Tri Laois Sprint April 6th 2013

elvis jones

gerfmurphy wrote: »

is there any warm up allowed in the pool?

You might get in a length or half and back, it all depends on how time is. The pool is hired for X time so we need to get in and get out.

A good tip is to bring more than one hat and have different colours as it makes life easier for the counters at the end of the lane who will tip you on the head when you have 2 lengths left.

griffin100

gerfmurphy wrote: »

is there any warm up allowed in the pool?

Generally you get time to do a couple of lengths but ad Elvis says it can be very limited.

Mr Tango

Assume fast swimmers are out in the last wave?

Also - anyone know the story with tumble turns. I see TI banned them in pool swims recently. As usual - disadvantage the fast swimmers. This is akin to making someone running an out and back course with 29 turns round a cone to walk round the cone each time - just to make sure no one slips and hurts themselves!!!

elvis jones

Mr Tango wrote: »

Assume fast swimmers are out in the last wave?

Also - anyone know the story with tumble turns. I see TI banned them in pool swims recently. As usual - disadvantage the fast swimmers. This is akin to making someone running an out and back course with 29 turns round a cone to walk round the cone each time - just to make sure no one slips and hurts themselves!!!

Ya fastest projected swimmers in the last wave and no tumble turns.

Mr Tango

Any good reason for no tumble turns?

What if all in the lane agree to do them?

elvis jones

Mr Tango wrote: »

Any good reason for no tumble turns?

What if all in the lane agree to do them?

Counters and those running the swim need to be able to talk and engage with the swimmers, for instance to tap you on the head for your last 2 lengths. How do they do that of you're using tumble turns ? Or if you're holding up other swimmers behind you and they need to make you aware of it ?

You won't be allowed to them, that i can tell you and it will be said in the race briefing.

Mr Tango

I can count and wont be holding anyone up

Not your fault I know - but it is a ridiculous call on TI's part.

Id better start training without tumble turns for a week so I don't inadvertently do one!!!

griffin100

Mr Tango wrote: »

I can count and wont be holding anyone up

Not your fault I know - but it is a ridiculous call on TI's part.

Id better start training without tumble turns for a week so I don't inadvertently do one!!!

Think you'd feel better over here Darren

Mr Tango

Very good!

Its okay - I am going to look for the positives.

Work the walls and keep the streamline a bit longer as you will have more air in the lungs than if you did a tumble!!!

trixsyme

Hi, have any of you tried out the run route or the bike route - if so, how's it looking?

Deedsie

We won't feel it now. I'm in the first wave with the slower swimmers. I did the 30 lengths in 17 minutes last week, does that sound about right for wave 1? If I was a bit quicker than some of the others would I look like a right **** head overtaking people? Like if someone is quicker than me, I'd rather get out of the way!

gerfmurphy

Im in wave 4, my time is 15min for the 750. it will be fine to overtake it s a race after all.
can anyone tell me if it is possible to have a friend register for me if i pass him on my ti card.
save me a bit of pressure the morning of the race, he could do it on the Friday night.

griffin100

Deedsie wrote: »

We won't feel it now. I'm in the first wave with the slower swimmers. I did the 30 lengths in 17 minutes last week, does that sound about right for wave 1? If I was a bit quicker than some of the others would I look like a right **** head overtaking people? Like if someone is quicker than me, I'd rather get out of the way!

Have a chat with the guys in your lane beforehand. If they are all predicting slow times (i.e. >20mins) then tell a marshall and they will transfer you to a faster lane if one is available. The swim marshals in this tri are always very good. and in the past I've moved between lanes prior to the start.

widespread

I'm in wave 5 and my time at reg was 16 mins. I think they used your run time aswell to allocate lanes.

keatm1

Anyone know if there is a bag check or lockers available in the centre? Kinda wondering where to put keys etc..

mattym

Deedsie wrote: »

We won't feel it now. I'm in the first wave with the slower swimmers. I did the 30 lengths in 17 minutes last week, does that sound about right for wave 1? If I was a bit quicker than some of the others would I look like a right **** head overtaking people? Like if someone is quicker than me, I'd rather get out of the way!

