Arsenal Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread 2013

Gringo180

TheBza wrote: »

Did it take you 3 days to come up with that one?

A poor attempt at humour, my apologies

Good to get the win in the end yesterday but we still have plenty to do to get top 4.

amiable

Arsenal being linked on twitter to Loic Remy.
Would Arsenal fans like him?

Mr Blobby

amiable wrote: »

Arsenal being linked on twitter to Loic Remy.
Would Arsenal fans like him?

I'd rather Jovetic.. But would I'd take him if there was no one else.

jonneymendoza

tayto lover wrote: »

Off topic BUT .....


Why didn't we break the bank for Juan Mata? What a player. So intelligent.

we did but could not match his 200k wage that chelsea offered

amiable

jonneymendoza wrote: »

we did but could not match his 200k wage that chelsea offered

Chelsea didn't give him a £200k per week contract

cson

amiable wrote: »

Arsenal being linked on twitter to Loic Remy.
Would Arsenal fans like him?

He'd certainly offer something different. He'd fit in with AW's penchant for playing strikers on the wing as well. I'd take him for £7-10m and less than 80k/wk wages. Fact is, he'd only be borderline starter if he were with us.

I think what we really need are players of the ilk of Suarez to take us some way towards the next level. Liverpool paid £20m for him and he's turned out to be super value for that. Its the type of buy Arsenal need to be making. Jovetic fits that bill imo.

I think we haven't adequately replaced Alex Song, potentially need a centre half partner for Koscielny as I'm unconvinced by either of the incumbents, we need to sign Sagna up to a new contract and after that its about getting rid of the Squillaci and Arshavin's of the squad and having 20 guys who can all potentially contribute.

I really liked the signing of Monreal because it added depth, quality and competition to that position. Similar situations all over the pitch would be welcomed.

greendom

blobby360 wrote: »

I'd rather Jovetic.. But would I'd take him if there was no one else.

My take on it is Remy is Europa league and jovetic champions league
- could be complete rubbish but it might work out that way

amiable

greendom wrote: »

My take on it is Remy is Europa league and jovetic champions league
- could be complete rubbish but it might work out that way

Rumours of Mario Gotze too who I do believe would be an excellent player for Arsenal

Fuzzy_Dunlop

I actually didn't realise we were on the same games played as Spurs now as well as being ahead of them. Score!

.jacksparrow.

amiable wrote: »

Rumours of Mario Gotze too who I do believe would be an excellent player for Arsenal

Why would he leave the cl semi finalists to come to arsenal?here's hoping though

amiable

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Why would he leave the cl semi finalists to come to arsenal?here's hoping though

Why did Paulo Sousa and Paul Lambert leave them after they won the competition in 1997?
Stefan Klos joined Glasgow Rangers a year later.

.jacksparrow.

amiable wrote: »

Why did Paulo Sousa and Paul Lambert leave them after they won the competition in 1997?
Stefan Klos joined Glasgow Rangers a year later.

Don't get me wrong I would love it,but I remember his interview where he basically laughed at arsenal,when asked about joining them.

amiable

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Don't get me wrong I would love it,but I remember his interview where he basically laughed at arsenal,when asked about joining them.

I remember not long before Coutinho joined Liverpool he said he wanted to stay at Inter.
Similar story with Fabio Borini. My point is footballers often have their reasons and don't say what they mean.
Sometimes clubs pull off what can be described as a right coup as other clubs aren't willing to take the risk.
I'm sorry to know another Liverpool example but not many were willing to take the risk on him at £20 million. He's easily worth double that now and every club in Europe admired him at Ajax

Fuzzy_Dunlop

.jacksparrow. wrote: »

Don't get me wrong I would love it,but I remember his interview where he basically laughed at arsenal,when asked about joining them.

Link? I've only really ever seen him say that he's happy at Dortmund etc. Which is fair enough as it's a fine club and he's settled there.

amiable

amiable wrote: »

Arsenal being linked on twitter to Loic Remy.
Would Arsenal fans like him?

I like the look of Remy myself. That goal last week was top drawer

Mr Blobby

I'm pretty sure he said the only clubs he'd go too were Barca and us.

Or something along those lines.

cson

http://thescore.thejournal.ie/21-signs-you%E2%80%99re-a-hardcore-arsenal-fan-865737-Apr2013/?utm_source=twitter_self

Agree with some of them.

The rest are just pure lazy.

Galvasean

Walcott 18 (11)
Giroud 17 (11)
Podolski 14 (10)
Cazorla 12 (12)
Gervinho 7 (5)
Arteta 6 (6)
Rosicky 3 (2)
Koscielny 3 (1)
Mr. Owen Goal 3 (3)
Chamakh 2 (0)
Mertesacker 2 (2)
Oxlade-Chamberlain 2 (1)
Wilshere 2 (0)
Arshavin 1 (0)
Gibbs 1 (0)
Miquel 1 (0)
Monreal 1 (1)
Ramsey 1 (0)
Vermaelen 1 (0)

(League goals in brackets)

Race for our top scorer is looking tight.

