

And I also disagree that there are 'plenty more' Higuain's to be had. Like who?

Marty McFly

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

If we want to get back to the top, we have to pay less attention to value and more attention to quality. We've got a squad of good players already, padding it with more good players won't help much.

Having said that, Higuain would be a big improvement on Giroud, but we'll need to aim higher for other positions too if we're to make up the gap on the teams above us.

Between the TV deal and our new Emirates deal this summer, we're probably looking at additional £60m a year in income. That's easily enough to buy a top bracket player if we have the will.

Aim higher than Higuain? Like who? He is the third highest scorer in La Liga behind Ronaldo and Messi and neither are possible targets. He represents much better value than Suarez or Cavani while undoubtedly top class players. I don't think Higuain is any less of a player and wouldn't cost us our whole transfer budget.

Also that article is a load of bollocks, remember the same thing used to be said about Ronaldo at one stage and Henry, it's a tired argument people use when they can't find anything else to pick at.

AdamD

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

Think that article's a bit harsh, although it has a certain merit. Although his record in Europe isn't great, his scoring in both La Liga and for the National team is superb.

And I also disagree that there are 'plenty more' Higuain's to be had. Like who?

That line irked me too, its simply not true. If we don't get Higuain who else is there? Nobody else at his level his getable IMO.

bad2dabone

I think if he moves to us he'll be one of the top 5 strikers in the PL, no problem.

Gringo180

bad2dabone wrote: »

I think if he moves to us he'll be one of the top 5 strikers in the PL, no problem.

He will be the best finisher that's a fact, the chap is lethal in and around the box.

Pepe LeFrits

bad2dabone wrote: »

I think if he moves to us he'll be one of the top 5 strikers in the PL, no problem.

That elusive top five finish is ours so :pac:

Higuain's a good player but he's not in the top bracket of players and if we ever want to be a force again we have to stop worrying about value so much and pay the premium required to bring in the very top level of players.

Of course you don't necessarily have to have the best striker in the league to win the league, but we need to bring top quality into the team /somewhere/.

Marty McFly

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

That elusive top five finish is ours so :pac:

Higuain's a good player but he's not in the top bracket of players and if we ever want to be a force again we have to stop worrying about value so much and pay the premium required to bring in the very top level of players.

Of course you don't necessarily have to have the best striker in the league to win the league, but we need to bring top quality into the team /somewhere/.

Ok once again who would you bring in better than Higauin? Because frankly I think your talking out of your arse, bad2dabone clearly didn't mean what you implied yet your trying to twist it.

Gringo180

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

That elusive top five finish is ours so :pac:

Higuain's a good player but he's not in the top bracket of players and if we ever want to be a force again we have to stop worrying about value so much and pay the premium required to bring in the very top level of players.

Of course you don't necessarily have to have the best striker in the league to win the league, but we need to bring top quality into the team /somewhere/.

Ah come on lad 107 goals in 187 games in La Liga and I am sure a good portion of those appearances where from off the bench, you cant get better than that unless where going to chase Messi or Ronaldo which is not going to happen.

Pepe LeFrits

Marty McFly wrote: »

Ok once again who would you bring in better than Higauin? Because frankly I think your talking out of your arse, bad2dabone clearly didn't mean what you implied yet your trying to twist it.

That was obviously a joke. Are you always so belligerent?

Rooney, Lewandowski and Cavani are all better than Higuain and could be on the move this summer.