I am looking at a 24 mins for the swim but in wave 2 so i presume they are taking the run time into account as well. I expected to be in wave 1. Am a complete bag of nerves already, dreading the swim, happy man when i am on the bike...

griffin100

keatm1 wrote: »

Anyone know if there is a bag check or lockers available in the centre? Kinda wondering where to put keys etc..

There are lockers in the leisure ctr........but then were do you put the locker key????? it's the type that you can wear on your wrist.

Oryx

griffin100 wrote: »

There are lockers in the leisure ctr........but then were do you put the locker key????? it's the type that you can wear on your wrist.

Leave it in transition.

Deedsie

What kinda times are you all getting on the new bike route? I was out on it today, took me 49 minutes. Is that slow or middling? I know it's far from fast anyway. It's exactly bang on 21.5 km

griffin100

Deedsie wrote: »

What kinda times are you all getting on the new bike route? I was out on it today, took me 49 minutes. Is that slow or middling? I know it's far from fast anyway. It's exactly bang on 21.5 km

Whats the road surface like and is it hilly?

Deedsie

griffin100 wrote: »

Whats the road surface like and is it hilly?

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/292731217

Road surface seems ok to me, few bumps here and there... The surface does smooth out a lot as you come back close to Portlaoise.

My cycling times have slowed down in the last month. I don't think I'm eating enough maybe! I was very sluggish on the bike yesterday.

elvis jones

The surface is ok, its back roads mainly and i think its downhill for the last few k. The run is hilly for the 1st 2kish but then its flat enough with a downhill finish.

elvis jones

6 degrees, no wind and clear blue skies............well thats Friday:D

Just to let you know that from the wind this week it will be in face on the way out on the cycle.

You can register tonight in the leisure centre in Portlaoise from 19:00 to 21:0. If you can do it i'd advise it as registration in the morning will be limited and if you're doing your first race you can see the lay out !

I'll be on site this evening from 17:15 and in the morning from 06:00 so pop over and say hello, i'll be the loud one on the mic:cool:

gerfmurphy

elvis jones wrote: »

6 degrees, no wind and clear blue skies............well thats Friday:D

Just to let you know that from the wind this week it will be in face on the way out on the cycle.

You can register tonight in the leisure centre in Portlaoise from 19:00 to 21:0. If you can do it i'd advise it as registration in the morning will be limited and if you're doing your first race you can see the lay out !

I'll be on site this evening from 17:15 and in the morning from 06:00 so pop over and say hello, i'll be the loud one on the mic:cool:

Can you confirm what time registration closes in the morning.
The website and this forum says 8.30 the race brief says 8.00

elvis jones

gerfmurphy wrote: »

Can you confirm what time registration closes in the morning.
The website and this forum says 8.30 the race brief says 8.00

If you read back what i posted was a rough guide as the briefing hadn't be released. Its 8am as the junior race starts at 8:30 and senior race briefing is at 8:30 as well.

Sorry for any confusion but i was just giving an idea of the morning:)

Deedsie

elvis jones wrote: »

If you read back what i posted was a rough guide as the briefing hadn't be released. Its 8am as the junior race starts at 8:30 and senior race briefing is at 8:30 as well.

Sorry for any confusion but i was just giving an idea of the morning:)

What time would you recommend people to arrive in the morning to set up? Ill be registered this evening! Swimming in wave 1 lane 4... In the pool for 09:00...

Bricking myself now!

elvis jones

I'd advise getting there early as you'll have to get into transition and set up. They'll be a bike check before you get into transition and this can lead to a long que. Get in, set up and go have a coffee or something. Oh and those who are there early get the best place on the racks in transition.

Remember you'll need to be there for race briefing at 8:30 !

elvis jones

Deedsie wrote: »

What time would you recommend people to arrive in the morning to set up? Ill be registered this evening! Swimming in wave 1 lane 4... In the pool for 09:00...

Bricking myself now!

Been there i did my 1st race in Portlaoise 2 years ago, just smile and enjoy it !

Deedsie

elvis jones wrote: »

Been there i did my 1st race in Portlaoise 2 years ago, just smile and enjoy it !