12gauge dave

Its hard to believe giroud has scored 17 goals:o

One thing i picked up on yesterday was our awful habit of passing it back to a man with opposition closing in on them. Could this be a contributor to our injuries?
Also just looking at MOTD2 we are the second lowest corners converted to goals in the league and thats no surprise as we are extremely wasteful. How many have we won and is there any where i could get that stat in order to establish the goals from corners to corners won ratio.

Galvasean

12gauge dave wrote: »

Its hard to believe giroud has scored 17 goals:o

Not bad for a flop is he?

Galvasean

Galvasean wrote: »

Not bad for a flop is he?

Bergkamp only scored 11 in his first full season. Granted Giroud is no Bergkamp (very few are) but he can make a huge contribution to Arsenal FC the next few seasons should he stay at the club

gnfnrhead

It's insane that he has a very good chance of breaking 20 goals and people still consider him a flop. He's going to be a big player for us if he can keep it up.

cson

Deleted User wrote: »

Bergkamp only scored 11 in his first full season. Granted Giroud is no Bergkamp (very few are) but he can make a huge contribution to Arsenal FC the next few seasons should he stay at the club

He's no battering ram either; love when he whips out the sand wedge for those little chips into the paths of Walcott/Cazorla/Jack et al from time to time.

Harry Deerpark

Deleted User wrote: »

Bergkamp only scored 11 in his first full season. Granted Giroud is no Bergkamp (very few are) but he can make a huge contribution to Arsenal FC the next few seasons should he stay at the club

Whose style of play is comparable to Bergkamp's? I can't think of anyone. I'm not saying he was the best in the world, he was just very unique, like Henry.

12gauge dave

Galvasean wrote: »

Not bad for a flop is he?

I like the guy and hes had alot of pressure on his shoulders with very big boots to fill after rvp left but hes not good enough to play as a sole striker if we want to stride for trophies lets be honest to ourselves there.

12gauge dave

Harry Deerpark wrote: »

Whose style of play is comparable to Bergkamp's? I can't think of anyone. I'm not saying he was the best in the world, he was just very unique, like Henry.

Its hard to think of someone that is similar because he was so unique but i would of loved to see him and berbatov both playing upfront together i think berbatov is a rare footballing genius maybe not to bergkamps level but the two would produce some special moments together no doubt

Harry Deerpark

Harry Deerpark wrote: »

Whose style of play is comparable to Bergkamp's? I can't think of anyone. I'm not saying he was the best in the world, he was just very unique, like Henry.

The closest in terms of style was probably that man we no longer mention also from Holland

greendom

12gauge dave wrote: »

Its hard to believe giroud has scored 17 goals:o

I don't think his assist tally is too shabby either. Now he's settled watch him take off next season (not to Bergkamp levels obviously)

EuropeanSon

12gauge dave wrote: »

I like the guy and hes had alot of pressure on his shoulders with very big boots to fill after rvp left but hes not good enough to play as a sole striker if we want to stride for trophies lets be honest to ourselves there.

I think there are enough goals in the team to get us trophies. It's consistency and solidity that we've most lacked. Obviously another attacking signing wouldn't go amiss, but considering that Walcott, Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla have 61 goals between them already (44 in the league), and each bar Walcott is in their first season, I don't think that could be called a problem area for us. Giroud is definitely good enough, if the team can find some consistency. Having another player we are willing to call a central striker would be good though, to add some competition.

Giroud's season has been better than any Arsenal striker's debut season since Henry. Some perspective is needed, I think. What more did people want?

meriwether

EuropeanSon wrote: »

I think there are enough goals in the team to get us trophies. It's consistency and solidity that we've most lacked. Obviously another attacking signing wouldn't go amiss, but considering that Walcott, Giroud, Podolski and Cazorla have 61 goals between them already (44 in the league), and each bar Walcott is in their first season, I don't think that could be called a problem area for us. Giroud is definitely good enough, if the team can find some consistency. Having another player we are willing to call a central striker would be good though, to add some competition.

Giroud's season has been better than any Arsenal striker's debut season since Henry. Some perspective is needed, I think. What more did people want?

We can use statistics to analyse Giroud any which way we want, but the long and the short of it is that he is not good enough to be first choice striker if Arsenal are serious about competing.

He is Sylvan Wiltord. We have no Henry or Bergkamp.

Corvo

meriwether wrote: »

We can use statistics to analyse Giroud any which way we want, but the long and the short of it is that he is not good enough to be first choice striker if Arsenal are serious about competing.

He is Sylvan Wiltord. We have no Henry or Bergkamp.

But...but...Wiltord was black:eek:

Sútalún

meriwether wrote: »

We can use statistics to analyse Giroud any which way we want, but the long and the short of it is that he is not good enough to be first choice striker if Arsenal are serious about competing.

