Kerry County Council approve drink driving motion.

raymon

You couldn't make this one up . Danny Healy Rae and Kerry County Council have passed a motion proposing permits which allow "rural" people to drink and drive.

I'm sure the Healy Rae family pub business didn't cloud his judgement at all .

http://www.newstalk.ie/Kerry-Councillors-call-for-permits-to-allow-rural-drink-driving

Cookie_Monster

honestly that's all that comes to mind. How they can possibly think this is a good idea is beyond me!

How do you even judge it or what constitues a quiet / not quiet road and ensure they drive slowly. It really is bottom of the barrel stuff.

dpofloinn

Only in Kerry

Fromthetrees

Gombeen stunt pulled by gombeen politicians to help them get reelected.

Will they be calling for independence next?

StompToWork

Now, hang on a minute here. Not everyone who goes to a pub is going to get pie-eyed. There are a number of individuals who still see the pub as a social outing, rather than a drinking emporium. There are folks around here who live 5-10 miles from the nearest pub, which is in the middle of no-where. They go, they have their couple of pints (and I literally mean 2), and their car is the only way home. The current drink drive limit is making an already challenging rural existence even harder, by ensuring that these people are breaking the law by driving after a few pints. If they were ever caught, then they are off the road, and their lives then become really hard.

This 'aint black and white. There are many factors at play here, other that the cynical views that have been expressed above. Yes, on the surface of it, it seems reckless and sensationalist, but there is a real reason for this.

dpofloinn

But it is black and white can a person not go to a pub and have a soft drink when socializing? can people not car share in a rotation with a designated driver?can a pub not organize a mini bus?.Its one law for all or no law at all

raymon

StompToWork wrote: »

Now, hang on a minute here. Not everyone who goes to a pub is going to get pie-eyed. There are a number of individuals who still see the pub as a social outing, rather than a drinking emporium. There are folks around here who live 5-10 miles from the nearest pub, which is in the middle of no-where. They go, they have their couple of pints (and I literally mean 2), and their car is the only way home. The current drink drive limit is making an already challenging rural existence even harder, by ensuring that these people are breaking the law by driving after a few pints. If they were ever caught, then they are off the road, and their lives then become really hard.

This 'aint black and white. There are many factors at play here, other that the cynical views that have been expressed above. Yes, on the surface of it, it seems reckless and sensationalist, but there is a real reason for this.

Driving " after a few pints" kills more people than driving after no pints.

Cookie_Monster

StompToWork wrote: »

Now, hang on a minute here. Not everyone who goes to a pub is going to get pie-eyed. There are a number of individuals who still see the pub as a social outing, rather than a drinking emporium. There are folks around here who live 5-10 miles from the nearest pub, which is in the middle of no-where. They go, they have their couple of pints (and I literally mean 2), and their car is the only way home. The current drink drive limit is making an already challenging rural existence even harder, by ensuring that these people are breaking the law by driving after a few pints. If they were ever caught, then they are off the road, and their lives then become really hard.

so go to the pub have 2 pints over 3-4 hours while socialising, you'll still be fine after that anyway, and this isn't the type of person they're targeting.

MadsL

Hey, I live in a rural part of the city with no bars within walking distance. You know what I get for DUI in my town? Guess what having a couple of pints isn't a option. Either drink at home or don't drink at the pub.

6 months to 1 year license revocation (1 year if under 21)
Up to 90 days jail.
Mandatory: DWI school, alcohol evaluation, ignition interlock for 1 year, community service.
Other: treatment

2st Offense
MISDEMEANOR
2-year license revocation.
Up to 364 days jail, 96 hours mandatory.
Up to $1,000 fine, $500 mandatory
Other mandatory penalties: alcohol evaluation, community service, treatment, ignition interlock for 2 years.
Other: Up to 5 years probation.

3rd Offense
MISDEMEANOR
3-year license revocation.
Up to 364 days jail, mandatory 30 days.
Up to $1,000 fine, $750 mandatory .
Other mandatory penalties: alcohol evaluation, community service, treatment, ignition interlock for 3 years.
Other: Up to 5 years probation.

4th Offense
FELONY 4th DEGREE
Lifetime license revocation with 5-year court review.
Up to 18 months prison, 6 months mandatory.
Up to $5,000 fine.
Other mandatory penalties: alcohol evaluation, treatment, lifetime ignition interlock with 5-year court review.

But then it seems you can get away with, literally, murder in Kerry.http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/drunk-driver-wont-face-trial-over-death-of-fireman-garda-1981621.html

Black Swan

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