Ah I'm hoping once I get started ill be fine. The old belly rumblings are starting now. Dunno what to eat today, was thinking of a big dinner at 12:30 today and then snacks as the day goes on. Not a clue what to eat tomorrow morning either

Oryx

Deedsie wrote: »

Not a clue what to eat tomorrow morning either

Your normal breakfast

Deedsie

Oryx wrote: »

Your normal breakfast

I don't normally have breakfast until break time! I'm thinking a bowl of Cheerios a banana and a glass of Orange juice at seven. Have energy gels I might have just after the race brief

griffin100

Don't leave it too late to get there as there may be difficulties getting parking.

Eat as normal today. Don't eat a huge meal late tonight though.

Don't drink coffee too close to the start or otherwise you might have tummy issues on the bike or run (unless you're use to drinking coffee - I'm not )

Don't go too mad on the gels, this is only a short race. If you think you need a boost have one 20 mins before swim and maybe one at the start of the bike.

Relax and enjoy - this is a great beginners race.

elvis jones

Deedsie wrote: »

I don't normally have breakfast until break time! I'm thinking a bowl of Cheerios a banana and a glass of Orange juice at seven. Have energy gels I might have just after the race brief

Unless you've used gels before i wouldn't bother with them, there's enough energy stored in your muscles for over 2 hrs of exercise so you have enough there without having them.

ray o

elvis jones wrote: »

Unless you've used gels before i wouldn't bother with them, there's enough energy stored in your muscles for over 2 hrs of exercise so you have enough there without having them.

+1 on that. If you don't normally take gels then don't risk it in a race. They could leave you with stomach cramps on the run. As Elvis said, your body has enough energy so little need to supplement for a sprint distance race.

Fazz

elvis jones wrote: »

Unless you've used gels before i wouldn't bother with them, there's enough energy stored in your muscles for over 2 hrs of exercise so you have enough there without having them.

Ahem....

Enough energy stored in muscles for over 2 hours of exercise???

Ah... ok I see.
You said exercise... not Racing...

Agree with most - for a sprint a gel before swim is prob most needed.
However if pushing to 1hr:30mins and above, then Gel's/Drinks are needed imo to have any hope of sustaining intensity.

elvis jones

Fazz wrote: »

Ahem....

Enough energy stored in muscles for over 2 hours of exercise???

Ah... ok I see.
You said exercise... not Racing...

Agree with most - for a sprint a gel before swim is prob most needed.
However if pushing to 1hr:30mins and above, then Gel's/Drinks are needed imo to have any hope of sustaining intensity.

Agreed but for me its wine gums and not gels:D

fibix

Hey there, does anybody know when I can get race belt before tomorrow? Thanks!

elvis jones

fibix wrote: »

Hey there, does anybody know when I can get race belt before tomorrow? Thanks!

A local shop in Portlaoise Race Right Cycles will be on site in the morning with belts, bike stuff, gels, drinks etc

elvis jones

I think they'll also be a few students giving rub downs afterwards as well !

griffin100

elvis jones wrote: »

A local shop in Portlaoise Race Right Cycles will be on site in the morning with belts, bike stuff, gels, drinks etc

Does that mean the Wheelworx passion wagon will not be given pride of place outside the front door of the leisure ctr?

elvis jones

griffin100 wrote: »

Does that mean the Wheelworx passion wagon will not be given pride of place outside the front door of the leisure ctr?

Might be place for the wagon but not the ego;)

Deedsie

First Tri done... 1:40

Delighted with that. Thanks for all the replies on the thread, they helped settle the nerves big time. Great day, great organization... Great MC on the microphone... :-)

Thanks lads

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

Our very own Tango finished 2nd today, would have won only he stopped for a picnic on the run!

griffin100

Another really well run race by Trilogy. Now if you could just get rid of the mini marathons in and out of transition I even managed to get a bit of sunburn despite the cold. Water and cake at the finish very appreciated.

elvis jones

I promised sunburn...........:cool:

Really enjoyed today the race went really well. We have a crew involved in the club and the smooth running is a credit to them !

I hope all enjoyed it and that if it was your 1st that it won't be your last !

dited

Great race today. Kudos to Trilogy and all involved; they even managed to sort out the weather! Great organisation and marshalling, the marshalls were still enthusiastically shouting encouragement by the time I came around, probably about three hours after the first competitors!