He is Sylvan Wiltord. We have no Henry or Bergkamp.

To be honest I think he's definitely good enough to be first choice striker. He is no Bergkamp or Henry but no-one is. He can certainly fade in and out of games, but his goal tally and general play have been very impressive. The thing I've been most impressed with is his passion. Much like Podolski I look seeing them when they score a goal.

Galvasean

Wenger hinted on the official site that he will play Podolski at CF more often in future.

Royale with Cheese

Whatever about playing him at centre forward, I wish he'd just play him anywhere more often.

Shane St.

Anyone else worried about Everton 2mrw? They are in a good run of form. Can see it being a tricky game. Would ye start Wilshere again after him looking off the pace on Saturday?

greendom

Shane St. wrote: »

Anyone else worried about Everton 2mrw? They are in a good run of form. Can see it being a tricky game. Would ye start Wilshere again after him looking off the pace on Saturday?

No Rosicky all the way, presuming he's fit that is.

As to Podolski, I'd agree I'd like to see him more often. I think he may well start tomorrow

GeorgeBailey

greendom wrote: »

No Rosicky all the way, presuming he's fit that is.

Anybody know whether Rosicky is back for tomorrow?

Dubliner28

Shane St. wrote: »

Anyone else worried about Everton 2mrw? They are in a good run of form. Can see it being a tricky game. Would ye start Wilshere again after him looking off the pace on Saturday?

As an Everton fan i cant see us getting a win, maybe a point. Under Moyes we havent beaten Arsenal away in 10 years. We have been starting games very slowly. Cant afford to do that tomorrow. If we get ahead it will be interesting

Pierce_1991

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Anybody know whether Rosicky is back for tomorrow?

Arseblog days he's back for this one. I'd start him ahead of Jack who was very poor on Saturday. We need to ease him back in.

Harry Deerpark

Best form in the league.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html

Pierce_1991

Harry Deerpark wrote: »

Best form in the league.

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/form-guide.html

Everton in third spot though. I'm very nervous about this game tomorrow.

Galvasean

GeorgeBailey wrote: »

Anybody know whether Rosicky is back for tomorrow?

Arsenal.com says yes.

I think Wenger made a big gamble resting so many players against Norwich, but having gotten the 3 points we should have lots of fresh players who should have enough in the tank to beat Everton. Nacho, Walcott, Podolski and Rosicky can all slot right into the starting XI.
Everton had pretty much their strongest team* out against QPR on Saturday, so hopefully they'll be a bit tired and we can overwhelm them.

*Jelavic was on the bench, but his form hasn't been good so he seems to have lost his spot to Anichebe.

EuropeanSon

meriwether wrote: »

We can use statistics to analyse Giroud any which way we want, but the long and the short of it is that he is not good enough to be first choice striker if Arsenal are serious about competing.

He is Sylvan Wiltord. We have no Henry or Bergkamp.

So I have statistics and what my eyes tell me (that he's a good player, with excellent general play who has been adjusting this season and so been a little hot and cold) on one hand, and your completely unjustified (ie. you haven't said why at all) opinion on the other. I know which one seems more reliable, tbh.

AdamD

5 of our last 6 games are in London, should be somewhat helpful.

hsbc

Is Ox due a start or is he more suited to an impact role off the bench?

greendom

hsbc wrote: »

Is Ox due a start or is he more suited to an impact role off the bench?

Bench for now, I would think

GeorgeBailey

EuropeanSon wrote: »

So I have statistics and what my eyes tell me (that he's a good player, with excellent general play who has been adjusting this season and so been a little hot and cold) on one hand, and your completely unjustified (ie. you haven't said why at all) opinion on the other. I know which one seems more reliable, tbh.

I can't speak for meriwether but I'd agree that I don't believe Giroud is of the quality Arsenal need to be fighting for champions league/league. I'm going based on what my eyes tell me also in that he's a decent player but not of the level of someone like van Persie. I know it's his first season but he strikes me as someone lacking that world class quality needed. Would be more than happy to be proven wrong.

meriwether

EuropeanSon wrote: »

So I have statistics and what my eyes tell me (that he's a good player, with excellent general play who has been adjusting this season and so been a little hot and cold) on one hand, and your completely unjustified (ie. you haven't said why at all) opinion on the other. I know which one seems more reliable, tbh.

You have stats, but you don't have meaningful stats or don't have them in the correct context.

For instance, your stat that his debut season is the best since Henry's is all sorts of meh. What does it mean? RVP had a slow season when he joined, but was 21, and we had Henry at full strength. RVP then developed
Am I supposed to believe that Giroud is better than RVP? Or Adebayor? Because he isn't.

He's better than Chamakh, but so what?

He's not good enough to lead the Arsenal line as first choice striker. There is no stat thaat can prove he is good enough to do this, because no stat exists that will, apart from misconstrued stats.