Kids race seemed to go off really well too, dited jnr was delighted after his race. The support the kids got as they came past the front of the centre was great to see; you could see how much it meant to them. Or maybe they were just glad to see the finish line

couerdelion

Nice day out and happy enough considering it was a last minute decision to race.

I was in Wave 7 and there was a bit of hanging around before hand as there is at all pool based Tri's.
Jumped in the pool for the warm-up and lost my timing chip. Reattached and then we got going. I was second in the lane and kept that going all the way through. Got a nice draft off the lad leading out the lane and I'm pretty sure he must have been fed up with getting his feet touched - I wasn't looking to pass though - lost my hat on one length and swam back with it in my hand to hand to the people marking off the lane so they could make a note and not make me do any extra lengths. Finished and jumped out and then got held back as my chip had chip had come off again and one of the helpers reattached it again.

Slow enough T1 as I didn't bother attaching shoes to pedals and instead sat down and changed them. Ran out of T1 and then dropped my chain as I jumped on. Minor delay and off I went. Was a bumpy enough route and a bit draggy in places but I just hit it as hard as I could - half way round I noticed I had no chip on my ankle - sure if it couldn't stay on in the pool what chance did it have... Continued picking out the cyclists in front and closing them down one by one and felt good, after about 14km I got a call off one of the marshalls letting em know that I was in about 7th place in the wave. Put a bit of a surge in from then till the finish and picked off another 3. No chip time but the Garmin has me at 34.00 from mount line to dismount line. Long enough run into and out of transition though.

Into T2 and sat down again to get runners on. Out just behind the Pulse lad who led the swim out and tried to stick with him. Got over taken on the run by another Pulse guy, Vanessa Fenton, a Piranha bloke and a 3D'er which I was happy with - normally much more overtaking me.

Finshed in1:19 which I thought was pretty poor but now the results are out I'm fairly happy with. 15th overall and 2nd Vet.

Edit: Kudos to Trilogy for putting on a great race. Plenty of marshalls all giving great support and plenty of abuse from the MC/DJ.

BTH

The black and orange came and the black and orange conquered. Great day out in Portlaoise for 3D.

griffin100

couerdelion wrote: »

Nice day out and happy enough considering it was a last minute decision to race.

I was in Wave 7 and there was a bit of hanging around before hand as there is at all pool based Tri's.
Jumped in the pool for the warm-up and lost my timing chip. Reattached and then we got going. I was second in the lane and kept that going all the way through. Got a nice draft off the lad leading out the lane and I'm pretty sure he must have been fed up with getting his feet touched - I wasn't looking to pass though - lost my hat on one length and swam back with it in my hand to hand to the people marking off the lane so they could make a note and not make me do any extra lengths. Finished and jumped out and then got held back as my chip had chip had come off again and one of the helpers reattached it again.

Slow enough T1 as I didn't bother attaching shoes to pedals and instead sat down and changed them. Ran out of T1 and then dropped my chain as I jumped on. Minor delay and off I went. Was a bumpy enough route and a bit draggy in places but I just hit it as hard as I could - half way round I noticed I had no chip on my ankle - sure if it couldn't stay on in the pool what chance did it have... Continued picking out the cyclists in front and closing them down one by one and felt good, after about 14km I got a call off one of the marshalls letting em know that I was in about 7th place in the wave. Put a bit of a surge in from then till the finish and picked off another 3. No chip time but the Garmin has me at 34.00 from mount line to dismount line. Long enough run into and out of transition though.

Into T2 and sat down again to get runners on. Out just behind the Pulse lad who led the swim out and tried to stick with him. Got over taken on the run by another Pulse guy, Vanessa Fenton, a Piranha bloke and a 3D'er which I was happy with - normally much more overtaking me.

Finshed in1:19 which I thought was pretty poor but now the results are out I'm fairly happy with. 15th overall and 2nd Vet.

Edit: Kudos to Trilogy for putting on a great race. Plenty of marshalls all giving great support and plenty of abuse from the MC/DJ.

Where did you get the age results breakdown?

darragh_k

My first tri as well... just wanted to say thanks.. very well run event!